This. Delete original game. Redownload. Then start and try DLC table from menu. Launches store and you can install DLC keys.
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The Pinball Arcade |OT| play them all from Soho to Brighton
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Ohhhhh shit. You're awesome.If you cradle the ball on the flipper tiger loop will eventually time out and it will return to harem. Just catch it when it pops out of the bazaar. Once you know this it's a piece of cake to get harem multiball.
If you cradle the ball on the flipper tiger loop will eventually time out and it will return to harem. Just catch it when it pops out of the bazaar. Once you know this it's a piece of cake to get harem multiball.
I think this didn't happen in Pinball Hall of Fame.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Posts from the iOS thread:
Originally, I asked what tables were must haves for Pinball Arcade and Zen Pinball (sorry, maybe this one is "taboo" in this thread, but I really enjoy it). As I state below, I'll likely end up with all of them at some point, but I'm curious on what order I should buy them.
Gave the trial a run last night on this table. I loved the commentary! This one will likely be bought.
I've tried Theater of Magic and Circus Voltaire. Both also very good. I haven't gotten around to trying Bride of Pinbot yet, though. I'll give that a run tonight before making my final decisions on what to buy first.
I'll likely end up with all the PA tables since it's SO well done. I am curious, though - Black Hole and Gorgar seem like MUCH older machines than some of the available tables. Do they lose their charm relatively quickly? I enjoyed Black Hole when I played it (maxed out the demo a few times), but it appears to be limited on longevity. The same can be said for Gorgar, no?
Originally, I asked what tables were must haves for Pinball Arcade and Zen Pinball (sorry, maybe this one is "taboo" in this thread, but I really enjoy it). As I state below, I'll likely end up with all of them at some point, but I'm curious on what order I should buy them.
Gave the trial a run last night on this table. I loved the commentary! This one will likely be bought.
I've tried Theater of Magic and Circus Voltaire. Both also very good. I haven't gotten around to trying Bride of Pinbot yet, though. I'll give that a run tonight before making my final decisions on what to buy first.
I'll likely end up with all the PA tables since it's SO well done. I am curious, though - Black Hole and Gorgar seem like MUCH older machines than some of the available tables. Do they lose their charm relatively quickly? I enjoyed Black Hole when I played it (maxed out the demo a few times), but it appears to be limited on longevity. The same can be said for Gorgar, no?
Bride of Pinbot doesn't have the lastability you think when first looking at it. Major table goals are only ever hit by the one ramp leading to BoP's head, culminating in a chance for 1 billion, basically negating any comparatively little points you score any other way.
I loved it until I reached all goals, then I dropped it completely... absolutely nothing drawing me back.
The older tables are different in that they haven't been able to reliably emulate those ROMs yet. But apparently are working on it. Once that's done, they should play (at least) slightly differently, closer to the real table.
I loved it until I reached all goals, then I dropped it completely... absolutely nothing drawing me back.
May not have. Aside from graphics (and the older tables like Black Hole and Gorgar) the PA and PHOF tables are different in that one is entirely scripted by the FarSight guys and the other is emulating the arcade ROMs. So, rules/modes may be missed completely (though I doubt that happened, it's an example of what COULD), bugs not exist that make the game more "real", that sort of thing.
The older tables are different in that they haven't been able to reliably emulate those ROMs yet. But apparently are working on it. Once that's done, they should play (at least) slightly differently, closer to the real table.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
MrTroubleMaker
Gold Member
MightyHedgehog
Member
Probably for the same general reason why the X360 hasn't seen a single update since launch, is missing the lighting from the PS3 version, and hasn't had a single DLC pack made available: PA is a bit rushed and clearly a work-in-progress. Would love to play the snappier-feeling and -looking X360 version once again, but PS3 wins for now, even with the laggy flipper on Ripley's and the underwater speed of Cirqus. Also, BoP has an annoying camera script bug where the there's regularly a failure to hand off from the plunger cam to the normally-centered game camera on the playfield until you can force ball back into the plunger or initiate the Bride's face zoom and then revert to normal.
Mister Zimbu
Member
Because I'm terrible with money I ended up double dipping and buying all the DLC for the PS3 version.
Did the physics change between versions or in the latest patch on the PS3 version? I'm scoring a lot lower than normal- on the 360 I could consistently score 2 billion+ on Theater of Magic but I haven't even broken 600m yet on the PS3 version. It might just be that I'm not used to the controller yet, though.
Did the physics change between versions or in the latest patch on the PS3 version? I'm scoring a lot lower than normal- on the 360 I could consistently score 2 billion+ on Theater of Magic but I haven't even broken 600m yet on the PS3 version. It might just be that I'm not used to the controller yet, though.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Yeah i have noticed that the PS3 version still has some delay compared to the 360 version.
I own:
-TotAN
-Theater of Magic
-Medieval Madness
-Bride of Pinbot
Thinking about buying Cirqus Voltaire too, I played it a lot when it was the free table of the month.
A lot of people love TotAN, I think it's a good table but it didn't grab me as much as the others (I mainly bought it because it was $1). Theatre of Magic and Medieval Madness are classics and I would consider them must-buys.
Bride of Pinbot is fun but it's not an easy table - it's one of those tables that doesn't let you shoot again if you lose a ball withing the first five seconds of a turn, and it is super easy for the ball to accidentally end up in the side gutters. Shaneus is right that it probably doesn't have as much replay value as some of the others because the only real goal is to make it to the Billion Point Club, but it's not easy to get there and it's incredibly satisfying to make it to The Metamorphosis and what comes after it. I still think it's worth getting.
Black Hole has a neat gimmick but I can see it wearing thin after a while because that's literally all there is to it. Gorgar is pretty simplistic and doesn't have that much depth.
I find Black Hole to be a grower. It's pretty tough and you gotta be wiser about where that ball is going to go.
I hear people talk about Grogar in a positive light, but I find it frustrating. So many times can your pinball fall right down the middle into the gutter after you launch it. You need to be good at tilting, which is something the iPad version sucks at.
I hear people talk about Grogar in a positive light, but I find it frustrating. So many times can your pinball fall right down the middle into the gutter after you launch it. You need to be good at tilting, which is something the iPad version sucks at.
I really can't decide if I want to purchase this or not. I've played the Arabian Nights and Theatre of Magic mutliple times but can't stand Ripleys or Black Hole.
I wish there were more tables on the EU store to download. Actually, I wish you could just download the base for the game then mix and match any tables available that you preferred as DLC.
I wish there were more tables on the EU store to download. Actually, I wish you could just download the base for the game then mix and match any tables available that you preferred as DLC.
Minsc
Gold Member
Star Trek - The Next Generation video, I think they're working on it to get ready for TNG kickstarter sometime soon (queue the whining about fixing bugs, launching DLC, etc). It should have a slightly lower total than Twilight Zone, because that one had some extra funding.
Even if you've no interest of backing the project, the video's still a good watch at around 2:30 and beyond, to get a little history on the intricacies of the Star Trek table, and some of the unique things about it.
Even if you've no interest of backing the project, the video's still a good watch at around 2:30 and beyond, to get a little history on the intricacies of the Star Trek table, and some of the unique things about it.
Hey look I found one for $7k (and I wasn't even specifically looking for TAF, just pinball tables in general). Must be a bargain!
Also I found this, which looks hella-fricken awesome.
Delusibeta
Banned
Can't help but feel this has been a bit of a shambles so far. Farsight seems to have fallen on its face on pretty much every opportunity so far.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Shipping from Australia to California is probably going to close that gap really fast, though.
Good news about TNG, though I still wonder how these co-funded tables are going to be officially released on X360 and PS3. Are these standalone tables or are they paired with another table, like they've been so far on consoles?
Maastricht
Member
Yeah, we've been discussing it in other Vita related threads.
Personally, I was skeptical but I'm finding I love the Vita version, despite some basic niggles. You can play in portrait mode, but I love using the shoulder buttons for flippers so much that sacrificing them isn't worth the slightly better table view. And I have to say the camera works quite well anyway (using the second lowest angle). Love the way this works with multiball much more than the Zen Pinball solution I've been used to so far.
Gillian Seed
Banned
I am all over this one! I really hope our 360 update is coming really soon!
Thanks, watching now.
I know I'm using a Linux laptop and all, but are the video and audio not synchronized in this video?
BigWeather
Member
Yeah, at least on the 360, which hasn't seen a single one of the three pairs of tables thus far released.
added_time
Member
Yeah, it's been total crap so far. I'll keep buying the tables on 360 for now but I'll most likely be switching to Wii-U or PC in the fall when those get released. It really seems like Microsoft makes the small developers jump through hoops to get any content released at all.
plagiarize
Banned
i hope they haven't forgotten about Tate mode too. it's really annoying not to have that.
BigWeather
Member
Word is it isn't just a Microsoft issue, however, but rather that Farsight is trying to deliver new tables as updates (with the tables unlockable from there) rather than the approach Zen took with delivering new tables as DLC. I really wish they'd get it sorted, though, I can't stand the thought of losing another promising platform (Game Room being the first).
plagiarize
Banned
so i've been watching videos of Stern's new X-Men table and i'm thinking they need to hurry up and add this while the licensing is less of a nightmare. it looks fantastic. almost makes me wish i had $7000 or whatever to spare.
Minsc
Gold Member
Bad news for 360 fans (are there any left at this point?) MS is throwing down the hammer again:
They seem to do much better on iOS/Mac/Android and PC (if it would ever come out), where the review periods aren't so lengthy. Sucks, but it's out of their hands I guess. Now to see if we get DLC pack #5 to be announced before any DLC hits the 360, the 'lead' platform
The Pinball Arcade said:
They seem to do much better on iOS/Mac/Android and PC (if it would ever come out), where the review periods aren't so lengthy. Sucks, but it's out of their hands I guess. Now to see if we get DLC pack #5 to be announced before any DLC hits the 360, the 'lead' platform
Fucking hell. Weren't they holding it off until a particular sale or something? Or am I thinking of something else?Bad news for 360 fans (are there any left at this point?) MS is throwing down the hammer again:
They seem to do much better on iOS/Mac/Android and PC (if it would ever come out), where the review periods aren't so lengthy. Sucks, but it's out of their hands I guess. Now to see if we get DLC pack #5 to be announced before any DLC hits the 360, the 'lead' platform
added_time
Member
It's almost getting comical at this point.
I guess I'll definitely be switching my platform of choice to Wii-U or PC just like I said. It's just a matter of time and at this point, I'm very used to waiting.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I think Farsight has said that Stern's tables of the last few years use new electronics that they don't have emulation technology for yet. They haven't begun inquiring about the licensing for them. However, they've said they're 'working' on it, in regards to getting around to emulating the new Stern hardware.
The biggest problem Farsight appears to have right now is that they're over-extended. They're supporting this project on many platforms, each with different user interface standards and finicky bits. Even Zen, over on their side of the fence, has had to delay the rollout of Zen Pinball 2 on just ONE brand of platform (Sony) several times because of further testing require.
Thank heavens MS caught that one. I can't imagine the consumer backlash if they'd released the update in that condition.Bad news for 360 fans (are there any left at this point?) MS is throwing down the hammer again:
They seem to do much better on iOS/Mac/Android and PC (if it would ever come out), where the review periods aren't so lengthy. Sucks, but it's out of their hands I guess. Now to see if we get DLC pack #5 to be announced before any DLC hits the 360, the 'lead' platform
Gillian Seed
Banned
Bad news for 360 fans (are there any left at this point?) MS is throwing down the hammer again:
They seem to do much better on iOS/Mac/Android and PC (if it would ever come out), where the review periods aren't so lengthy. Sucks, but it's out of their hands I guess. Now to see if we get DLC pack #5 to be announced before any DLC hits the 360, the 'lead' platform
That sounds really stupid! Anyone with half a brain should know that pulling out Memory while loading is a huge no no. So does this sound like this will be another month long wait?
Dreamwriter
Member
The full version lets you play the DLC tables too. You can play any table without buying it, but the game ends the moment you reach a certain score.
When I select the DLC tables in the full version, it says "This table is part of a 2-pack collection and is not abailable as a trial version." and the only options it gives are Unlock Collection and Cancel.
Hmm, looks like I can't download the demo separately either, since it's the same as the full game. Anybody know how I can demo the DLC tables?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Zeni-Max has way more money than Zen and Farsight.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Bad news for 360 fans (are there any left at this point?) MS is throwing down the hammer again:
They seem to do much better on iOS/Mac/Android and PC (if it would ever come out), where the review periods aren't so lengthy. Sucks, but it's out of their hands I guess. Now to see if we get DLC pack #5 to be announced before any DLC hits the 360, the 'lead' platform
WHAT THE HELL
PA has really managed to make my respect for Farsight, which I held in such high regards and always recommended to pinball fans, take a nosedive so deep that I'm starting to doubt it'll ever recover.
Can't beleive I'm saying this but given the current state I'm not going to back the ST:TNG kickstarter.
You guys really can't begin to understand how disappointed I am :-(
I mean, these games are killer apps to me, the equivalent of Joe Schmoe's Halos and whatnot.. it really stings!
Dreamwriter
Member
Eh? You're blaming Farsight for Microsoft's stupidity and crazy submission processes?
Minsc
Gold Member
You're really going to hold them to ill will over not testing what happens if you remove a memory card while loading the game from it (and why pay all that money when MS didn't complain about that error before, it existed before and they submitted previously without being told about it...)? Heh. Well, you're welcome to move on to the other pinball sims that companies are producing I say! If only there were any! Really though, from reading this is just how things work with MS. Zen Studios had even more trouble than FarSight is having now, and they had prior experience with it, which FarSight lacked (lol). I think realistic expectations going forth are 2-3 DLC releases a year of 4-6 table packs on consoles, and monthly packs elsewhere.
Dreamwriter
Member
What version are you talking about? The iOS version doesn't do what you describe.
Farsight has consistently failed to deliver a product that works within the ground rules laid down my microsoft.
Plenty of other companies have been able to deliver DLC on 360. Farsight has so far proven to be complete incompetents.
Minsc
Gold Member
What reason could MS have for failing to inform FarSight their product which they paid to be reviewed failed to properly function when a memory card was removed while being accessed the first time it was submitted?
Baron_Calamity
Member
Watch the pc version become a windows 8 gfwl exclusive as well and struggle with the same. Issues again.
Whoops, probably should've mentioned that I have the Vita version. LOL
Considering they've danced around the Steam question, I'll bet they have something even dumber in mind.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I thought I heard that Valve out right refused them because pinball games don't sell on steam.