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The Walking Dead Season 2 SPOILERS Thread!

I dunno, Kenny has too many fuck ups for me in Episode 2 for me to had spared him. He reminded me of Lily from S1.

Jane's handling with the baby is questionable but she's done too much good for Clem in comparison to Kenny. I feel that she has a better shot with Jane than Kenny, despite the baby being in questionable hands.

I don't regret my choice at all and the cliffhanger just makes my S3 wait all the more tantilizing.
 
I thought Nick was the new Ben, but then - suddenly - Bonnie.

And Jane seemed a heck of a lot like Molly.

Yeah, she really did remind me a lot of Molly, and I felt Molly was the worst character in the first season. Wasn't really a difficult choice between Jane and Kenny for me. And seeing the different endings, I liked the way it ends with Kenny the best.
 
I kept accidentally calling her Molly, lol. Jane's still a way better character than she was though, something about Molly was really jarring and to me made for the weakest episode in season 1.
 
I had to put Kenny down too, I love the man but he's just too much of a liabillity, the man's too broken to function in groups.

I wanted to tell Jane to fuck off after what she did I felt my chances are better if I stayed with her.

I wish there was an option to "lie" and say you forgive Jane when you're really just using her to survive.
 
Finally got around to finishing the final episode. I ended up shooting Kenny and leaving Jane by herself. So many feels, man. Felt even worse after seeing the good Kenny ending.

I really wish Luke had made it. He was my favorite newcomer from season 2.
 
Could be wrong but I think it was a day and a half to get there by car. Because the car was stuck in a ditch they had to walk, so it took longer.

No, it took a day and a half to walk back to Howe's yet the time skip for Clem/Jane ending to get back, was 9 days. According to Kenny earlier in the pickup truck talking to Clem, they had 1-2 days supply of baby food (that I assume was taken by Bonnie, Mike, and Arvo).

The ending for them surviving with low/no supplies is so badly written.

Yeah, she really did remind me a lot of Molly, and I felt Molly was the worst character in the first season. Wasn't really a difficult choice between Jane and Kenny for me. And seeing the different endings, I liked the way it ends with Kenny the best.


We only knew Molly for only one episode (ep 4)... She was a loner and ep 4 had so much other things to focus on, so it isn't like there was a way for her character to rise off the ground.

I repeat, the fact that everyone chooses that Kenny's ending is the best ending, shows Telltale's lack of character development and good writing for season 2. I hope they learn something by season 3.
 
Last words from Kenny when he tried to convince me to get into Wellington told me I made the right choice. Never gonna leave you, bro, even if you are going insane.

EDIT: Also, I was pretty pissed I couldn't take a shot at Arvo when they were leaving on the truck. I was ready to fucking kill him.
 
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Well, I just finished the episode and Lord I wanted to cap Bonnie, Mike and Arvo so badly. Assholes, all of them. I'm tempted to replay from an earlier save just to get Bonnie popsicled. The worst kind of evil in these times - wishy washy. Ugh.

Shot Kenny, he was too far gone and was a severe liability. Jane got to stay, but I'm treating like I'm lying to her just to up the survival chances for Clem and AJ. I was very unhappy at the baby bait and switch, even though I called it as soon as she walked in without AJ.

I'm still seething over Bonnie and Mike.

edit: the Lee/young Clem sequence had me legit grabbing my head. I thought I was going to cry.
 
I feels that S2 beats S1. Although I can't remember too much of S1, S2 was a roller coaster ride from the start.

It really was an amazing experience. I think it's the first game to actually make me emotional. I love Lee and Clem. The flashback was so good. I spent a lot of the game with my jaw on the ground and sighed in despair at many of the tough decisions.

Kenny has his moments but I can't trust him. He's like an abusive husband. One day he's going to snap and hurt people you love.

Fuck Arvo. I tried to help that little shit every chance I got. Wish we could kill him. Bonnie and Mike too. That whole part shocked me. Hopefully we can get vengeance in S3.

Don't see how they'll handle the completely different endings other than ditching Clem though. I went with Jane to the old place and accepted the family. There was enough bloodshed and unhappiness. I needed to believe that things could get better.

So yea A+ game. Really loved it. Think I'll wait until all episodes are released next time. Makes it more enjoyable.

I liked how there were pretty much no puzzles. There's no need for puzzles in the apocalypse. I just want more game changing decisions in S3.
 

lmao

ftfy


Also, was anyone else kind of put off by how much Kenny changed in his ending? I mean, they write him as basically broken and deeply violent up to the epilogue, then you get to Wellington and it's all rainbow's and butterfly's and shit. I guess what I'm wondering is, in Season 3, does anyone think the emotional damage from the past two seasons will keep piling onto new shit, or has he (somehow) worked past it.

It is slightly off putting/out of character, but Kenny was pretty obsessed with AJ throughout the end of season. Him flipping a switch at Jane's idiotic bait and switch seemed reasonable to me, and the more I think about it Jane sounds crazier for pulling a stunt like that on someone knowingly so broken and damaged.
 
Jane and Kenny are probably both bad for survival because they're seriously mentally unstable. But at least Kenny acknowledged it and was able to let go. Jane still totally has the "Clementine is my freaky replacement for my sister and I'm psychopathically clingy" thing going.
 
I didn't kill Kenny. First I thought fuck, but then the baby cried, and the ending with Kenny made me cry even more than with the ending of season 1 :(
 
Jane and Kenny are probably both bad for survival because they're seriously mentally unstable. But at least Kenny acknowledged it and was able to let go. Jane still totally has the "Clementine is my freaky replacement for my sister and I'm psychopathically clingy" thing going.

Kenny was like sooo much further gone than Jane. Or at least his gone is much more loud and violent and hers is quiet and sneaking away.

And he only acknowledged he was that way after being shot and about to die. Everything before that was a cycle of being an abusive dick to everyone and apologizing to Clem about it, over and over.
 
The alone ending being so shit is a fucking travesty.

Shooting kenny is eaily the best call if you didn't figure out jane's plan, but that means jane worked you over and there's no way to do anything about that. You just get to call her crazy, and walk away, to be rewarded with a 20 second cutscene that doesnt even resolve the main wellington plot.
 
The alone ending being so shit is a fucking travesty.

Shooting kenny is eaily the best call if you didn't figure out jane's plan, but that means jane worked you over and there's no way to do anything about that. You just get to call her crazy, and walk away, to be rewarded with a 20 second cutscene that doesnt even resolve the main wellington plot.
It was really obvious what Jane was planning.

The idea is fucked up but she was right about Kenny. He was far too unsafe to be around. I forgave her because everything she said was true.


edit: I had played 400 days but completely forgotten everything. Just rewatched some parts on YT and lol didn't realise we played as Bonnie.
 
I really wonder where they even had the alone ending take place since it stood out how all the snow was gone. Sorta reminded me of the season 1 scene at the end.
 
Based on reading this page It seems like I was almost the only one here who told Jane to stick it. Kenny had to go in the end as he was too far gone, but the result of Jane's experiment meant she just couldn't be forgiven.
Oh, and although I did enjoy S2 a lot, S1(and especially it's finale) was easily better. It's probably not by chance the 'flashback' with Clem and Lee was one of the best parts of this episode. :)
 
You know I didn't even notice Carlos was dead during the escape for some reason.

you didn't notice him getting shot and devoured by walkers, sending sarah into a frenzy, shrieking off into the woods and royally fucking the plan up?

Based on reading this page It seems like I was almost the only one here who told Jane to stick it. Kenny had to go in the end as he was too far gone, but the result of Jane's experiment meant she just couldn't be forgiven.
Oh, and although I did enjoy S2 a lot, S1(and especially it's finale) was easily better. It's probably not by chance the 'flashback' with Clem and Lee was one of the best parts of this episode. :)

The problem here is that you're 11 years old with a newborn baby in the middle of a blizzard. telling jane to go pound sand is suicide.

edit: I liked walking dead S2, but it was really, really hurt by having an 11 year old protagonist. A lot of the dialogue just doesn't really make much sense when a group is constantly relying on an 11 year old girl they just met to be the voice of reason, kill walkers, enact escape plans, etc.
double edit: Bonnie flipping out at you for failing to save luke is even more WTF when you consider the above.
 
It was really obvious what Jane was planning.

The idea is fucked up but she was right about Kenny. He was far too unsafe to be around. I forgave her because everything she said was true.


edit: I had played 400 days but completely forgotten everything. Just rewatched some parts on YT and lol didn't realise we played as Bonnie.

When Kenny killed Jane I forgave him because everything he said was true, he went a bit too far but he seemed happy just before we saw Wellington.
 
When Kenny killed Jane I forgave him because everything he said was true, he went a bit too far but he seemed happy just before we saw Wellington.
I watched the Wellington ending and yea that was pretty deep.

I like Kenny. I think he's a good guy. But he was pushed too far.

Jane seemed to be improving over the story.

I would trust Kenny with my life over Jane BUT I wouldn't trust him to not kill someone good.
 
I watched the Wellington ending and yea that was pretty deep.

I like Kenny. I think he's a good guy. But he was pushed too far.

Jane seemed to be improving over the story.

I would trust Kenny with my life over Jane BUT I wouldn't trust him to not kill someone good.

Yeah well, Kenny does always seem to fuck something up by being to aggressive even back in season 1 but that doesn't mean I am going to kill him or leave him behind, but if you did then you definitely have a valid reason .
I could never really trust Jane either.
 
Finished the game minutes ago, killed Kenny and got the alone ending. Been watching the other endings on Youtube and the Wellington ending seems pretty alright. The alone ending being Clem just walking into a herd of Walkers was a bit underwhelming. At first I thought she was back at were season 1 ended but I guess it just looked similar.

Overall I think it was an okay game, it felt like the first season had more characters but yet they were more memorable.

Only thing that really bothered me was Luke's death, it felt a bit cheap.
 
I really think Arvo was shook at the loss of his sister that I can't really blame his reactions. Mike was the only guy who treated Arvo worth a damn. Him also immediately responding to the baby is also a sign of his guilt. Guilt for letting so many people die because he fucked up, and anger towards Kenny makes someone do some fucked up shit. You could tell he regretted shooting Clem.

Mike...I dunno I don't think they expanded on him a lot. He means well, and is a generally good person from what i see. So I can't be mad at him getting shut down by Kenny.

Lukes grievances with Kenny isn't justifiable because Luke fucked up a LOT. Like a lot more than Bonnie. Him knowing he fucked up and coming to terms with it by the time the river scene happened is a pretty good coming to terms.

I think Nick got the short end of the stick really.
 
you didn't notice him getting shot and devoured by walkers, sending sarah into a frenzy, shrieking off into the woods and royally fucking the plan up?



The problem here is that you're 11 years old with a newborn baby in the middle of a blizzard. telling jane to go pound sand is suicide.

edit: I liked walking dead S2, but it was really, really hurt by having an 11 year old protagonist. A lot of the dialogue just doesn't really make much sense when a group is constantly relying on an 11 year old girl they just met to be the voice of reason, kill walkers, enact escape plans, etc.
double edit: Bonnie flipping out at you for failing to save luke is even more WTF when you consider the above.
You complain that everyone treats Clem like an adult, then complain when the choice I made is an impulsive one without foresight(like a child)?
 
Finished the ep, went with Kenny, and left with him after the safe haven wouldn't let him in... I figure, Kenny trusts me (Clem) and have known him the longest.. you don't give up on that kind of trust. Jane was fucked up for trying to send him even deeper by hiding the baby, and I wouldn't want to hang around someone that insane in a zombie apoc.

So I guess I got the good kenny ending.. yay.
 
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The problem here is that you're 11 years old with a newborn baby in the middle of a blizzard. telling jane to go pound sand is suicide.

edit: I liked walking dead S2, but it was really, really hurt by having an 11 year old protagonist. A lot of the dialogue just doesn't really make much sense when a group is constantly relying on an 11 year old girl they just met to be the voice of reason, kill walkers, enact escape plans, etc.
double edit: Bonnie flipping out at you for failing to save luke is even more WTF when you consider the above.

She's 11, but, mentally she's probably a looot older. Many people don't believe are shocked to learn she's 11, they all think she's much older.
 
Guess I'm in the minority. I let Kenny kill the girl. Yeah he's fucking nuts but I know he'll never hurt Clem or the baby. That girl could've bounced on me at any point shit gets real. I didn't enter the compound. After carver there was no way I was entering another potential concentration camp without an adult.
 
Guess I'm in the minority. I let Kenny kill the girl. Yeah he's fucking nuts but I know he'll never hurt Clem or the baby. That girl could've bounced on me at any point shit gets real. I didn't enter the compound. After carver there was no way I was entering another potential concentration cap'n without an adult.
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Damn right.
 
I remember it was either a dialogue option or something that Jane said in Episode 5: "We're all that's left". I couldn't leave Jane after that sentiment. It was monumentally stupid what she did but is Clementine supposed to strap the baby to her back when she's fights zombies or something? And how will she lift heavy objects? She'd be screwed without an adult, and Kenny flipped out way too much to be reliable in a group (even though he never screwed up, dude had the BEST plans Season 1 & 2).

Plus, I had gotten too attached to Jane to shoot her. She came back when she could have left and she never yelled at Clementine and told her that so and so's death was her fault like Kenny and fucknut Bonnie did.
 
Kenny was right, but, he was also a jackass and unstable. He didn't listen to anyone, and it was all about him. If you stroked his ego, he would be loyal, if you didn't he hated you.
 
I dunno, Kenny has too many fuck ups for me in Episode 2 for me to had spared him. He reminded me of Lily from S1.

Jane's handling with the baby is questionable but she's done too much good for Clem in comparison to Kenny. I feel that she has a better shot with Jane than Kenny, despite the baby being in questionable hands.

I don't regret my choice at all and the cliffhanger just makes my S3 wait all the more tantilizing.

I just don't understand this. I think the episodes being released so far apart exaggerates the amount of time the game actually covers. Clem knew Jane for six days and she didn't even talk to her for the first one. After the big time jump at the beginning the main part of the game takes place over about 15 day with a 5 day jump in the middle. Then there's a 9 day jump after once you choose Jane, Kenny, or alone. Clem knew Kenny much better than anyone else and there's never been a time were he ever put her in danger the way Luke and Jane did at the souvenir shop.

I also don't understand how anyone thought going back to Carver's was a good idea. As far as they knew there were still people there who wouldn't be happy to see them. Why would they assume it's safe or that there were still supplies they'd have access to?
 
Just finished it. I never watched or read anything else about TWD than the games.

Shoot Kenny and went with Jane because this is about survival and even if the Wellington thing was real it could be ruled by another "Carver" right? Just like some people here have mentioned it, TWD games show that people are even more dangerous than the walkers. Larry (Lily's father), Lily, the St. Johns people, the old people of savannah, Michelle (the girl that kills Omid), the military men that took Christa, Nick, Bonnie, Carver, Arvo, Mike, etc. and I bet i'm forgetting people. Now that I think about I wonder if someone have the count of how many people of my teams have died by walkers and how many by people.

Jane is not like them. First she was 100% right that some people do not want to be saved and sure, she would left me if I become a dead weight but I would the same to her if she become one. For example, If there was any chance to get rid of the baby I would do it. I never cared about Becca or Alvin and I really do not care about their baby (i'm in the 7% that did NOT held the baby) and of course it will slow me down or make me die. The situation was very different with Lee/Clem because in the outbreak of the walkers we just didn't knew what was happening, how long it was going to be, if there were safe places, etc. Basically we had hope and now I dont have. This is the reason I never watched the show or read TWD, things always get worse and worse.

Also:
1. I knew that everybody except for Clem was going to die and everybody died. No matter which ending you choose, both Kenny and Jane are efectively death and if there is a season 3 with Clem they will kill the one you left alive in the first minutes.
2. The most interesting character for me, Pete was killed after few minutes in the game.
3. Most of the characters where dumb, unreliable people and they just didn't fit into the game, like Sarah, after more than 400 days nobody have teached her anything? everybody just spoil her? Also I wanted to shoot Nick, Reggie and Bonnie more than Carver.
4. Talking about the dumb cast, it was so stupid that every person always asked to Clem what to do.
5. People die and nobody care about it. In the first season when people died you could see the cast being broken, for example after Lili shots Carley. Or after Ducky/Kat dies I remember talking with a broken Kenny about. This season every time someone dies the rest of the cast it's like: "oh one less of us" and then the story moves on. I understand why Kenny/Clem do not give a pickle about Nick and Carlos deaths, but Bonnie, Luke, Becca where friends of them right? and they just do not give a sh** about it.
6. Even then, they give the cast very few time on screen, few dialogues, that you do not really have time to bond with them.
7. There are parts where the plot is really really bad. Why would Bonnie and Mike run away with Arvo? lol it's really stupid. Let's say they know Kenny is a bomb waiting to explode and make everybody get killed, well Arvo is a disabled kid that is useless and consumes resources, anyone that had the guts to left Clem and the baby WITHOUT resources, would left Arvo too. But instead of that they give he the gun and then Clem get's shot and a couple of hours later she is like nothing happened to her. Or the shootout against the russians, they encircle my group in the open and after it nobody was killed but everybody of the russians? REALLY?

So in the end, for me the season 2 was nowhere close to the first season.

PS: With all the limited optins they gave us, they should give us only the Kenny finales, they just feel better and knowing that Kenny will remain alive would give me Hope again. Now that I know he is death I really care less for the third season.

PS2: Everybody, PLEASE watch the Kenny finales, just do it. I'm not going to change my decisions but those finales just feel better.
 
Just finished. Ended up shooting Kenny. Enough was enough. I had to talk him down off a ledge the entire game, and I as stupid as Jane's action was, everything beyond that proved she was an asset and a great survivor. Clem has grown a lot in 2 seasons, and I think she has evolved enough to know that her best chances for survival are in a group, and Kenny has clearly proven he can no longer function in one.

I also let the family in. Now it's Clems chance to form a group and possibly lead one.

My main problem with all these vastly different endings: Jane dead, Kenny dead, Go north, go south, going in, leave with Kenny - you just know it is all going to be entirely meaningless after episode 1 of the next season. That's actually my main problem with the series. Choices end up being virtually meaningless. If there is ever an either or choice to save and kill someone, well that person will just be dead shortly thereafter anyways.
 
I also don't understand how anyone thought going back to Carver's was a good idea. As far as they knew there were still people there who wouldn't be happy to see them. Why would they assume it's safe or that there were still supplies they'd have access to?

1. There were few people with Carver (at least I don't see many people).
2. The leader Carver was killed, plus Bonnie left.
3. There was an horde of thousands of walkers that night.
4. In the night, with breaches and without their leader the mens could just get killed and/or run in that mess.
5. Every assumption about Carver's place is the same for Wellington. As far as I know they could be ruled by people like Carver, remember that humans are more dangerous than walkers on this game.
6. The major reason for me was the cold. Humans can survive 40 days without food, 5 days without water, but out in the cold without shelter we would die in one night. I would go to some place warm for the winter and then start moving north to see if I find that "wellington" paradise people talk about.
 
I'm just going to say, Fuck Jane! That was some childish shit and I let her die for it. I figured that she may had hid the baby but as the fight went on I started to think its probably more likely that she left the baby to get away. I kept trying to stop the fight but at the I just let it happen. Knowing that Kenny would probably off himself at this point, I did it for him. He was lost.

I repeat...FUCK JANE!

Clem and AJ all the way.
 
I'm just going to say, Fuck Jane! That was some childish shit and I let her die for it. I figured that she may had hid the baby but as the fight went on I started to think its probably more likely that she left the baby to get away. I kept trying to stop the fight but at the I just let it happen. Knowing that Kenny would probably off himself at this point, I did it for him. He was lost.

I repeat...FUCK JANE!

Clem and AJ all the way.

Clem and AJ will now die 5 minutes into Season 3 because of you. I hope you're happy
 
I always held no regard for Clem's in S2 safety when making decisions because I always knew she'd end up fine anyway. I don't know if my "choices" were so meta in S1 (I don't think so) but it really didn't benefit the story at all when I just picked the most dangerous option every time.

Also Kenny would take a bullet for the kids without a second thought so honestly anger or not I feel like he would be the safer option in canon.
 
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