Physiognomonics
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Almost certainly. they would have announced it if 1 million copies were sold.
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The Saros Numbers are in!!
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clarky
Gold Member
I don't think they have ever made a sequel have they?
CentralScrutinizer
Member
The market continues to speak. Very few people are willing to pay $70 for a roguelike / roguelite. It is an indie genre that is only viable at indie prices. Sony needs to STOP scoping everything to be a $70 game.
If you stripped out all the forced story segments and solely focused on developing a game that was 100% gameplay 100% of the time and charge $40 max for it, it'd be a huge success.
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Physiognomonics
Member
No, they (stupidly) haven't. I am talking about Resogun which is their best game.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
And they shoehorned the cinematic stuff to make it pass off as something else, just like Ninja Theory tried to disguise a walking sim as an action game.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
I do think Housemarque would be finding more success if they had remained independent vs whatever Sony is trying to do with them.
Viruz
Member
It's 80€ here, as much as I want to play it, there is no way I'm paying that much.
willothedog
Member
stardust and super stardust?
Duchess
Member
Aye, £60 in the UK. I'll wait a bit.
It's a good game. More people should check it out.
The gloating over bad sales numbers and obsession with anything that has a minutia of "woke" in it is dragging the discourse on this board down.
I do think it's fair to wonder whether a AAA $70 roguelike was the best idea. I think Housemarque will get another game but it'll be something closer to the narrative heavy games we've seen from Sony's other studios.
The gloating over bad sales numbers and obsession with anything that has a minutia of "woke" in it is dragging the discourse on this board down.
I do think it's fair to wonder whether a AAA $70 roguelike was the best idea. I think Housemarque will get another game but it'll be something closer to the narrative heavy games we've seen from Sony's other studios.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's 80€ here, as much as I want to play it, there is no way I'm paying that much.
I said it before I'll say it again, they killed the game by pricing it that high. Should have been a $60 game.
geary
Member
They are fucked by Sony, the same Obsidian was fucked by MS with 70$ and 80$ for Avowed and Outer Worlds 2.It's 80€ here, as much as I want to play it, there is no way I'm paying that much.
These are not games for 70-80 dollars/euros...This is how you destroy a developer.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Everything except the most important number...
How many players managed to get cucked by their recently turned lesbian wife?
BigBeauford
Member
Wait, but how many dogs were pet?
phant0m
Member
Story & world? No
'Style' yes. Rogue-like 3D bullet hell, colored projectiles, etc.
Sales for Returnal weren't gangbusters either, only sold ~1M after year. Game style is too niche with too high of a skill floor.
Less than 10% of players actually beat the game
Anywho, wouldn't be surprised if this is $40 by holiday or even on PS+ Premium
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geary
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Aside from the complete nonsense of these metrics, it's kind of unsettling that companies know so much about how we play a game. The amount of data they collect about your style, habits, and gaming patterns is pretty alarming.
I think $40 would have been even better.
Saber
Newd Member
Theres not enough info in this graph. Who cares about copies sold, the most important numbers are missing:
- How many cuckoholds died?
- How many wives turned into a lesbians?
- How many lesbians?
- How many friends called you partner when you just called them a friend?
- How many gay affairs players had?
- How many male drunk abusive paterns players experienced?
- How many cuckoholds died?
- How many wives turned into a lesbians?
- How many lesbians?
- How many friends called you partner when you just called them a friend?
- How many gay affairs players had?
- How many male drunk abusive paterns players experienced?
drotahorror
Member
Bisexual Indian protag just didn't have quite the pull they expected.
W/e Housemarque I used to be your biggest stan, you reap what you sow.
W/e Housemarque I used to be your biggest stan, you reap what you sow.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Sony is on fire lately. Just not the good kind.
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sloppyjoe_gamer
Member
With the woke cuck story and cutting edge gorgeous character design like this, i can't imagine why the sales have shit the bed. We'll let the man woman in the game's facial reaction tell the whole story on the sales
Solarstrike
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Arjun is the first original male protagonist PlayStation Studios has introduced in the PS6 generation.
I think they got the message loud and clear: never make a male protagonist again. Stick to Mary Sues, girlbosses, and Mary Sue girlbosses.
I think they got the message loud and clear: never make a male protagonist again. Stick to Mary Sues, girlbosses, and Mary Sue girlbosses.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
The obsession starts at the Housemarque drawing board and follows with the progressive heads at SIE. The "public discourse" is the last step of the ladder and the logical consequence of what came before.
Obviously it wasnt.
And this is why it failed and will keep failing. It's Sony's blueprint that cursed it.
These bad decisions, the pricing and the cuck drama story, are the direct result of a woke committee meddling in Housemarque's creative process. It's impossible to disassociate both in any honest assessment of Saros's failure.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I just wonder how many millions it cost them to gather that data, find the right photos and then post them.
There were likely people in a boardroom nodding their heads thinking, "fuck yeah, we did a good job!" And then the huddled around a laptop as one person clicks the "post" button.
asdasdasdbb
Member
Saros is currently on the 6th page on US PSN.
To give you an idea, Marathon is on the 5th.
To give you an idea, Marathon is on the 5th.
Like most people, I have zero interest in playing this game.
It looks great, sounds great, I'm sure it's polished and has good controls. It reviewed well, got all kinds of accolades.
But the genre is sado masochism.
Most people aren't into that freak shite. If Sony thinks this is the way to do business, they must be really confident and feel very safe to spend that amoumt of money and reseources on a tiny audience like that.
It looks great, sounds great, I'm sure it's polished and has good controls. It reviewed well, got all kinds of accolades.
But the genre is sado masochism.
Most people aren't into that freak shite. If Sony thinks this is the way to do business, they must be really confident and feel very safe to spend that amoumt of money and reseources on a tiny audience like that.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Finland is a pretty expensive place I believe. So cost difference is not likely to be that large vs CA. Salaries would be lower, but have to pay in € and more taxes/benefits to pay for.
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
He ate the forbidden fruit
AndrewRyan
Member
Sony should shit-can everyone at Housemarque who's there to make movies and stick to making the best damn 3D bullet hells ever invented. Cut the motion capture, acting & writing and the game is only $30 and sells like multi-platform hot cakes.
DragonNCM
Member
Flop......after flop......after flop & I don't know how much flops they can handle....they are not Xbox with infinite money pool.....
That's right, they would have made a Battle Royale game if Sony hadn't bought them.
Housemarque's new multiplayer game Stormdivers sounds like a battle royale
Housemarque's new multiplayer game Stormdivers sounds like a battle royale
The first game of Housemarque's post-arcade future will be Stormdivers, a multiplayer game.
www.eurogamer.net
Yes, soon Sony will have to "make difficult decisions".
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Zathalus
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It's an absolutely massive difference in salary. Median salary for software developers is around 80k vs 165k, basically double. Tax burden is mostly carried by employees, not the company.
European software developer salaries are a fraction of those of west coast America. Not just Europe, Japan, SK, China, etc...
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Emmy Ator Best
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Bojji
Member
But it was in top 8?!
US #4
UK #4
Finland #3
Poland #3
Norway #3
Ireland #4
Portugal #5
Germany #4
Sweden #3
Czech Republic #4
Hungary #3...
coffinbirth
Member
Sadly, I'd say there's ZERO chance it made its money back if it has sold less than a million copies.
Probably hasn't even cleared its marketing budget yet.
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Moondoggy
Member
I see some people saying it didn't sell well because it's a rogue-like, I don't really understand this statement seeing as how Hades and Hades 2 exist, the bigger problem with this game aside from all the divisive narrative stuff is it fails at being both a rogue-like and an action game, it's not a full on action game cause it has rogue-like elements, but it doesn't really feel challenging like a rouge-like is suppose because they not only put too much weight on the feedback that Returnal was "too difficult" and made Saros too easy, but then gave you mechanics within the game to make it even easier so it fails to really nail the "struggling to persevere" aspects of a rouge-like.
I played Returnal on PC and while I've played harder Rouge-like games it's definitely not an easy game, by comparison I was able to beat Saros casually over 1 weekend playing it on a friend's PS5 while I was pet sitting at his house, once you die the handful of times the game's progression seems to require to roll out all of it's mechanics it kinda just quits being hard at all.
I played Returnal on PC and while I've played harder Rouge-like games it's definitely not an easy game, by comparison I was able to beat Saros casually over 1 weekend playing it on a friend's PS5 while I was pet sitting at his house, once you die the handful of times the game's progression seems to require to roll out all of it's mechanics it kinda just quits being hard at all.
MrAlwaysRight
Member
Hardly a shock, it's the same game as Returnal with a worse story, they should have just made Returnal 2.
