Ugh I wish people would stop doing this. Not liking something doesn't mean it's "outdated" and it's such a disingenuous term to use anyway.
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The Spoony Experiment
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Ugh I wish people would stop doing this. Not liking something doesn't mean it's "outdated" and it's such a disingenuous term to use anyway.
Typographenia
Member
I personally prefer FF10's turn system to FF12's real timey stuff, but I was way better at micromanaging in 12 than doing straightforward stuff in 10, haha.
That FFXIII review was awful
It was filled with nonsensical complaints and endless nitpicking. Note, i'm not a FFXIII fanboy but he should be spending more time complaining FFXIII's actual flaws instead of spending minutes a time bitching about how Snow can beat enemies with his bear hands.
It was filled with nonsensical complaints and endless nitpicking. Note, i'm not a FFXIII fanboy but he should be spending more time complaining FFXIII's actual flaws instead of spending minutes a time bitching about how Snow can beat enemies with his bear hands.
Thamauturge
Banned
I can't understand why he said that in the XIII review because in a couple of his VLOGs he was talking about how he liked XII and didn't understand why some of the fans did not. With this knowledge + the knowledge in the XIII review, we can assume that he liked XII overall but disliked Vaan.
XII is a great game, I don't really want to see him bash it...
Having not played FF13, i had to stop watching it for this reason.
Mind you i'm not against some nitpicking to spice the humor up, these reviews are meant to be funny in the first place, but if there's anything but pointless nitpicking, it's just boring.
I'm sure in there there were some valid points, but halting the review every two seconds to ask "how does she know she can beat this giant machine?" or "why does she just stands in front of the deadly laser?" was not funny at all.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I actually dislike FFXIII heavily but I agree. To me, FFX's non-active turn-based system was loads of fun and made battles like Yunalesca and the final boss (not the final final boss) very exciting.
Yeah, these two comments stood out the most to me as just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking rather than trying to say something funny about the game.
I hope he focuses more on the dumb writing and dialogues in the future parts.
Watched enitre FFX episode. It was really great stuff, had some laughs. It didn't seem forced and fake, so that is why I liked it I guess.
I really liked FFX back in the day so I was interested to see how this review will end. He ruined my memories lol, listening to that review it really sounds like pure trash but back then I liked it a lot. Doubt I would play it again so it was nice going through this detailed review and remebering stuff - hence he smashed my nostalgia lol.
When it comes to Tidus he didn't annoy me at all back then, neither does now(that much). His mix gender look is annoying (even back then) but I don't think he is a horrible character. And when it comes to girls not liking Tidus or that type of look(even if his look at times doesn't represent proper human) , I have to disagree. Young generation chicks are all over that shit. Just look at Justin Bieber.
I really liked FFX back in the day so I was interested to see how this review will end. He ruined my memories lol, listening to that review it really sounds like pure trash but back then I liked it a lot. Doubt I would play it again so it was nice going through this detailed review and remebering stuff - hence he smashed my nostalgia lol.
When it comes to Tidus he didn't annoy me at all back then, neither does now(that much). His mix gender look is annoying (even back then) but I don't think he is a horrible character. And when it comes to girls not liking Tidus or that type of look(even if his look at times doesn't represent proper human) , I have to disagree. Young generation chicks are all over that shit. Just look at Justin Bieber.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
It's been repeated over and over in this thread, but just for people who just stumbled with this thread, his SWAT 4 playthrough is nice.
Yes, it's glorious. LMAO.
Link1110
Member
And Phantasmagoria 2 as well
You must be new. It's for humor similar to Nostalgia Critic.
Spieler Eins
Member
As someone who had no experience with FF8, the review was mostly useless for me. I only had little experience with FF10 and remember really liking the review, even though the skits are usually horrible.
Enosh
Member
he goes on a whole rant about how those nitpicky details bother him, so that's why ^^
Just watched FF XIII Part 1. Really fantastic, and yeah you can tell by like his delivery and content that he's really been influenced by Plinkett; I'm just talking about how you can tell before the robe bit. That part is clearly an homage or reference to Plinkett at the end with the Jedi stuff I'm guessing.
Really good though, can't wait for part 2.
Really good though, can't wait for part 2.
I watched the first two episodes of Demo Reel and I really don't get it. It's just one long sequence of bad skits and when it comes to online reviewers, thats the only thing that no one has gotten right.
I really hope he manages to bounce back since it seems like he spent a whole a lot of money on these new shows.
They got/rented a full huge studio and hired two or more actors (full time) and in the end Demo Reel just lowered their viewers. (many fans stopped going to the site now there is no NG)
I hope he can survive this but I really doubt they can recover from it since it seems that the Walker brothers keep ignoring the fans and kept the show going thinking it will improve(it didn't even with the tons of cameo in the last episodes).. Demo Reel might really kill TGWTG/Channel Awesome.
Zero-Crescent
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It may have been in a past Vlog or an old Tweet, but I believe he mentioned before that he liked FFXII. He hated Vaan, of course, due to his annoyingness and his tenuous connection to the game's main plot (The designers were constantly trying to invent reasons for Vaan's continued involvement in a story driven primarily by Basch and Ashe).
Enosh
Member
his skits were always one of the worst things about his reviews (same with pretty much all internet reviews tbh, I am looking at you game overthinker, why the hell do they all fancy them self to be great actors), I have no idea how he tough he can sustain a whole show made only of them and kill of nostalgia critic for it
only going to tgwtg for todd and maybe once in two months that nostalgia chick puts out something decent, the vampire reviews are nice too
only going to tgwtg for todd and maybe once in two months that nostalgia chick puts out something decent, the vampire reviews are nice too
oh..thanks for the info.
Well yes, Vaan is very unlikable and was unnecessary to the FFXII plot and events, 12 should've been Balthier story.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Good taste in gaming.
Constant positive feedback and the ability to ban/ignore criticism.
Mister Zimbu
Member
I too was annoyed with all the nitpicking in this one. Yes, it was there in the FF8 and FF10 reviews, but it wasn't nearly as prevalent. At least he addressed it at the end. It is funny as long as it's not overdone (which it was in this case).
I much prefer the "outdated" (not really) turn-based systems to the gigantic strategyless clusterfuck battle systems that are trending nowadays (FF12/13/Tales/Xenoblade/etc.)
FFX had by a wide margin the best battle system of any FF game. It was the only one that actually had you thinking a few moves ahead.
I much prefer the "outdated" (not really) turn-based systems to the gigantic strategyless clusterfuck battle systems that are trending nowadays (FF12/13/Tales/Xenoblade/etc.)
FFX had by a wide margin the best battle system of any FF game. It was the only one that actually had you thinking a few moves ahead.
Meccanical
Member
Battles in FFX didn't really require much thought...unless you mean the character switching thing.
If that's any consolation (and I know it's not), the same goes for French reviewers. They might be interesting, they might make some good points, but they're all crappy actors with skits that feel gimmicky at best, and they never seem to know the line "brevity is the soul of wit". I suppose taking actual acting lessons and working on all aspects of your videos is too much to ask. It's not like those people don't wanna work either, because clearly those videos take time and effort, but the acting bits universally fall short.
I think it's marketability. Anyone can be a floating head spewing hyperbole about video games on the Internet. What makes people stand out is personality and when you do skits, bad as they might be, you develop a character that fans can latch onto. I mean, moreso than in the review itself.
Typographenia
Member
One of my favorite reviewers is Film Brain because he doesn't water his show down with a lot of asides and skits. He gives great reviews, is often very funny, and doesn't treat the viewer like a child. (found it very shocking when the followup to the spoony/filmbrain crossover had them making light of people hating on film brain; never would have thought so many people didn't like him)
That said, I certainly enjoy skits and things from time to time, but if they're too long or not very good, that becomes an issue. Spoony can be really good or really bad when it comes to his skits, so I usually put up with the bad when it happens.
This will probably sound like blasphemy, but I never really cared much for that Dizzy Gillespie action figure stuff. It was amusing for a few moments, but that skit lasted like friggin' seven minutes or something. Just get on with it!
That said, I certainly enjoy skits and things from time to time, but if they're too long or not very good, that becomes an issue. Spoony can be really good or really bad when it comes to his skits, so I usually put up with the bad when it happens.
This will probably sound like blasphemy, but I never really cared much for that Dizzy Gillespie action figure stuff. It was amusing for a few moments, but that skit lasted like friggin' seven minutes or something. Just get on with it!
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I think he was going for hyperbole, because I think in the FF10/10-2 review he did say that he liked FF12? I can't remember.
I have to wonder if he was going against the wait times between attacks due to the ATB bars filling up as opposed to the positioning given in the next breath he talks about the Death Ray and how Lightning's so stupid that she runs headfirst into it.
And yet some of those same people elect to use the auto-battle command. I would have loved a gambit system in FF13 for the sake of my characters prioritizing stuff that I think they should prioritize rather than the stuff they think they should prioritize (ex: Use a Cure rather than an Esuna at certain circumstances, Defenders should aggro away from other party members in the case of an AoE attack, Use offensive buffs first as opposed to defensive buffs, use a defensive buff when ally < 30% HP, prioritize AoE defensive buffs over single defense buffs, prioritize imperil, when HP < 20%, get the fuck away from your enemy and attack from afar, etc.). I like micromanaging a lot, and the macro stuff ended up making me pay attention to attack animations and timing for said attack animations (ex: cast speeds, how quick a monster's going to animate before I should execute an attack, encouraging synergy with two faster people + one slow-casting saboteur, etc.) since there's nothing else to pay attention to, which ends up making the game easier than it should be... I guess... *shrug*
Something like a Tales strategy board or a gambit system would've worked really nicely. But considering they were going for an Advent Children-esque cinematic feel with easy-to-access play for people who want to see pretty shit, I guess they didn't want to make it complicated?
Shame. Because it would have been more engaging if it did have positional awareness.
You'd be surprised to how much depth in terms of strategy there could be in those systems if you look for them and start paying attention to such things as animation speeds, timing, party synergy for combos (with regards to Tales), and cancelling attacks.
Meccanical
Member
I will always prefer more action oriented systems in games, simply because nothing engages me in a fight more than actually being engaged in a fight.
The thing about action RPG combat, is that such a system is easy to get wrong and requires careful planning to get right.
Suddenly a lot of different factors come into play that were never a concern in turn based battle systems.
The thing about action RPG combat, is that such a system is easy to get wrong and requires careful planning to get right.
Suddenly a lot of different factors come into play that were never a concern in turn based battle systems.
The Dutch Slayer
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Internet high five! FB is awesome.
you can really see that is the stats to:
Napalm_Frank
Member
Oh man I can't staaaand Film Brain :d. He is the Jar Jar of internet reviewers for me.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Some of his complaints might be right or I could agree. Complaining why there's a rocket launcher on a military train? Stupid.
I hate his FF rants because most of his complaints can be translated to any game out there or any other JRPG out there.
(most) Videogames are silly, yeah, we got it, thanks.
I took one look at the preview for it and I thought it looked like a really shitty version of that movie with Jack Black where he tries to remake all the movies because he accidentally erased them all.
I've barely been back to NC's site since he decided to kill off NC, which was pretty much coming because it wasn't as good as it used to be. All the rest of the reviewers, I don't really care for.
I don't know. I agree that they're doing it for a reason, but I wonder at what point the added personality bits become a liability. I do believe that when one part is bad enough it's just useless fat that needs to be cut off. Do people on this thread ever talk about Dr. Insano and the robot? Do AVGN fans (which I am) ever talk about the nerd's skits with Bugs Bunny and the Joker (except to say that they're useless and/or irritating)? Does TGWTG's voice (which I find highly irritating) really resonate with people? It's funny when it's kept to a minimum and is in line with the reviewer's persona, but is most of it really necessary to appeal to people and create a fanbase (rather than deter current and potential viewers from watching any longer)?
My point is: stuff like poor FX can be fun, everyone can find enjoyment in them, but -- and maybe it's just my personal pet peeve -- acting and voice are an entirely different beast. Even when the fact that these people are amateurs is taken into account, nobody likes bad acting. We're only willing to suffer through mediocre performances when we know the people involved, because we then have a frame of reference that allows us to find them funny. It's essentially the same problem any aspiring comedian will encounter: they might be a riot at a party with their friends, but once they go on stage they're met with silence because nobody knows them and the jokes have to stand on their own. I don't know Noah Antwiler, James Rolfe and Doug, so I can't laugh to their skits because they're not good enough on their own (except AVGN's angry rants, got a few laughs out of me, he's the better actor of the bunch).
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Pretty much how I feel too. I still like TBS (turn-based systems), but I've noticed that I've started to like ARPG-like combat more lately. I find that it's more engaging, and I like having to think quickly on the spot. There's nothing more thrilling than that.
But sometimes you have blasé ARPG systems which don't do much at all in terms of fun (ex: mash one button over and over again; you don't need to block because the game's balanced the HP numbers in your favour; difficulty settings mean nothing).
That's certainly a valid point. Whenever he gets into why some gameplay mechanics are silly, then I resonate with the review more.
Internet high five! FB is awesome.
you can really see that is the stats to:
wooha..Doug is really killing the site with Demo Reel.
man this is sad
I guess Spoony jumped ship at the right time then.
yes after NC I only go there for FB and Todd (who only post like once each month or something) and from reading their forums many other don't visit it anymore too.
Never really cared for the Nostalgia Critic stuff, but I saw this and decided to check out that Demo Reel show and...yeesh. It focuses on the worst parts of the internet reviewer stuff, the acting and production values. No wonder viewership is way down. Spoony getting out may have been a blessing in disguise.
Meccanical
Member
Exactly. Earlier KH games had this problem bad.
Good thing KH2FM added critical mode and that fixed all the problems with the combat in my opinion, and Birth By Sleep was great.
I always watched Spoony's videos at his own site, since they were published there about a week or two ahead of whenever TGWTG decided to put them up.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah me too. I'm saying he's lucky he doesn't have to pay a piece of action for being on Doug's site now, which is pretty much long gone.
Yeah, he jumped ship at the right time.
According to a podcast/vlog whatever, Doug had asked him to move to Chicago to be a part of it, but Spoony declined.
I suggest listening to his commentary on that new movie they did. I remember him saying that he saw how this all was going to pan out, and that this wasn't the right direction for internet "personalities" or whatever; basically he thought if they go that way it wasn't going to last. I'm not sure if it was id, since he was laid off right at the time and he was trying to save face, but it is looking to be more and more true.
Meccanical
Member
Ha ha, yeah we should!
I hope KH games can keep the difficulty as it should be, having open environments to fight in leaves room for a lot of fun challenges and great player agency, but it has to be balanced well and designed correctly.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Birth By Sleep critical was pretty bad compared to FM+, it made the game weaker compared to proud. Haven't tried DDDs.