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The Unpopular Opinions Thread: GAMING EDITION

Kintaro said:
Dyack was right. A one console format future should happen.

So it would make sense that we would choose the most widely popular this generation and call it the One Console. Yay Wii!

I know this is the unpopular thread but the one console is the worst idea ever. Could you imagine being at the mercy of one console? All of them have problems. Thank god for choice when it comes to consoles.
 
I like Halo, but I certainly wouldn't say that I love the series, and being a long-time PC gamer, it doesn't really do anything to impress me.

That said, ODST is probably my favorite if only because of the fact that you're the little guy and not the big ol' Master Chief.
 
Kintaro said:
You speak as if games don't suck a lot now. Give me a break.

Then don't game. I think there are tons of great ones now. So many I don't have time for them and that is a good thing. SNES was a great system but it kind of sucked for us who grew up with it because there was a long wait for really great games. Now I have a queue that is 30 deep.

Again, thank god for all the consoles and handhelds because while they have flaws I still have a lot of choice.
 
There is going to be a no console (in the sense that you won't own the rendering unit) future, with a number of providers (probably the same three plus many more).
 
Parley said:
So it would make sense that we would choose the most widely popular this generation and call it the One Console. Yay Wii!

I know this is the unpopular thread but the one console is the worst idea ever. Could you imagine being at the mercy of one console? All of them have problems. Thank god for choice when it comes to consoles.

One console format. A developer forum would work with hardware developers for a format spec. Then hardware would be made by companies. DVD and Blu Ray have done it. I don't see the problem here.

The idea is no worse than the current situation. Of course, if you like seeing developers drop like flies, more power to you.

Parley said:
Then don't game. I think there are tons of great ones now. So many I don't have time for them and that is a good thing. SNES was a great system but it kind of sucked for us who grew up with it because there was a long wait for really great games. Now I have a queue that is 30 deep.

Again, thank god for all the consoles and handhelds because while they have flaws I still have a lot of choice.

If sucked for you because you were a kid who had no money to buy games. I rented games all the time and played as many great games then as I do now. Now you're older and free to overspend money on games to the point you can not play them all. You're going to sit there and tell me you have a backlog of 30 truly great games? How do you know they're great when they will most likely sit there in some sort of backlog that you will never have time for?

Never put two and two together there?
 
Kintaro said:
One console format. A developer forum would work with hardware developers for a format spec. Then hardware would be made by companies. DVD and Blu Ray have done it. I don't see the problem here.

The idea is no worse than the current situation. Of course, if you like seeing developers drop like flies, more power to you.

No one needs to know the logistics of implementing it. No matter what was developed it would have many problems.

Here is another unpopular opinion. I don't mind when studios close. While it is unfortunate when it happens and it sucks for the families involved many studios aren't generating the revenue to stay open.

Bizzare is a good example of a studio that got the shaft despite good talent. I am sure many of them will resurface elsewhere in the industry having learned from the experience and we will all benefit from it.
 
- Final Fantasy XII is the greatest game in the series even thought it has a weak story.
- Final Fantasy Tactics story is not great. Its awful.
- PSP is better JRPG system than the DS.
 
Kintaro said:
You speak as if games don't suck a lot now. Give me a break.
They don't, in fact this time is the best in history to be a gamer; it appears to me that you have been looking for games for you in the wrong place.
 
Kintaro said:
One console format. A developer forum would work with hardware developers for a format spec. Then hardware would be made by companies. DVD and Blu Ray have done it. I don't see the problem here.

The idea is no worse than the current situation. Of course, if you like seeing developers drop like flies, more power to you.

If sucked for you because you were a kid who had no money to buy games. I rented games all the time and played as many great games then as I do now. Now you're older and free to overspend money on games to the point you can not play them all. You're going to sit there and tell me you have a backlog of 30 truly great games? How do you know they're great when they will most likely sit there in some sort of backlog that you will never have time for?

Never put two and two together there?

I had plenty of money. That wasn't the issue.

How about this since you missed the point. I read reviews, forums and listen to podcasts. Based on that I put games on a list that I think I might like. Based on past experience I say I like most of them and I think half of them are great. While some end up sucking my success rate is pretty good.

So let me repeat, since you want to be a literalist who intentionally misses the point of an argument just to say something. I have played many great games this generation and based on research and past experience I have a very high likelihood of playing more.
 
manueldelalas said:
They don't, in fact this time is the best in history to be a gamer; it appears to me that you have been looking for games for you in the wrong place.
I don't think you know what you are tryin to say. when Uncharted 2 is the best game of the generation you know this generation isn't the best.
 
- Motion controls > traditional controls in pretty much all 3D genres.

Beil said:
Easily. I played it first and absolutely fell in love with the revving/buster mechanics. Then I tried the others and was like "oh, is that it?"

I've played them in order of release. DMC -> DMC3: SE -> DMC4 (PC Edition).

Seriously the hate with this game is unbelievable. DMC3 REALLY wasn't that good. I find the fact that people complain about the backtracking in DMC4 to be pretty ridiculous also, because DMC3 had plenty of backtracking as well (though admittedly not as much).

Beil said:
People on NeoGAF actively lie about negative experiences with motion controls.

I can confidently say that a majority of complaints on GAF, the complainers haven't either given akin time or even tried whatever they are complaining about.
 
I never like the Gran Turismo series; I did play some of them because of peer pressure and popularity but I never ever enjoyed them...too much arcade blood in my veins
 
Syril said:
Ooh, I've got one: I feel that there are one or more aspects of Demon's Souls that could use improvement.

I don't think even the biggest fans of Demon's Souls would argue against this. I love the game - I think it's hands down the best game this generation, however there's some parts of it that could use improvement. For starters, the soul payout from enemies is extremely unbalanced. Why does everyone in world 4 give an extraordinary amount of souls compared to everywhere else? The death penalty is meaningless since you can easily farm TONS of souls from 4-1.

Enemy AI is easy to exploit as well. Cast poison cloud (or any DoT) on someone before they aggro (or cast it on them and run away until they de-aggro) and you just killed a difficult boss for free. There's a bunch of tiny little problems like that.
 
manueldelalas said:
They don't, in fact this time is the best in history to be a gamer; it appears to me that you have been looking for games for you in the wrong place.

Not at all. I play many great games as well. However, that doesn't mean the amount of sucky games released hasn't gone down any this generation compared to any other. The only thing that has changed is the fact that releasing a merely "good" game can be the death of a company. Great sign of industry health.

Parley said:
I had plenty of money. That wasn't the issue.

How about this since you missed the point. I read reviews, forums and listen to podcasts. Based on that I put games on a list that I think I might like. Based on past experience I say I like most of them and I think half of them are great. While some end up sucking my success rate is pretty good.

So let me repeat, since you want to be a literalist who intentionally misses the point of an argument just to say something. I have played many great games this generation and based on research and past experience I have a very high likelihood of playing more.

The SNES was a poor system to pick to attempt to make your point because the SNES was in a console war from the word go. So, attempting to say that the SNES wasn't full of great game was silly. Even using the NES (like someone else) was silly.

How would this, in any way, change with a one console format? It wouldn't. Great games would still be released. You would still play them. Except for the fact one wouldn't need three consoles and two hand-helds cluttering up your space (thus saving you a thousand bucks to put towards...more games).

As I get older, its just silly. Somehow people put up with three consoles and two handhelds, a PC and iOS stuff to play all these games, but they would get up in arms when two competing home video formats go head to head? Silliness.
 
faridmon said:
I don't think you know what you are tryin to say. when Uncharted 2 is the best game of the generation you know this generation isn't the best.
IMO Uncharted 2 is not the best game of the generation, in fact, I've played A LOT of games that are more compelling to me than Uncharted 2.

This generation we've seen most genres shine, and the best part of it, is that we can play games from all of the other generations, and that's awesome.
Kintaro said:
Not at all. I play many great games as well. However, that doesn't mean the amount of sucky games released hasn't gone down any this generation compared to any other. The only thing that has changed is the fact that releasing a merely "good" game can be the death of a company. Great sign of industry health.
Ok, this is stupid, what has the number of sucky games have to do with anything? YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY SUCKY GAMES!.

The other part of your argument is also bad. I've seen a lot of companies this generation surge making little original games; and I have seen some companies fail because of making mediocre games in oversaturated genres. I don't see the bad part about it.
 
I got one:
Tekken is inferior to the Virtua Fighter Series

I did not like Tekken 6 at all, jsut felt like I played it all before
 
Plinko said:
The term "casual gamers" should also apply to the large group that plays only Halo/Call of Duty and Madden.
Undoubtedly. And don't get me started on regenerating health!

Also, this = unquestionable truth

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StuBurns said:
There is going to be a no console (in the sense that you won't own the rendering unit) future, with a number of providers (probably the same three plus many more).

This. Something Onliveish.
 
The Half-Life series barely has a story let alone a good one, 30+ hours of play can be summed up in a couple of sentences. Dog and Alyx are both annoying and just serve to hold up gameplay.

Bioshock while promising is full of stupid design decisions that make it a chore to play (shallow pockets which can't hold enough ammo to take down a big daddy, vitachambers)

The above two franchises should study STALKER and Deus Ex for future installments.

MGS 1-4 should each be considered among the top 10 games of all time

Empire: Total War is slow and monotonous

Resistance 1 is the best game to come out of Insomniac since Spyro 1
 
B3il said:
Undoubtedly. And don't get me started on regenerating health!

Also, this = unquestionable truth

http://i.imgur.com/BITmX.jpg

It's exactly like I said before. 3D game design today is far inferior to how it was ten years ago or more.

Deus Ex, Half-Life, and Banjo-Kazooie all have far more complex level design then pretty much any 3D game released this generation.

Embarrassing.
 
the uncharted games are just more boring third-person shooters with one skin-swapped enemy and boring standard weapons and a throwaway story and purposeless 'platforming' sections.
 
Tain said:
I never really agreed with that, yeah. A game like Halo has significantly more skill involved than something like Bejeweled/Passage/World Of Goo/Canabalt/whatever, so I never thought there was anything casual about dedicating a lot of time to it. And if you're applying that label on Halo players today, you might as well slap it onto the Starcraft-only or Quake-only guys in the 90s, who were anything but casual.

I would also apply the 'casual' term to them as well.
 
Here's one I always wanted to say:

All the people who claim to suffer motion sickness from gaming. It's in your head. You read articles on how Japanese gamers suffer from it and now you've internalised it. Get over it and stop ruining my shakey-cam and headbob effects.

Also Valve games are seriously over-hyped. Except for Portal.
 
Zenith said:
Here's one I always wanted to say:

All the people who claim to suffer motion sickness from gaming. It's in your head. You read articles on how Japanese gamers suffer from it and now you've internalised it. Get over it and stop ruining my shakey-cam and headbob effects.
That is just not accurate. The effects of 3D sickness can be reduced and removed greatly by changing aspects of the game, the FoV etc.
 
LOL at developers who think video games = ART. Most of them are insufferable blowhards who think that imitating films will automatically make a game better. Hint: they're called video GAMES for a reason.

B3il said:
Also, this = unquestionable truth

BITmX.jpg

:lol :lol :lol
 
I played alot of games in elementary school and middle school, but I never owned a SNES. I stopped playing because I got busy with stuff in high school. Then in college, one of my roomates introduced me to LoZ: ALttP and I got hooked. He then showed me FFIV, FFVI, and Super Mario RPG and I was hooked. I have spent thousands of dollars on new games, consoles, and ancillary devices to support my gaming (new TVs, controllers, and nerdy gaming SWAG).

All of those four games were pirated emulations. If not for piracy, I would not be a gamer right now, and I would not have purchased all that gaming stuff.

And in spite of that. I hate piracy and those who do not pay for games.
 
Zenith said:
Here's one I always wanted to say:

All the people who claim to suffer motion sickness from gaming. It's in your head. You read articles on how Japanese gamers suffer from it and now you've internalised it. Get over it and stop ruining my shakey-cam and headbob effects.

What? This is one of the silliest things I've ever read.
 
Zenith said:
All the people who claim to suffer motion sickness from gaming. It's in your head. You read articles on how Japanese gamers suffer from it and now you've internalised it. Get over it and stop ruining my shakey-cam and headbob effects.
DOOM on PC was making me feel sick long before those articles were written. Hell there was barely an internet at all when I was playing!
 
I always regret buying the GT and Forza games even though I bite every time. I like the graphics and presentation of those games, but an hour in and I kind of wish I was playing something like Ridge Racer (when it was good) or Motorstorm instead.
 
Dax01 said:
Well, seeing as how I just got finished with part of Minerva's Den last night, and Tip of the Spear in Halo Reach, no it is not accurate in the slightest. :lol

There are exceptions here and their but you cannot design that FPS level design (and 3D level design in general) has become insanely simplistic compared to its toddler years.

As for Reach =, well I can't really comment on something I haven't played.
 
Exploration or navigating the levels themselves is no longer an obstacle in first person shooters, it's all about combat now. Love it or hate it I guess.
 
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