Dragona Akehi
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blame space said:
Dimentio refers to himself as male so... no. No chick-vibes here.
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The Official Second Coming of Christ (aka Super Paper Mario) Thread of Wonder and Joy
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Dimentio refers to himself as male so... no. No chick-vibes here.
I've got it on my Gamefly Q, but it's not on there enthusiasticly. The reviews say the pseudo-RPGness of text bubbles totally ruin it and don't add anything to the game. Why didn't they just make a sequel to the Thousand Year Door? Sounds like this should be a straight platformer like New was on the DS.
blame space
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Dragona Akehi said:
Oh. I guess I just wasn't paying attention enough attention.
HylianScribe
Member
Just curious, how many people knew pressing the 1 and 2 buttons at the same time brought up a quick-toggle menu?
It makes life much easier than that + button.
It makes life much easier than that + button.
evilromero
Member
*Raises hand.TSA said:
Of course I read the instruction manual.
Grok4Spock
Member
It was in the IGN reviewTSA said:
*Runs away because he forgot his flame suitbigmakstudios
Banned
GAH. Gamefly sucks. It took 8 days for them to ship Sonic ****ing Adventure (honestly, it's not as if they were out of it), but Super Paper Mario was apparently "lost in the mail". They changed it from "out" to not shipping or on my queue at all. I added it to my queue again, but it's on short wait. Bastards. >_>
bigmakstudios
Banned
Well, apparently you live next door to their distribution center. >_> Both games shipped on the 10th for me, and I just got Sonic Adventure yesterday. Again, Super Paper Mario would get here at the same time if it was shipped from a normal company, but this is Gamefly, so it got lost in the mail, and it will need to be shipped all over again (after a wait). >_>
Had some time to relax and play... It's not so bad. I like the arcade. Just nice to sorta waste time in. Cleared the hidden game too (incredibly easy).
I'm on 7-3 now and don't want it to end, just because it feels like I'm finally getting started. It's kinda too bad there are so many poor design choices, particularly most of what happens between the start of world 6 and 7-2.
I'm on 7-3 now and don't want it to end, just because it feels like I'm finally getting started. It's kinda too bad there are so many poor design choices, particularly most of what happens between the start of world 6 and 7-2.
An European distributor says (internal list) this game is coming the 21st of June, which would be awesome since I was expecting it after the summer. Also, it lists Galaxy, Metroid and Brawl.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Buying this today, haven't read the thread.
Is the 80/20 platformer/RPG description true?
Is the 80/20 platformer/RPG description true?
Dragona Akehi
Retired
AdmiralViscen said:
100% Awesome and 100% Schweet. You're gettng 200% Awesome-Schweet for the low low price of 49.99$USD.
Finn said:
It's part of a really cumbersome task to get a worthless Pixl. You have to talk to the fortune teller in Flopside (get on her side of the counter and talk to her). She'll send you on some fetch quest. I did it and I don't really think it was worth the trouble.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Finn said:
You've
got to do a long fetch quest. If you want to start it talk to the charmer in Flopside... but make sure you hop over the table first
HylianScribe
Member
I only brought it up because I see people complaining about it and I didn't know if people had realized a quick toggle was present.
I actually didn't read the manual nor did I see it in-game, I got to a point in Chapter 2 on the first day I had the game and was like "there has to be a quick toggle" and pressed buttton combos and finally the 1+2 combo made the toggle screen appear.
There should have been hold 1+2 and use the analog stick to "cycle" through Pixls, a-la MGS style, and hold A+B and use the analog stick to "cycle" through characters as well.
But the current thing was fine.
I actually didn't read the manual nor did I see it in-game, I got to a point in Chapter 2 on the first day I had the game and was like "there has to be a quick toggle" and pressed buttton combos and finally the 1+2 combo made the toggle screen appear.
There should have been hold 1+2 and use the analog stick to "cycle" through Pixls, a-la MGS style, and hold A+B and use the analog stick to "cycle" through characters as well.
But the current thing was fine.
Azure Dream
Member
TSA said:
My remote doesn't have an analog stick on it, so I'm glad they didn't go with that method.
(Okay, I get it, you meant tilting the Wii Remote left and right, correct?)I think it was fine as it was. But ultimately, not being able to flip (or stay flipped) as the other characters was unnaturally limiting. It should not have been restricted to just Mario. Had they not forced that, the need to change characters so often would've been far less.
Well those last 7 hours were a delightful romp.
Finally done at 20 hours. The game really picked up in the 7th and 8th worlds. Lots of fun. Hell, I even got around to enjoying the story at the end.
As far as my favorite Wii games go now:
1. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 10
2. Super Paper Mario - 8.5
3. Excite Truck - 8.3
4. Sonic and the Secret Rings - 7.8
And within the Mario RPG series:
1. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 9
2. Super Paper Mario - 8.5
3. Paper Mario - 8.3
4. Super Mario RPG - 7.8
5. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time - 7
6. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga - 5.5
Finally done at 20 hours. The game really picked up in the 7th and 8th worlds. Lots of fun. Hell, I even got around to enjoying the story at the end.
As far as my favorite Wii games go now:
1. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 10
2. Super Paper Mario - 8.5
3. Excite Truck - 8.3
4. Sonic and the Secret Rings - 7.8
And within the Mario RPG series:
1. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 9
2. Super Paper Mario - 8.5
3. Paper Mario - 8.3
4. Super Mario RPG - 7.8
5. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time - 7
6. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga - 5.5
AdmiralViscen
Banned
So every time I touch one of these stupid gray piles of shit, I go back to the town? Cool
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
Starting this today baby after its been on the shelf waiting for 1.5 weeks (damn exams!)
Just finished Chapter 4. Mindbending awesomeness, great use of perspective. Chapter 3 was also mustard. From what people here are writing, I've already played the best of the game. Is this true? Because I have such a great feeling for the game right now, I'd hate for that to be wiped out by (more) tedious fetch quests and uninspired levels.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
JoeMartin said:
It's called BOWSER FIRE?
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I hate how near the end of the game(chapters 6 and 7), the game turns into 'Super Paper Fetch Quests'. Really poor choice IMO. It almost seemed like they ran out of ideas. I loved the game until that happened.
Dragona Akehi said:
I'd be cool with that if I wasn't required to use Mario 90% of the time because the entire game is built around the flip mechanic.
I actually killed the first one with Boomer (before you even have Bowser, by the way), so I wasn't even expecting it when I hit the second one. And be honest, it is entirely retarded.
"Guys, guys. I just had an epiphany. Let's make a mob that sends the player back to flipside for absolutely no good reason, that way they have to take a 5 minute walk back to where they were. That'll teach those bastards to try and jump on this blob of shit with eyes again!"
"Brilliant!"
Aside from a few things like this, the game is 95% pure genius. I'm loving it. Bravo IS.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
JoeMartin said:I'd be cool with that if I wasn't required to use Mario 90% of the time because the entire game is built around the flip mechanic.
I actually killed the first one with Boomer (before you even have Bowser, by the way), so I wasn't even expecting it when I hit the second one. And be honest, it is entirely retarded.
"Guys, guys. I just had an epiphany. Let's make a mob that sends the player back to flipside for absolutely no good reason, that way they have to take a 5 minute walk back to where they were. That'll teach those bastards to try and jump on this blob of shit again!"
(note: actual photo of IS coders while creating the 'oh bitch, you got jacked bitch' mob)
"Brilliant!"
Well uh, whenever I see something new I send Tippi after it. I never once got sent back to flipside.
Azure Dream
Member
In the pits especially, I felt like I was playing a sidescrolling version of Bomberman.
It only appears in a few spots, as one of the types of "curses" that monster can have (others include poison, weighing down your jumps, slowing you down, and mixing up your controls), depending on the color. So basically, touching those monsters is usually a bad idea anyway, and this particular variant generally only appears near the beginning of a chapter, to my recollection.
They're slow as hell, so just take them out from a distance if you can. Bowser, Boomer, etc.
jvalioli said:
It only appears in a few spots, as one of the types of "curses" that monster can have (others include poison, weighing down your jumps, slowing you down, and mixing up your controls), depending on the color. So basically, touching those monsters is usually a bad idea anyway, and this particular variant generally only appears near the beginning of a chapter, to my recollection.
They're slow as hell, so just take them out from a distance if you can. Bowser, Boomer, etc.
Finished the main game in around 18 hours. Some final thoughts:
Positives
Visuals: Outstanding artstyle, as per usual from IntSys. In particular World 3 and 5. Brilliant stuff.
Localization: Treehouse does it again. Some of the funniest dialogs and scenes in any game. If you've played the game, you know what I'm talking about. I didn't find it to be too wordy since it's really a Paper Mario game. Oh, and anyone of you that wished there was voice-acting, you're idiots.
Boss fights: Most of them were pretty easy, but were memorable (World 1 and 4).
Star Powerup: Yes, this deserves a bonus point because everytime that music comes on, BIG GRIN.
Mini-games: I just got around to these. The ghost shooting and tilt island ones were really fun.
Negatives
Level design: By far my biggest complaint. Seriously a mixed bag. Some levels are great with the implementation of the flip mechanic, but a lot of that freshness seemed to taper off after the first few levels as you get more characters and pixels. It's like they ran out of ideas after world 3 (to be fair, world 7 was decent). World 4 was trash, but the biggest offender is World 6. Are you KIDDING me?
I know it's Paper Mario, but a lot of the sections with doors breaking the flow of the game were not exactly riveting. They really should have expanded the platforming influence and made complete levels with no interruptions. And like a lot of people aluded to, 3D flip should have been for all characters.
Puzzles: Another mixed bag. Sometimes they're brilliant, and sometimes they just leave me scratching my head and not in a good way. It's like that all throughout the game. I already stated this earlier in this thread, but World 5's puzzles involving backtracking were so NOT fun that I was shocked those segments made it into the game. Much like the 10 minute hold-down-the-d-pad thing.
Inventory space: A remnant from Thousand Year Door that should have been eliminated. There's no need for this restriction. It's not like the game's hard. It especially annoyed me when I had to go and
in World 7.
Bunch more stuff I could nitpick on (glitchy remote pointer functionality, flip timer being totally unnecessary etc.) but I think I've said enough and I could look past those faults. If I have to rate it now, a 7.5 seems about right. I would rank it below Paper Mario:TTYD (8.5 for me personally), because it actually simplified the great mechanics of that game (badge system, star power) for a stripped down pseudo-platformer that's really not deep at all. Plus I felt that TTYD had a bit more diversity in terms of environments, and was actually more of a challenge. I might trade it in for credit after I get done with the mini-games.
Positives
Visuals: Outstanding artstyle, as per usual from IntSys. In particular World 3 and 5. Brilliant stuff.
Localization: Treehouse does it again. Some of the funniest dialogs and scenes in any game. If you've played the game, you know what I'm talking about. I didn't find it to be too wordy since it's really a Paper Mario game. Oh, and anyone of you that wished there was voice-acting, you're idiots.
Boss fights: Most of them were pretty easy, but were memorable (World 1 and 4).
Star Powerup: Yes, this deserves a bonus point because everytime that music comes on, BIG GRIN.
Mini-games: I just got around to these. The ghost shooting and tilt island ones were really fun.
Negatives
Level design: By far my biggest complaint. Seriously a mixed bag. Some levels are great with the implementation of the flip mechanic, but a lot of that freshness seemed to taper off after the first few levels as you get more characters and pixels. It's like they ran out of ideas after world 3 (to be fair, world 7 was decent). World 4 was trash, but the biggest offender is World 6. Are you KIDDING me?
I know it's Paper Mario, but a lot of the sections with doors breaking the flow of the game were not exactly riveting. They really should have expanded the platforming influence and made complete levels with no interruptions. And like a lot of people aluded to, 3D flip should have been for all characters.
Puzzles: Another mixed bag. Sometimes they're brilliant, and sometimes they just leave me scratching my head and not in a good way. It's like that all throughout the game. I already stated this earlier in this thread, but World 5's puzzles involving backtracking were so NOT fun that I was shocked those segments made it into the game. Much like the 10 minute hold-down-the-d-pad thing.
Inventory space: A remnant from Thousand Year Door that should have been eliminated. There's no need for this restriction. It's not like the game's hard. It especially annoyed me when I had to go and
search for fruit over again due to limited space
Bunch more stuff I could nitpick on (glitchy remote pointer functionality, flip timer being totally unnecessary etc.) but I think I've said enough and I could look past those faults. If I have to rate it now, a 7.5 seems about right. I would rank it below Paper Mario:TTYD (8.5 for me personally), because it actually simplified the great mechanics of that game (badge system, star power) for a stripped down pseudo-platformer that's really not deep at all. Plus I felt that TTYD had a bit more diversity in terms of environments, and was actually more of a challenge. I might trade it in for credit after I get done with the mini-games.