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The Official UFC 100 Discussion Thread

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Boogie

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100 UFC events. Wow. Okay, it’s not “really” 100 UFCs, even ignoring the Fight Nights, what with the couple “Ultimate Ultimate” cards back in the day, plus the 37.5 event, but so what?

The UFC has hit the century mark, and look how far it has come. I remember when GAF MMA threads 5 years ago would be lucky to get more than a dozen replies, and now they go on for pages.

I think in anticipation of the event, we should share how we became fans of this sport.

For myself, I was involved in the martial arts since I was 12, but I didn’t immediately take to watching MMA. So I’m not really an “old school” fan. I was aware of the UFC, but hadn’t seen it. Until a couple years later when my karate instructor took a fight in the “Canadian UFC” in Montreal (actually the UCC, precursor to the now-defunct TKO).

That piqued my interest, and so I decided to catch the next event, which happened to be UFC 37.5 in 2002. The event wasn’t particularly special, but I was hooked. It was, of course, much different from my karate sparring. I mean, hardly anyone was throwing any kicks! All I kept hearing about was this amazing martial art called Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and how effective it was. I didn’t know it was all about grappling, but I nonetheless intuitively “got” the idea behind groundfighting and its potential. And I was determined that when I went to university the next year, I would start training it. And the rest is history.

What's your story?

The UFC and the MMA media are all putting on retrospectives that you can find online. The UFC is airing its top 100 fights, starting tonight on Spike, though you won't see any Frank Shamrock fights or fights where Tito Ortiz wins.

Dave Meltzer has been running a series of retrospective articles on past UFC events: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/expertsarchive;_ylt=Al10s_IxnqOrq_3AWvq7lzs9Eo14?author=Dave+Meltzer

UFC history in 4 and a half minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnRF4shbug




This might be the most stacked card in years, with two title fights included. This event looks sick. Let’s break down the fights.


UFC WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT

Georges “Rush” St. Pierre (18-2) vs. Thiago “Pitbull” Alves (15-3)


GSP. Along with Fedor and Anderson Silva, he is the marquee fighter of the sport. Probably the most skilled and well-rounded fighter in the sport today. And he will CRUSH Alves.

Okay, in all honestly, Alves is a big challenge for GSP. He’s demonstrated devastating striking, solid takedown defence, and some pretty good groundwork too. If he catches GSP, he could put his lights out.

But everyone knows that I’m the biggest GSP homer around, so I’m simply going to make the case for GSP smashing Alves.

Put simply, GSP is going to take out Alves because GSP has proven that he can, while there is not much evidence that Alves can aspire to GSP’s level. Alves might end up like Fitch: being able to prove that he’s damn good at everything, but that GSP is just that much better.

First, the ground game. GSP has one submission loss, and Alves has two. So, not much to take from that, really. In terms of offence, however, Alves has only one “submission” win on his record, and that’s submission from punches. GSP has four sub wins. And GSP has dominated a BJJ world champion on the ground in BJ Penn.

GSP’s top game is unmatched. If he gets you down, you ARE going to get fucked up. I think when it comes to ground skills, GSP has to be considered superior.

Now, wrestling. Again, GSP is clearly superior. He is the best wrestler at 170lbs. Period.

“But Boogie,” I hear you say “Alves was able to stop the takedowns of Koscheck and Hughes”

“So the fuck what?” I reply. Matt Hughes is a shell of his former self. And imo, GSP in his prime is a better MMA wrestler than Hughes anyway. Also, Hughes doesn’t have the striking confidence or skills that GSP does, or the ability to use his striking to set up his takedowns like GSP.

As for Koscheck, well, again, Koscheck fights STUPID. He came into the Alves fight trying to bang it out on the feet, and only desperately shoot in for takedowns when he was rocked. No strategy, no gameplan, just wildly hoping for a takedown when he was losing the standup. That won’t be how GSP fights Alves.

Bottom line: If GSP wants to take this fight to the ground, it’s going to the ground. Maybe not the very first attempt, but he will get it there.

Finally: striking. While I will grant that Alves unquestionably has greater power, I actually think the case could be made that GSP is a superior striker technically. He mixes up his attacks almost flawlessly. Plus, GSP will have a reach advantage due to Alves' short stubby arms.

Then there's the intangibles, like Greg Jackson's coaching, and the world-class training partners that GSP brings in.

GSP's reign shall continue.

UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT

Brock “I have a penis on my chest” Lesnar (3-1) vs. Frank Mir (12-3)


For all that the UFC has done to increase the depth to its heavyweight division, this still seems to be a lackluster championship bout on paper. I mean, there is no way that the winner of this fight will be able to make any claims to be the #1 heavyweight fighter in the world. Nonetheless, I am looking forward to this fight for two reasons.

One is because there is a fascination with the potential of Brock Lesnar. He’s such a freak athlete that I am interested to see if he can truly become some kind of dominant champion. He certainly has the physical gifts. We’ll just have to see if he can polish his skills.

The other reason is the nature of the bout as a revenge match, which are always fun. Lesnar wants to prove that he can beat Mir, and Mir wants to prove that the first fight was no lucky sub.

My thoughts are thus: If Lesnar fights smart, he wins. In spite of Mir taking out Big Nog standing, I would be incredibly surprised to see Mir win the striking here. Lesnar should use his wrestling skills defensively, pummel Mir standing, and not follow through to the ground until Mir is clearly nearly finished.

Mir won’t be able to take him down, and I doubt he’ll win the striking. That would mean Lesnar wins.

On the other hand, we don’t know if Lesnar can fight smart. He’s still green, still has a wrestler’s instincts, and, presumably, might still get excited about knocking his opponent down to go in for the kill. I’m just not sure if Lesnar yet has the cage sense to keep his wits about him.

We also don’t know how he’d fare in the later rounds. But then, Mir has a history of poor stamina, so I doubt Mir would beat him in the later rounds.

I think I have to root for the underdog here, so I’ll be cheering for Mir. But I’m picking Lesnar to win, maybe TKO in round 2.

Jon Fitch (18-3) vs. Paulo Thiago (11-0)

I still think that Thiago’s win over Koscheck was flukey, but that doesn’t stop this from being an exciting matchup. You have an undefeated fighter with elite submission skills and apparent knockout power facing the near-consensus #2 fighter in the division who is seeking vengeance for the defeat of his teammate.

I think that Fitch will fight smarter than Kos did and take this by decision.

Dan Henderson(24-7) vs. Michael Bisping (18-1)

I don’t watch TUF anymore, so I have no idea how much heat has developed between these two. Nonetheless, it should be an interesting bout. Stylewise, Bisping is in trouble here, as he simply doesn’t have the wrestling skills to keep Hendo from taking him down. On the other hand, Hendo often doesn’t fight smart, he gets right hand heavy, and decides to slug it out. I’m rooting for Bisping to win, but I think he only does if Hendo suddenly gets “old”. Hendo by decision.

Yoshihiro “Sexyama” Akiyama (12-1) vs. Alan Belcher (14-5)

Sexyama makes his UFC debut against the solid but not spectacular Alan Belcher. I am very much looking forward to seeing whether Akiyama can make a splash in the UFC. I am thinking that he takes this.


Mark "Cardio" Coleman (15-9) vs. Stephan Bonnar (13-5)

There are two facts in this fight. Bonnar WILL get taken down by Coleman. And Coleman WILL gas out. I say Bonnar takes it, probably by decision.

Mac Danzig (18-6-1) vs. Jim Miller (13-2)

Jim Miller is someone who has fought 3 times in the UFC, yet somehow I’ve missed all his fights. He’s got some good wins on his resume though, I’m going to guess that he beats Danzig.

Jon Jones (8-0) vs. Jake O'Brien (11-2)

I’d like to believe that Jones is a true prospect, but I’m rather skeptical of his ability to stuff O’Brien’s shot for three rounds. Eh, what the hell, Jones by decision.

Dong-Hyun Kim (11-0-1) vs. T.J. Grant (14-2)

Kim.

C.B. Dollaway (8-1) vs. Tom Lawlor (5-1)

Don’t know Lawlor. Dollaway it is.

Matt Grice (9-2) vs. Shannon Gugerty (11-3)

Dunno either guy. Who cares? Grice.

Official event site: http://100.ufc.com

UFC 100: We're Just Getting Started hype video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gP-C_D1sNA
 

Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
here are my picks:

HW Title Match: Lesnar
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WW Title Match: GSP
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Fitch/Thiago:
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(from UFC 98 weekend at UFC 2009 party)

Sexyama
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Coleman/Bonnar
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Bisping/Henderson
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Miller/Danzig
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Jones/O'Brien
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Kim/Grant
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Dollaway/Lawlor
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Grice/Gugerty
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I'm watching this in Banff, Alberta with my wife!

It's our anniversary weekend getaway but I convinced we can go out for a nice supper and watch this (most my attention will be on her of course...lulzercaust).
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
My buddy is going out to Vegas and I'm thinking of having him drop $20 on Mir for me. Any idea what the odds are for the fight? I'm wondering what kind of payout i'd get for a small bet like that. Maybe I'll have to send $100 to make it worthwhile :lol


Anyways, I'm pretty sure that Mir is gonna beat Lesnar. I'm just debating whether or not to use my UFC PPVCash on this card and watch it at home, or whether I should just go to a bar to watch it.
 

Asbel

Member
it's very possible for all three of the main event fights to go either way but my picks are

mir by sub

gsp by tko

hendo by decision

fitch by humping

bonnar by tko

sexyama by ko

kim by tko

dollaway by sub
 

yacobod

Banned
picks:

Brock via 1st round TKO
GSP via decision in a 5 round war
Bisping via decision
Sexyama
Fitch
Bonnar
Kim
Miller
 

Slizz

Member
not really picks but i want fucking mir to win (love his swagger and attitude, more likeable than brock for sure), i also want alves to win (just cant seem to like GSP), also the other undercard main event kinda, i want bisping to win (love his asshole attitude lol)
 
i hope this event is awesome.

it seems like some of the best cards on paper end up sucking, and some of the worst end up not... or maybe that's because of my preconceived expectations.

goooo cock chestnar!
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
EraldoCoil said:
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN SEXED!!!!!

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I'M DRIVING THE SEXWAGON ALL OVER ALAN BELCHER!!!!!!!

:lol

I was scrolling down this thread thinking it needs more Sexyama and you delivered.
 
Brian Fellows said:
:lol

I was scrolling down this thread thinking it needs more Sexyama and you delivered.

i'm not gay, but fuck i'll admit that Akiyama is Sexy as hell :lol

i appreciate sexy

i'll probably rage out then cry if sexyama loses.
 

Fafnir

Member
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Jiu-Jitsu guys are always dangerous but I think don't think Brock will get caught again. Brock by F5.

Georges St-Pierre Vs. Thiago Alves
GSP should be taking Alves down and dominating from the ground, just gotta watch out for the knees.

Dan Henderson Vs. Michael Bisping
I really do not want to see a Anderson Silva vs Hendo 2, but I don't think Bisbing has the power to ko Hendo's chin. Decision Dan by decision.

Jon Fitch Vs. Paulo Thiago
Fitch will get revenge for his buddy Koscheck.

Yoshihiro Akiyama Vs. Alan Belcher
I'll jump on the Sexyama train :lol

Mark Coleman Vs. Stephan Bonnar
Bonnar by age.

Jon Jones Vs. Jake O'Brien
I like Jones' style, I want to see more of this:

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Thiago Is My Boy! I chilled with him and some other fighters from America Top Team while I was in Ft. Launderer at King of the Cage Hurricane. The night before that event I went to a Revolution Fight Club Event in Miami that had some damn good bouts.


TEAM THIAGO!
 

Xater

Member
Every time I see Brock I can't concentrate on the fight. All I am thinking is why he has this shitty tattoo on his chest. :lol
 
For people in the UK this is supposed to be live on Virgin 1 (Sky channel 121 and Freeview channel 20)

I enjoyed that Ultimate Fighter series that they showed, so I will definitely watch this.
 
Like most people I clearly see how this could go either way and If Brock gets sloppy he will get subbed again but I just think ideally his camp will have curbed his aggresive tendencies a bit and have him fight a smarter fighter and be careful about when to go to the ground with Mir. With that in mind I think he is just too physically dominant with Mir and he'll get the TKO somewhere along the line.


Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir


Here is the one where I'm going to pick the upset. No real reason. Just a gut feeling. I just think Alves matches up with GSP very well. I'll be surprised if GSP is able to bulldog Alves around. And if it stays in a standup situation Alves is just as likely to win as GSP is. I think Alves is ready and improved a great deal and I think he'll pull the upset. I'm very much excited for this fight. My Fight of the Year arguably. If GSP does win, I will say that I see no one on the horizon capable of challegning him and that it would be a damn impressive notch on his belt


Georges St-Pierre vs. Thiago Alves


I thought the Thiago win over Josh was a bit flukey so I'm still going to go with Fitch who generally fights smarter than Kosh.


Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago


Bisping is the better striker but so was Franklin and Henderson just has the ability to get in close and grind out a fight and take you down so I see him doing the same here.


Middleweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping


Belcher is dangerous but I'll go ahead and pick the Akiyama mainly because I want him to win ;)


Middleweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
 

Boogie

Member
So, as it turns out, even though UFC 100 isn't actually the 100th UFC show, it is, coincidentally, the 100th event since Zuffa took over the company.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/7/5/938466/the-real-ufc-100

Okay, now maybe this has already been pointed out, discussed, and even become common knowledge, but I couldn't find anything about it on the BE search engine, so here goes.



I was thinking the other day, as so many of us have, about UFC 100, and how 29 of our beloved pay-per-views actually occurred under the umbrella of a different partnership than the current one. Before too long, I grew curious about what Zuffa's real 100th MMA event would be, so I fired up Wikipedia and got to counting.



Since Zuffa purchased the UFC in 2001, the Fertittas and Co. have hosted:



70 PPVs (sloppily including non-US cards that were aired for free on Spike)

19 Ultimate Fight Nights (including Ortiz v Shamrock 3)

9 Ultimate Fighter Finales

and 1 anomalous fight card in UFC "37.5"



Meaning that the "real" UFC 100 is...



UFC 100!
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
whytemyke said:
My buddy is going out to Vegas and I'm thinking of having him drop $20 on Mir for me. Any idea what the odds are for the fight? I'm wondering what kind of payout i'd get for a small bet like that. Maybe I'll have to send $100 to make it worthwhile :lol

Mir is at +175 at the moment on Sportsbook.com.
 

Busty

Banned
For UK UFC fans current news has it that ESPN will sign a long term deal to broadcast all UFC programming and PPVs in Britain.

But rumours have it that a deal can't be worked out by this weekend so UFC 100 will actually be shown on either Channel 5 or Virgin 1.

Could it be that UK fans get to see this supercard for free!!!!

That's my weekend sorted. :D
 

painey

Member
Mir knocked Nogueira on his ass, what, 3 times before smashing the hell out of him? I think he might surprise Brock. I just cant wait for this PPV!
 

thefro

Member
Spike is showing Countdown to UFC 100 tonight at 10 PM

IMHO, it's pretty clear that whoever wins the Mir/Lesnar match will be the clear #2 or #3 in heavyweight in the world (depending on the Barnett/Fedor match outcome).
 

smurfx

get some go again
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Georges St-Pierre Vs. Thiago Alves
Dan Henderson Vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch Vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama Vs. Alan Belcher
Mark Coleman Vs. Stephan Bonnar
Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller
Dong-Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant

alright those are my picks.
 
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