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The Poted Shoot-Em-Up Triggerheart Exelica Official Thread
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memecomplex
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Pimpbaa said:
Hey, hey, way to throw your morals around. That's just a bit extreme isn't it?
I think there is a difference between actual pedophile art and the relatively tame Exelica loli art. Exelica is more 'moe" than sexual.
Japan is a child-like nation and it is only natural that they represent their heroes/characters as more child-like compared to the Western mean. And in Japan, a nation with relatively ambiguous morals compared to the West, sexy is often times = cute. So you can be sexy and cute without spiraling into depravity. Although there are those who choose to take that path. But most normal, healthy Japanese otaku won't see it that way. Cultural differences my man!
Thanks, that's very interesting and useful information.slidewinder said:
I didn't even realize for most of my playing time that the boss patterns depended on the number of medals collected. Should make my 1cc try a lot easier.
Yeah, I was also playing like that up to now, but the information regarding the multiplier would seem to discourage this.monoRAIL said:
I tried it for one game, but I came to the same conclusion you did: it's not worth it. After a few games you always hit whatever you want to hit with the auto-swing anyway. The only thing I'd like as an improvement is if you could influence the initial direction of the auto-swing in some way.monoRAIL said:
FWIW, I'm enjoying this game a lot more than Omega Five.
memecomplex
Member
Hey anyone know how you get to fight Faintear on level 1 and 3?
How the hell are you going to leave out the kings of gods, G.Rev? They easily rival Cave and their games are far better than any memory-puzzle Treasure calls a shooter.Bebpo said:
It is an unfortunate trend that has taken over "hardcore gaming" in Japan. It's in all shmups, and every doujin game now is competing to be the most "moe." It's too bad, really. Feels like the devs have no confidence in their skills and feel that they must include that shit to get people to play their games, and that's just so far from the truth.Pimpbaa said:
memecomplex
Member
aku:jiki said:
It's a trend, and the Devs themselves probably like it. I don't think it's a question of confidence. But yeah, "moe" is going to be with us for sometime.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Beat the boss with a shit ton of medals. I think I fought her with 2000~2500 medals on the first boss.memecomplex said:
memecomplex
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Princess Skittles said:
Cool thanks, I'll give it a go.
memecomplex said:
I don't know...there's "moe" then there's gratuitous panty shots. Maybe panty shots aren't weird in Japan, but here we aren't into panty shots and racks on pre-pubescent girls :lol
but w/e, it's about the gameplay. I have accepted that shmups have really strange art...
"Easily rival Cave" isn't the term I'd use, but they're definitely pretty awesome. At least, Border Down is amazing and Under Defeat is really good. Mamoru-kun looks kinda sloppy, but I'd be surprised if it turns out as shitty as location test videos would lead me to believe. I love Senko no Ronde, too, but that's pretty far from a shooter.
Treasure is kinda middle of the road, though, yeah.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
ESPgaluda please.womp said:
what's that one old arcade shmup where you can choose teams of 3 and some of the teams are cops and some of them are criminals? That game fucking rules.
anyway, now that I've done my part with THE and Omega 5 (and soon to be Ikaruga), I'd like to see a shmup resurrection on the 360.
I mean, how much can these games possibly cost to develop? They sell for full price in Japan, where they sell out of the whole printing, and then the code just sits there, so they should port all of them.
anyway, now that I've done my part with THE and Omega 5 (and soon to be Ikaruga), I'd like to see a shmup resurrection on the 360.
I mean, how much can these games possibly cost to develop? They sell for full price in Japan, where they sell out of the whole printing, and then the code just sits there, so they should port all of them.Dark Octave
Banned
Just thought I'd share my thoughts on THE, real quick.
I played the demo last night and I passed on buying this. Good music (I like the boss music), and the graphics were a lot better than I thought they would be. Gameplay was fun and very familliar. The weapons are both my style. As a shooter fan, the game was good but not different enough from what I already have elsewhere, but unique for someone who only has XBLA. I'm also holding out for Ikaruga.
In the end, the deciding factor was the level being so short for only having five levels total in the whole game. Omega Five has only four levels, but the character moves so slowly through it, that you get more game time for each stage. THE's first stage ended too quickly for my taste.
I played the demo last night and I passed on buying this. Good music (I like the boss music), and the graphics were a lot better than I thought they would be. Gameplay was fun and very familliar. The weapons are both my style. As a shooter fan, the game was good but not different enough from what I already have elsewhere, but unique for someone who only has XBLA. I'm also holding out for Ikaruga.
In the end, the deciding factor was the level being so short for only having five levels total in the whole game. Omega Five has only four levels, but the character moves so slowly through it, that you get more game time for each stage. THE's first stage ended too quickly for my taste.
Dark Octave
Banned
That game is awesome. What about Hot Dog Squad?RyanDG said:
Edit: Nevermind. From what I recal, HDS kinda sucked.
Mamesj said:what's that one old arcade shmup where you can choose teams of 3 and some of the teams are cops and some of them are criminals? That game fucking rules.
anyway, now that I've done my part with THE and Omega 5 (and soon to be Ikaruga), I'd like to see a shmup resurrection on the 360.
well, we know Ikaruga is coming and i heard there's a Raiden game (rumors) too. but i hope we get some classics like DonDonPachi and GigaWing along with Sengoku Cannon 2 and Raiden Jet Fighters. there's just not enough shmups out there!
Tain said:Yeah, I kinda jumped the gun on that one. I blame slow page loading.
Really, though, it's a weird move. Won't that be the first non-arcade game they've developed? Save maybe Steep Slope Sliders, but I don't remember if that was an arcade title or not.
Actually, Cave is the primary developer on Shin Megami Tensei: IMAGINE. Unfortunately, working with good monster designs on that project didn't prevent crap like Pink Sweets or that stupid loli-goth shooter.
As for Trigger Heart, it's alright. I'd put it in the middle for DC shooters, with GigaWing 2 and Mars Matrix being at the top, and crap like Gun Bird 2 and Under Defeat at the bottom. But then again, I love bullet-hell shooters and hate (HATE!) traditional ones.
LiK said:well, we know Ikaruga is coming and i heard there's a Raiden game too. but i hope we get some classics like DonDonPachi and GigaWing along with Sengoky Cannon 2 and Raiden Jet Fighters. there's just not enough shmups out there!
Raiden Fighters Aces is a disc compilation of Raiden Fighters, Raiden Fighters 2, and Raiden Fighters Jet along with an INH superplay DVD of all 3 games for the Xbox 360. I'm looking forward to it myself... I'm hoping that someone in the US gets brave and brings it over.
Dark Octave said:
Each time I read "the demo sucked, not buying it" I die a little inside. Stages 3,4,5 will keep you more than busy. They are really freaking good.
and most shmups have like 5-10 stages anyway, so I'm not sure how "too short" is a valid complaint.
yes! That's the one. so cool. It even had branching paths.
Dark Octave
Banned
They need to talk with SquareEnix about getting Einhander ported. But to be honest, I'd rather see that go to PSN.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Probably not, Square-Enix doesn't want their games on download services.RyanDG said:
PepsimanVsJoe
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Well I broke 65 million and reached partway through the 5th stage.
The leaderboards look so very far away.... =(
The leaderboards look so very far away.... =(
Dark Octave
Banned
I'd say 8 levels is average. But those extra 3 or 4 levels makes a huge difference IMO. That's like an extra half of the game almost. Even if they just made the 5 levels they had, last a little longer, I would have made a purchase (I am of course assuming that the other 4 levels are as short as the first one).Mamesj said:
But I will look further into it and youtube level 3 later tonight. If it's as good as you say it is, then I'll spend $10. I really do wanna support 2D shooters on 360. I just don't wanna be stuck with something I'll breeze through in less than 20 minutes my first play through.
Dark Octave
Banned
Your actually right about that. How long have we been screaming and kicking for a FFVII remake on a next gen console, yet they keep releasing other things and even an expansion/re-do of FFXII. Nobody asked for that. Give us a new FFVII!Vaxadrin said:
A new Einhander wouldn't hurt either. Probably take 6 months to a year for them to finish.
Mamesj said:
Yeah, that's it. I can never remember the romanization for it.
Dark Octave said:
I actually prefer shorter shooters. What's fun about playing shooters to me is shooting for perfection (1CC or high-score) and overcoming the insane challenges thrown at you. Typically if a shooter takes more than about 30 minutes to finish I don't stick with it very long. It takes me too long to get back to where I died last time and I don't feel like I'm making progress (see: Gradius V). Definitely part of the reason why GW2 and ESPGaluda are my favorite shooters.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Vaxadrin said:
FFX-2 is great actually. I'd take it over 3 out of the 4 games you listed.
Dark Octave
Banned
Since there is no save feature in shooters. Good point. I can agree. At the same time though, I have also played shooters to where almost every level is so fun, I looked forward to diving in again, no matter how long it was. I guess for me it depends on the game.alske said:
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Older Square fans generally do NOT want a Final Fantasy VII remake.Dark Octave said:
Dark Octave
Banned
I personally would rather have a sequel to Advent Children in the form of an RPG but all I hear is cries for a remake. I haven't heard too many people who said they didn't want one. Maybe I haven't been paying attention to them.Princess Skittles said:
Dark Octave
Banned
Exactly!Vaxadrin said: