Yes. Why on earth wouldn't you be able to?Dax01 said:So it's been confirmed that you can play Firefight solo?
Yes. Why on earth wouldn't you be able to?Dax01 said:So it's been confirmed that you can play Firefight solo?
I don't know, for some reason people in the other thread were talking about Firefight like you wouldn't be able to go in solo.GhaleonEB said:Yes. Why on earth wouldn't you be able to?
It was just how I see things, and from that post I thought you had switched values on me (campaign not being the single most important thing). Just making sure you hadn't.GhaleonEB said:Where did I say it wasn't?
I agree with your logic. I've always thought to myself that Halo 1 and Halo 2 were easily worth more than initial MSRPs and the cost of Live. I'm just not too sure about ODST and Firefight. I feel that it'll just be Halo 3: Redux. I hope I'll be pleasantly surprised on 9/22 as I'm buying it anyway because I will give Bungie the benefit of the doubt.GhaleonEB said:I evaluate games in part on how much time I'll spend on it. It's why I don't get too deep into the arguments over $10 map packs. I've spend dozens of hours playing $10 worth of content. And I'll spend dozens of hours in Firefight. Mostly solo, partly with friends, partly with my kid.
I'll also play through the campaign several times, which is likely 30-40 hours of time for me. And that's before we get into the new MP maps.
Would like like hoppers in Firefight? Fuck yes. I think it's a tremendous mistake not to add them in. I understand the reasons why. But it puts Bungie behind the curve, when they are usually ahead of it.
I'd still pay $60 for Firefight, because matchmaking or no I'll be playing the piss out of the game mode. Halo's sandbox is a fun one to romp in.
And where did I say it was?Dax01 said:It was just how I see things, and from that post I thought you had switched values on me (campaign not being the single most important thing). Just making sure you hadn't.
Louis Wu said:Halo 3: ODST will have:
- A 6-level campaign - Bungie says it's shorter than Halo 3's, but not by a lot, any more. First non-Bungie estimate seems to be 8-10 hours (compared to 10-15 for the same level of player for Halo 3).
Neverender said:Does the 'limited' edition come with more than a controller? A different case? Or is it just the regular game with a controller packed in? I've got the limited pre-ordered because I need a new controller and it works out cheaper this way, just curious though.
That's what I meant to say. I thought, from that post, you were looking to Firefight more than the campaign now.GhaleonEB said:And where did I say it was?
Until I've played them both, I can't say. Though, I'm looking forward the campaign the most right now, I suspect I'll spend more time in Firefight.
urk said:Just the pad. It's nice though. Same color palette as the Halo 3 Limited Edition Xbox 360, but the artwork is nice and subtle. Some folks are saying the d-pad is a bit better, but I don't do a lot of d-padding, so the comparison is lost on me.
Blueblur1 said:urk, are you aware of any plans to incorporate the new Mythic maps into matchmaking by 9/22? I want to be able to put the Mythic disc into my 360 and try out the maps in MM on launch day.
urk said:Yeah, Shishka could probably speak a bit better to the plans, but I believe there will be a couple of lists loaded up for those rocking all 24 maps. Don't quote me. It's my first day. I check with some people who know stuff and make sure we detail that all out soon.
urk said:Yeah, Shishka could probably speak a bit better to the plans, but I believe there will be a couple of lists loaded up for those rocking all 24 maps. Don't quote me. It's my first day. I check with some people who know stuff and make sure we detail that all out soon.
urk said:Yeah, Shishka could probably speak a bit better to the plans, but I believe there will be a couple of lists loaded up for those rocking all 24 maps. Don't quote me. It's my first day. I check with some people who know stuff and make sure we detail that all out soon.
what the hell? xDBuckethead said:I know how desperately you crave an avatar quote to help stimulate yourself sexually, but I will not indulge you. Oh no, I will not. :lol
Are you allowed to talk about how will campaign coop work? Alot of scenes are only supposed to have 1 or 2 ODSTs storywise, will the other coop players be just no name ODSTs? Clones?urk said:Some players will choose to whip through the game on easy, others will spend untold hours exploring every last square inch of the hubworld, and sure, if you have a four man squad you'll be able to work through the encounters faster than you could solo.
*quietly raises hand*urk said:And there are players in this thread that can complete the Halo 2 campaign in an hour and a half.
NOKYARD said:...i'd pay $200 just to get everyone back into my game room for a Halo 1 style Firefight LAN for a few hours
Now their only option is to pay $60 extra to get all the maps as opposed to paying $27.50 (assuming the mythic maps would've been released as a $20 map pack). That's not even mentioning the hundreds of thousands that are probably up to date on the DLC and should have the option to only pay $10 to continue to play everything in MM. It's complete and utter bullshit that these maps have been delayed for an exclusive release with another game. The only saving grace this DLC exclusivity has over Halo Wars is that ODST is at least more related to Halo 3, but it does have something even worse than Halo War's DLC release, no pre-announcement of the maps hitting XBLMP at a latter date. They are forcing Halo 3 players to pay $60 to continue to have full access to MM which is bullshit. I can't take anyone who sees it another way seriously.Louis Wu said:There are still 30,000 people PER WEEK buying Halo 3. You don't think they'd be happy to spend that money on a game that didn't make them spend an EXTRA $17.50 to play in all the current matchmaking playlists?
That's the same dribble Dax spouted off when Halo Wars had the map exclusivity. At least then, even if they couldn't say exactly when they'd be on XBLMP, they announced it would eventually be there. This time, who the fuck knows if Halo 3 players won't have to pay $60 to get full access to their MM.Louis Wu said:If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's ridiculous to say it's got nothing to do with ODST, though. (Bungie has stated from DAY ONE that ODST's multiplayer would be Halo 3's multiplayer.)
He never said "idiot" nor did he even really imply it. But let me go out of my way to say that anyone who would hold up beta access as a bullet-point for justifying a $60 purchase is an idiot. Has this console generation really tainted consumers so much they'd willingly and knowingly pay for a beta. Next thing you know you guys will be paying for demos (really close to same thing anyways these days). If a PC dev asked gamers to pay for a beta of their game they'd be laughed outta business, I'm far from a PC elitist but if this is what console gaming has become, I'mma jump ship.Louis Wu said:You don't want it, don't buy it. But don't tell the million-plus people who bought Crackdown that they're idiots, okay? That's patronizing and stupid.
I don't see what's so absurd about that. Without the Halo 3 MP in there do you really think MS woulda tried to pass it off as a $60 game? Even at $40 it would allow the 10 million people that bought Halo 3 (and how many people do you think will buy ODST that didn't buy Halo 3?) to only pay $25 for the rest of the package and that's if they hadn't already bought a single piece of content beforehand. And at least then they'd have the option of choosing what to buy.Louis Wu said:So basically you're saying that you're pissed that Bungie won't release the ODST campaign (and Firefight) as a separate purchase - for less money.
Is rebuying content you already own not stupid? It is. It's the fact that you see ODST's campaign, firefight, and the 3 maps as enough value to justify the purchase. It's not the fact that you get to rebuy Halo 3's 11 disc maps and all the maps currently sitting on your HDD so enticing. If they offered to sell you those same maps separately I'm sure you would blink an eye before denying to do so. So as a Halo 3 owner he has all the right in the world to bitch about these inclusions being used to defend ODST's $60 pricetag.Louis Wu said:If it makes it not worth it for you, I'm cool with that. If you feel the need to call me 'stupid enough to pay money for things I already own' because I think it's worth it for me, I think your attitude sucks.
About the M6C, did it exceed your expectations (usefulness, etc)?Devin Olsen said:**** Didn't know how to fit this into the story, so here are some things I noticed in Firefight that was worth mentioning I though ***
- Pressing the back button brought up an overview of the map. It showed player and enemy location.
- X button was night vision, so it seems like you cannot use equipment?
- The FOV is drastically different... The rocket launcher takes up most of your screen when you hold it, it's insane.
- Good weapons are scarce in Firefight. I had to use a single plasma pistol on multiple occasions because there was simply nothing else for me to pick up.
- The SMG is.. well it's an SMG. It has a good range, but it just feels so... casual.
- The pistol is really good. But I don't know if it felt as 'rewarding' to use as a BR or a Halo 1 Pistol.
- Heroic is tough. Legendary will be insane I am sure.
- Halo: ODST owns. It's Halo, but it's an entirely new and fresh game at the same time. Bravo to Bungie for pulling that off.
- PAX 09 is going to own.
- Thanks to Chloe and Max for the pictures
That's it, hope you enjoyed it!
You guys are going to play the campaign in 4-man squads on your first runs? I know I'm going to lock myself in my basement. Me, the gentle plane engine hum of my Xbox, the raucous screams of squads of Covenant getting automag'd, and my TV, together for several hours of enjoyment.kylej said:Halo 3: ODST will not take more than 3 hours (I'd estimate 2 and half hours on average) to complete when everyone here gets into their groups of 4 and starts playing.
Wow.Devin Olsen said:Long and awesome post
TimeLike said:$60 is too much if you already own Halo 3. Can you imagine if Infinity Ward said this?
"Coming in November is Modern Warfare 2. It has a new single player campaign but we've packaged in COD4 multiplayer with no matchmaking for the co-op. Give us your moneys now please."
I love Bungie and all, but the way MS has handled the packaging and pricing of ODST is really pushing me towards just a rental or borrow.
Yeah, I'm definitely going to play the ODST campaign solo first.big ander said:You guys are going to play the campaign in 4-man squads on your first runs? I know I'm going to lock myself in my basement. Me, the gentle plane engine hum of my Xbox, the raucous screams of squads of Covenant getting automag'd, and my TV, together for several hours of enjoyment.
Will existing Halo 3 users be given a chance to buy the last 3 maps for 800msp anytime this year..?urk said:Yeah, Shishka could probably speak a bit better to the plans, but I believe there will be a couple of lists loaded up for those rocking all 24 maps. Don't quote me. It's my first day. I check with some people who know stuff and make sure we detail that all out soon.
Neverender said:Are these shirts available to buy anywhere, urk? D:
Until you play with Slow-Mo and Bottomless Clips. So good.Domino Theory said:Edit: Yes, I know you're talking more about the packaging/pricing deal, but those statements above needed to be said. There's no replayability to Call of Duty's campaign. It's the same frustrating shit over and over again.
Mojo said:Will existing Halo 3 users be given a chance to buy the last 3 maps for 800msp anytime this year..?
urk said:Nope.
Neverender said:Aww man, you should smuggle some of those out and sell them to your loyal GAF companions, you'd make a killing.
Letters said:Since you didn't reply to my question, I will just assume you guys are saving the campaign coop info for a later Bnet news update.
It's quoted for this page. His post was the last post of the last page. I just want to make sure nobody misses Devin's impressions.Neverender said:And Dax, did you really have to quote his entire post? -__-
You reminded me of an experience I had on the Halo 3 launch night. Steve Scott and some others were throwing Bungie shirts, black ones with the Bungie logo on the front, into the crowd and I never got one. My friend's brother, a Halo 2 modder and all around idiot, got one but I didn't. I'm still pissed about it.Neverender said:Aww man, you should smuggle some of those out and sell them to your loyal GAF companions, you'd make a killing.
And Dax, did you really have to quote his entire post? -__-
Thanks for quoting it. I didn't realize that he had posted.Dax01 said:It's quoted for this page. His post was the last post of the last page. I just want to make sure nobody misses Devin's impressions.
My gameplan is similar.Dax01 said:Yeah, I'm definitely going to play the ODST campaign solo first.
It'll probably be like this for me:
1. About an hour or two of solo action in ODST's campaign.
2. Give the last three Halo 3 maps some love.
3. Finish ODST campaign (solo, of course).
4. Co-op sessions for ODST campaign and Firefight (Ghal, this is where you come in ).
5. Last three Halo 3 MM maps.
Kind of OT but I just noticed in your profile that we were born on the exact same day. What are the odds?big ander said:My gameplan is similar.
1) Solo campaign (probably gonna start with Heroic).
2) Mythic 2.0
Since ODST comes out on a Tuesday, and I have school (D my nights will consist of just those two. Once it hits the weekend:
3) Finish up solo campaign (If I haven't already).
4) Firefight with 3 people.
5) Mythic 2.0
urk said:We gave some away during E3 week and those coming to PAX will probably see some sweet t's on display.
That looked badass. I just turned on my xbox to do a video reply with our bomb run for the last minute tie, but my recent games section is already empty now.. curse you LP2 demo for devouring all the cache!! (or maybe it was Trials HD)Dax01 said:Rendered a video from last night - Ghal and I Own.
My favorite part is when Ghal and I are taking turns defending the bomb while the other is trying to get back on top of the base.:lol
Edit - NVM.
No problem. I'm just excited, that's all.Blueblur1 said:Thanks for quoting it. I didn't realize that he had posted.
Personally, I'm buying ODST for ODST and Firefight, not the Reach beta. I get the impression from what I've seen, anyone (Wu included) who lists the Reach beta as part of ODST lists it as an added bonus, not a reason to buy the game.EazyB said:He never said "idiot" nor did he even really imply it. But let me go out of my way to say that anyone who would hold up beta access as a bullet-point for justifying a $60 purchase is an idiot. Has this console generation really tainted consumers so much they'd willingly and knowingly pay for a beta. Next thing you know you guys will be paying for demos (really close to same thing anyways these days). If a PC dev asked gamers to pay for a beta of their game they'd be laughed outta business, I'm far from a PC elitist but if this is what console gaming has become, I'mma jump ship.
PedroLumpy said:Uh, forgive me, but I've been looking over the last few pages, and I'm getting the sense that the new maps coming with ODST are NOT going to be released separately on the marketplace. Soooo is that true?
urk said:Wouldn't bank on it. If we get details on a DLC plan though, we'll pass 'em on.
There hasn't been an announcement otherwise, so yes, it is true.PedroLumpy said:Uh, forgive me, but I've been looking over the last few pages, and I'm getting the sense that the new maps coming with ODST are NOT going to be released separately on the marketplace. Soooo is that true?
My favorite moment of the night. A perfect mix of flawless execution and Laurel and Hardy routine.Dax01 said:Rendered a video from last night - Ghal and I Own.
My favorite part is when Ghal and I are taking turns defending the bomb while the other is trying to get back on top of the base.:lol
Edit - NVM.
Wow, that is pretty crazy. But that means we've had the exact same amount of time to get good at Halo, and you still owned meA Penguin said:Kind of OT but I just noticed in your profile that we were born on the exact same day. What are the odds?
Dax01 said:There hasn't been an announcement otherwise, so yes, it is true.
PedroLumpy said:.. Holy crap. Any word on playlist integration? If those maps become required for playlists there could be a revolt.
.urk said:Yeah, Shishka could probably speak a bit better to the plans, but I believe there will be a couple of lists loaded up for those rocking all 24 maps. Don't quote me. It's my first day. I check with some people who know stuff and make sure we detail that all out soon.
I think it's worth mentioning that my TV had its volume turned all the way down. Turn on Halo 3 right now and shoot the BR with your volume turned down... Sound plays a huge part in how a game 'feels'. I am hoping/assuming some of my feeling of being underwhelmed with the pistol is coming from that.Dax01 said:About the M6C, did it exceed your expectations (usefulness, etc)?
The M6C is one of the aspects of ODST I'm most looking forward to. I'm extremely hyped to use it, just like I was for the MA5C and Halo 3.
big ander said:.
Maybe they'll bring Team Mythic back, and have that be the only Mythic 2.0 required playlist for a while, and then they'll make it required for a couple lists. SWAT, Doubles? I don't know. As long as they leave some basics open (I'd say TS, Social Slayer, Social Skirmish, Basic Training of course, and I don't know what else) people should be able to accept it.