Beer Monkey
Member
Crap, I got double-billed for the new DLC when I tried to redownload it in the "non-free" IOS app (had already bought it in the discontinued "free" app)! This happen to anybody?
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The Pinball Arcade |OT| play them all from Soho to Brighton
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Yeah, like... I don't *hate* them, but it's easy to see the similarities between them. 4-5 loops, all to get you an exact percentage of the main basic goal (the madnesses in MM, each freak in MB, each jewel in TotAN), the target to activate the "super" aspect of those goals (Merlin's Magic, the MB one, the bazaar in TotAN), the jets for multipliers/bonuses (all pretty much exactly the same in each), the novelty-ish goals (trolls in MM, Drac in MB...) have them all acting pretty much the same. At least when we get TZ and STTNG there'll be a good amount of variation, but the "new" tables they've picked couldn't have been more similar if they tried.
Minsc
Gold Member
Also think not having Gamecenter in place before getting in front of the spot light is a bad idea. A lot of people are going to be immediately turned away by the facebook integration, when that should just be an option.
There's not really much you can do about the everything must be completely free (no IAP) if it says free or 1-star users though, just hope that they get a few thousand new customers despite the 100,000s that turn away.
Baron
Member
It's been almost threeeeee months since it was released on the 360 without a single update now. I'm kinda pissed I decided on it over the PS3 version.
For me the PS3 version comes out next week, so the 360 version would still have been better.
But to be honest, since I couldn't wait, I bought it for the 360 and will switch as soon as the PS3 version comes out.
Minsc
Gold Member
3DS is not looking very good, it's pretty much dead last in their priorities (that or PC, but probably 3DS since you could at least pick PC for the TZ kickstarter, but not 3DS). They said 3DS and Wii are not capable of running the rom emulation / engine without a lot of optimization, Wii is simply not happening at all actually, too weak a system.
Tables for the 360 are "moving through the approval process at Microsoft. We will announce an availability date when we know it." So in 6 months when Microsoft feels like finally approving the tables, you will be able to get them, but don't get too excited, because they will probably have bugs and you'll need to wait another 6 months for those bugs to get fixed.
BolognaSoup
Member
I bought on 360 originally. IF I buy anything else from them it will be PC or PS3. Sorry if it sounds cruel, but the Wii should have never been a platform for this to begin with. Honestly, who has a Wii that does not also have a 360/PS3/PC that would actually want to play old school pinball anyway?
Emulation of what, exactly? The firmware that played sounds and drove the dot matrix display? Maybe I'm crazy, but that would seem to be about as demanding as a pocket calculator. Even if the software was running the table's electromechanical parts, I have a really hard time believing the CPU was beefy in the slightest.
I know the 3DS isn't that powerful, but is it really that far behind the iPhone and all Android phones running this game? I don't think so.
I know the 3DS isn't that powerful, but is it really that far behind the iPhone and all Android phones running this game? I don't think so.
exmachina64
Banned
In my usage, this game made my old Galaxy S chug, but it runs smoothly on my Galaxy Nexus.
Williams and Bally Classics both used scripting for events on the table (ie. if ball hits this target, light this light, play this sound and this animation). They're fully emulating everything in PA, which means dumping the ROMs from the tables and executing every little instruction, bugs, easter eggs and all. And also how to handle things like prioritising sounds, display information, that sort of thing (especially during something like multiball when there's a shitload going on).
I asked the same thing on their forum and that's basically the answer they gave me. And thinking about it, it makes total sense. Older tables (like Gorgar, Black Hole etc.) still use scripting because they don't have the chipsets for those tables emulated yet (and people have reported bugs with certain lights not lighting up etc. because that particular condition wasn't programmed in), but they will be implementing that soon.
RadarScope1
Member
Kinda bummed I bought this on 360. Looked like the best overall version at the time. Now it's just lagging and appears to be the worst version to own.
added_time
Member
It's the only platform I even own to play it on... unless they release it for PC or 3DS some day.
Whatever. I will give them my money if they let me but it's all on them.
Dreamwriter
Member
Yeah, that's why they warned on their Facebook page that if you already had the free version, to make sure you had it updated and don't download the full app, because Apple was making them take down the free app for the length of the promotion so as not to confuse customers. They are two completely different SKU's in Apple's system. They should have mentioned that in the game's update description as well, that can be updated in seconds, no review period for that.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
FYI, Circus Voltaire and Funhouse posted for Vita today as well as PS3. However, the patch to allow the Vita to see the DLC, and the patch to allow PA on PS3 to use any DLC is nowhere in sight.
So be warned, you can't use the DLC yet if you buy it...
So be warned, you can't use the DLC yet if you buy it...
If you delete your Pinball arcade game from the PS3 and redownload it you can use all the new tables. This was a workaround I found. Still cant get them on the VITA. I bet if I delete of thier it will work too but I know game saves are tied to the game on the vita so Im hestant to delete.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Deleting isn't even required, downloading the 'demo' from PSN will work.
Vita requires a separate patch, redownloading the Vita version won't work.
Heiho EU pinball arcade... I need you. I can't play this crash prone Android version anymore... and it loves to crash most when I get into really long games with high scores. Like when I score a billion in Bride of Pinbot. Or when the monsters assemble for the big finale in Monster Bash. Blargh.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I would agree, it is extremely desaturated.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Vita patch is up, 106 MB, enables Circus Voltaire and Funhouse.
BolognaSoup
Member
Freakin Vita updates and still nothing on 360. Brilliant.
Minsc
Gold Member
Impressions of the PS3 DLC/patch are pretty encouraging, seems they greatly enhanced the lighting (now significantly better than the 360 version and all other versions as well) and also made the tables a bit darker so all the crazy multi-ball light shows shine a lot more, they may have removed the lag (a few people seem to say it's gone), and they improved the physics on the tables so the ball doesn't feel as floaty. Also saves camera settings and removes facebook logging in at launch. Also they will be adding trophies:
Edit: You can get a little idea of the lighting from a video someone at TPA forums shot here.
And there is a interview concerning the Wii U having unique features as well:
Also, a member on TPA is suggesting the PC version maybe be coming sooner than one thinks (which at this point I'm pegging like November when TZ releases, so anytime in the Summer would be a plus).
Edit: You can get a little idea of the lighting from a video someone at TPA forums shot here.
And there is a interview concerning the Wii U having unique features as well:
Also, a member on TPA is suggesting the PC version maybe be coming sooner than one thinks (which at this point I'm pegging like November when TZ releases, so anytime in the Summer would be a plus).
Elvin Atombender
Member
I thought it was supposed to be released on European PSN today?
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2012/06/27/heads-up-game-store-update-27th-june-2012/
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2012/06/27/heads-up-game-store-update-27th-june-2012/
Wait... November is "sooner"? Jesus fucking Christ. I was under the impression it was weeks away. If that's the consensus... ugh.
Nobody cares about a Wii U port right now. Screw that, concentrate on what's out now rather than what will be out later. Get PC sorted, then just port it over to whatever console comes out (not counting 3DS) because they're all essentially PC-based anyway.
ARGH.
Minsc
Gold Member
November was my current expectations for the PC version based on not having to be disappointed by more delays (which FarSight is quite good at), sorry for the confusion. There's really no dates to ground it at all, other than the news FarSight hinted at like a month ago and never updated, and this recent speculation on TPA forums that a PC release may be sooner than later, which would bump my overly pessimistic expectations to summer time. I refuse to believe it's weeks away (weren't they just recently talking about still needing to get the engine made and have the PC version be feature complete to the consoles with lighting etc), but would be happy to be wrong!
depths20XX
Member
Been playing a lot of this on Vita. Tried Cirqus Voltaire and Funhouse last night. Ball actually got stuck in the back one time on cirqus and was never able to get unstuck, even the call attendant thing didn't work. Seems like a fun table though. Mostly been playing MM, got 160mill a couple days ago. Probably my favorite table right now but I need to put more time in with the new ones. It's a shame this game feels like such a work in progress.
They confirmed in the comments section that it was delayed (didn't say anything more than "delayed"). I guess they will wait until the Vita version is ready which would mean it might be another 3 weeks or so.
Gillian Seed
Banned
I completed all the Standard Goals on Medieval Madness, but my Trophy did not pop. What gives?
Baron
Member
Why am I not surprised at more bugs?
With the three month and counting wait for any patch or DLC for the Xbox version, I've basically just tried to forget about the game. If I want to play some video pinball, I'll boot up my Williams disc. In six months...a year, whenever they get their shit together, then I'll consider playing Pinball Arcade again.
Until then - Farsight overpromised and way, way underdelivered.
What trophy?
Minsc what does removed Facebook login at launch mean? I don't use FB and I dislike having to click through the FB screen when I boot the PS3 version... Yet the FB login screen is still there on my PS3 version after updating and buying all the new tables. Can you clarify please?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
For EU PS3 customers, via the TPA Facebook page:
They're right, it's gone.
I was remembering last night when I downloaded the DLC and repeatedly restarted the game only to find the DLC wasn't recognized.
Came here and saw the tip to delete the game and redownload -- which I did, and everything works wonderfully. So well, I suppose, that I didn't even notice that the FB stuff was gone. Yay!
Agent X
Member
I just tried two quick games of Tales of the Arabian Nights--one before and one after the update.
I've got mixed feelings on the lighting issue. The lighting does look better, but the table is also noticeably darker overall, as is the scoreboard (which is now drawn to show the individual LED lights).
Unfortunately, the lag is still there. There doesn't seem to be any difference.
They did add a nice XMB background image now, which wasn't there before.
One new bug I noticed is that the high score font for the local scoreboard is messed up. There seems to be an issue with scores that have the numeral "1" in them--the proportional spacing or justification or whatever it's called isn't wide enough. (I forgot the term, but it describes how spacing varies for narrow characters like "i" or "l" compared to wide characters like "M" or "W".) As a result, the characters overlap, especially if you have a "1" next to a comma. It looks weird, as if they tried to overcompensate for the narrow characters and ended up squashing everything together.
Damnit, after hearing about that lighting I just want the new tables for the 360! But I promised myself that I was going to wait for PC before I gave FarSight any more money (actually bought the 360 one, but that was it) but it looks so damned tempting... if they get it right.
Edit: Is there a PS3 demo I can get? I wanna scope it out.
Edit: Is there a PS3 demo I can get? I wanna scope it out.
There is a demo in the U.S. PS Store.
Sweet. All tables I guess?
Anyway, I'll give it a shot. After reading the PAFans forum, I'm once again reminded that paying only a few dollars for these tables is dirt cheap and makes buying it for each platform seem like a drop in the ocean. I may be guilted into buying it for PS3 yet!
Anyway, I'll give it a shot. After reading the PAFans forum, I'm once again reminded that paying only a few dollars for these tables is dirt cheap and makes buying it for each platform seem like a drop in the ocean. I may be guilted into buying it for PS3 yet!
Gillian Seed
Banned
Agreed! :-( And TY Minsc for the update on the Trophy patch.
added_time
Member
From the new email newsletter from Farsight:
"On 360, the first three add-on packs have been approved and await the approval of the title update which should be coming very soon."
As I don't own a smart phone, I am anxiously awaiting this.
"On 360, the first three add-on packs have been approved and await the approval of the title update which should be coming very soon."
As I don't own a smart phone, I am anxiously awaiting this.
Just played Bride of Pinbot while my kids were watching. I'd really only played around a little, and never had read up on the table. Certainly didn't read the instructions.
The kids and I were floored when
, and they couldn't stop watching after that. Great table, if only for that moment.
The kids and I were floored when
the robot became human