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The Office: Season Finale TONIGHT 8PM EST
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distantmantra
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What a great episode last night, I hadn't laughed out loud so much at a TV show in ages. No way Ryan's gone completely, though, seeing how he's one of the head writers.
So, will Jan be a live-in girlfriend for Michael, get a job at the Scranton office, or will she get some other job and appear randomly like past seasons?
So, will Jan be a live-in girlfriend for Michael, get a job at the Scranton office, or will she get some other job and appear randomly like past seasons?
Eel O'Brian
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Maybe B.J. Novak wants to decrease his screen time a little to ease the amount of work he'll be having to perform as a writer for those extra episodes next season.
EDIT: Ha, beaten to the punch
EDIT: Ha, beaten to the punch
distantmantra
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Zilch said:
That would be a shame if it turns out to be true. A lot of my favorite moments involve Ryan.
Good episode, but the directing and camera work is all over the place and retarded.
Like when Jan and michael were talking "privately" there's a camera creeping to get a peek at the conversation, and them BAM another camera inside the office right in front of them. Then cut back to the peeking camera.
And the whole "private interview" in between a scene is done really really bad. Makes it seem like they're pulled out in the middle of the conversation for a quick "interview" then thrown back into the drama driven scene. Kills the moment every single time.
Like when Jan and michael were talking "privately" there's a camera creeping to get a peek at the conversation, and them BAM another camera inside the office right in front of them. Then cut back to the peeking camera.
And the whole "private interview" in between a scene is done really really bad. Makes it seem like they're pulled out in the middle of the conversation for a quick "interview" then thrown back into the drama driven scene. Kills the moment every single time.
Prince of Space
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They've still got to have him cameo next season, and I'm sure they will. Ryan as Michael's boss is such an obvious goldmine.Zilch said:
I'd say BJ is sticking around, but yeah: likely in a less visible fashion.
The real question is: will B.J. get bumped from the main credits? And will anyone get bumped up in his place?
I think that the episode had a lot of cool elements, but through issues with pacing and writing it just didn't come across...
That being said, glistenm, I don't agree with this. Personally, I care not about the entire "documentary setting". I've stopped caring about it long ago: it's there where it wants to be, and not there where it doesn't work. It allows for some cool stuff (My personal favourite: the cameraman pointing out to Pam that Dwight is eating Angela's 2nd chocolate bar) and then leaves where it would basically ruin the show.
Personally, the "talking heads" (The interviews) are what makes the show effective, especially in its more dramatic scenes. They provide a glimpse into a character's psyche (Always after the fact, in retrospect, or from a previous conversation) much as a documentary would. It allows for the actual drama scenes themselves to be subtle, low on dialogue and focused more on other elements, while the talking heads do the, well talking.
My problem with the episode, rather than these elements, was that I felt it was too long. I think a normal supersized episode would have been better, as there was some parts of the episode that weren't expressly necessary (Michael's opening scene at Corporate, for instance, wasn't all that funny and his cockiness had already been well documented). I felt it was stretching for an hour, and as a result some of its more important elements (Jim/Pam in particular) kind of got lost, impact wise.
I'm also baffled at people who prefer this to Casino Night...does anything have a reason (outside of the boobs)?
The real question is: will B.J. get bumped from the main credits? And will anyone get bumped up in his place?
I think that the episode had a lot of cool elements, but through issues with pacing and writing it just didn't come across...
That being said, glistenm, I don't agree with this. Personally, I care not about the entire "documentary setting". I've stopped caring about it long ago: it's there where it wants to be, and not there where it doesn't work. It allows for some cool stuff (My personal favourite: the cameraman pointing out to Pam that Dwight is eating Angela's 2nd chocolate bar) and then leaves where it would basically ruin the show.
Personally, the "talking heads" (The interviews) are what makes the show effective, especially in its more dramatic scenes. They provide a glimpse into a character's psyche (Always after the fact, in retrospect, or from a previous conversation) much as a documentary would. It allows for the actual drama scenes themselves to be subtle, low on dialogue and focused more on other elements, while the talking heads do the, well talking.
My problem with the episode, rather than these elements, was that I felt it was too long. I think a normal supersized episode would have been better, as there was some parts of the episode that weren't expressly necessary (Michael's opening scene at Corporate, for instance, wasn't all that funny and his cockiness had already been well documented). I felt it was stretching for an hour, and as a result some of its more important elements (Jim/Pam in particular) kind of got lost, impact wise.
I'm also baffled at people who prefer this to Casino Night...does anything have a reason (outside of the boobs)?
velvet_nitemare
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Gold:lolchubigans said:Someone at the Home Theater Forum posted this...the best Office gif ever.
:lol :lol
CajoleJuice
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Just watched the episode. Best one in a long, long time. Creed stole the show, but I was laughing throughout, until I almost teared up at the end. Christ, Pam is so damn cute.
And that gif is pure awesome.
And that gif is pure awesome.
I love Michael's reactions to Jan.. Imo he's at his best when he is reacting to people and more subtle... like when Jan first walked in and he's like "why...... why are you here" his little one word pause followed by the rest of the sentence was awesome he did it like 4 or 5 times I was dying.
http://stage6.divx.com/HalfBellicoSE/video/1224919/Episode-43---The-Return
This is Michael at his best
http://stage6.divx.com/HalfBellicoSE/video/1224919/Episode-43---The-Return
This is Michael at his best
Not saying I necessarily agree - I don't really care to compare the two - but I'd say that position is probably due to the amount of unbridled joy that permeates the second half of this episode. You've got happy and honest Pam and you've got Jim asking her out. While there are obvious questions about where that may go, the episode doesn't touch it, while Casino Night ended on a really bittersweet question.Memles said:
Prince of Space
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I also thought this episode had better writing, pretty good pacing, and was just outright funny the whole way through. Everything with Jan, Dwight's short-lived reign, and Jim finally getting a date with Pam (even though I'd personally prefer they not actually hook up until the show ends; they work better as friends/partners-in-crime, IMO), made this episode a more enjoyable finale.
I hope next season is the final season. Finding out if Pam and Jim work out is like 95% of why I watch the show. The pull so far has been the sexual tension between them, but that's going to be gone now that they're actually dating. And I don't think I'm interested it getting weekly updates on their courtship for the next 5 years. I hope they figure out next season if they are going to work out or not.
Stoney Mason
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alr1ghtstart said:
Well played sir.
That was one of the best episodes of any show in a long time...had some of the best lines maybe ever...
Andy: Whats up, Big Haircut? You are no longer Big Tuna. From henceforth, you shall be known as Big Haircut.
Jim: So I was wondering if Karen and I could get off a few hours early, cause we want to spend the night in the city.
Michael: Why, so you could do it?
Jim: Whoops.
Meredith: You know what? Dont even worry about it. Everyone was so drunk, I bet no one even remembers what you said.
Creed: I remember. I blogged the whole thing.
Creed: www.creedthoughts.gov.www\creedthoughts. Check it out.
Creed: I find it offensive. Au naturelle, baby. Thats how I like em. Swing low, sweet chariots.
Michael: That would be shallow. And this is the opposite of shallow. This is emotionally magnificent.
Dwight: When you have done something good, you will receive one Schrute buck. One thousand Schrute bucks equals an extra five minutes for lunch.
Kelly: Who was that?
Ryan: Nobody. You and I are done.
Kelly: What?!
Andy: Whats up, Big Haircut? You are no longer Big Tuna. From henceforth, you shall be known as Big Haircut.
Jim: So I was wondering if Karen and I could get off a few hours early, cause we want to spend the night in the city.
Michael: Why, so you could do it?
Jim: Whoops.
Meredith: You know what? Dont even worry about it. Everyone was so drunk, I bet no one even remembers what you said.
Creed: I remember. I blogged the whole thing.
Creed: www.creedthoughts.gov.www\creedthoughts. Check it out.
Creed: I find it offensive. Au naturelle, baby. Thats how I like em. Swing low, sweet chariots.
Michael: That would be shallow. And this is the opposite of shallow. This is emotionally magnificent.
Dwight: When you have done something good, you will receive one Schrute buck. One thousand Schrute bucks equals an extra five minutes for lunch.
Kelly: Who was that?
Ryan: Nobody. You and I are done.
Kelly: What?!
Ford Prefect
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Did anybody notice how during the Jim's interview, the corporate guy referred to a Toby-like HR character whom he hated? :lol :lol :lol
He even a gave a Michael-esque "ugh."
He even a gave a Michael-esque "ugh."
CajoleJuice
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And I thought I was the only one that found that hilarious.AniHawk said:
You meant this one right:
ToiletofSadness
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sp0rsk said:
Stoney Mason
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Well there is your confirmation. I thought it was pretty clear from the episode last night but anyway.
blame space
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sp0rsk said:
:lol :lol This man is on crack.
Jumping in late here since I finally got a chance to watch it but concur with the praise in the thread; it was a great ep. and the best season-ender so far; really redeemed a lot of the story deficiencies that came up midseason and the complaints I had.
-Ryan out of the office. Like I said months ago, this has been a long time coming. Will be very, very interesting to see how he interacts with Michael but I think he will be a much better character in that role than the whiny role he had before. Giving him the job actually makes a lot of sense.
-Karen. Wow. Super-screwed. Even as part of Team Pam I felt bad for her both losing Jim and not getting the job. What I really liked was that they made her much more like her old self from the first few eps. of the season (i.e., not "Pam 2"). She is a much better character like this. I don't know what they're going to do with her but the Jim crush hopefully being over should really help.
-Jim-Pam. I don't think having Dawn and Tim hook up in the British series would have worked at all because it had a much darker tone (especially in the second series) that would have been killed but I think Jim and Pam being together has great comedic potential, and fits right into the American series' comedy focus.
Everything, every character, was just on this episode. Makes it really unfortunate we have to wait but now I'm really looking forward to the DVDs (S2 is my most-watched DVD series by far).
I hope that the first time we see Michael's office next season it's still black.
-Ryan out of the office. Like I said months ago, this has been a long time coming. Will be very, very interesting to see how he interacts with Michael but I think he will be a much better character in that role than the whiny role he had before. Giving him the job actually makes a lot of sense.
-Karen. Wow. Super-screwed. Even as part of Team Pam I felt bad for her both losing Jim and not getting the job. What I really liked was that they made her much more like her old self from the first few eps. of the season (i.e., not "Pam 2"). She is a much better character like this. I don't know what they're going to do with her but the Jim crush hopefully being over should really help.
-Jim-Pam. I don't think having Dawn and Tim hook up in the British series would have worked at all because it had a much darker tone (especially in the second series) that would have been killed but I think Jim and Pam being together has great comedic potential, and fits right into the American series' comedy focus.
Everything, every character, was just on this episode. Makes it really unfortunate we have to wait but now I'm really looking forward to the DVDs (S2 is my most-watched DVD series by far).
I hope that the first time we see Michael's office next season it's still black.
September seems so far away. For both the new season and the DVD's which promise to rock hard. Damn.
Hopefully they'll air a "newpeat" every week and give us something to chew on while we wait. I dunno how, but this show has become my most favorite show ever. My favorite Dramedy too.
Hopefully they'll air a "newpeat" every week and give us something to chew on while we wait. I dunno how, but this show has become my most favorite show ever. My favorite Dramedy too.
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