BruceLeeRoy
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If we made a thread about it being one of the best of all time I bet you would have posted in it.
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The Wii U is the weakest console for me
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If we made a thread about it being one of the best of all time I bet you would have posted in it.
I don't understand when people say stuff like this because technically every third party game is an exclusive to other platforms.
Games like Shadow of Mordor, Wolfenstein, Destiny etc etc all exist on the other platforms so how could it "destroy" their offerings? If anything going by this logic their enough games for the other consoles owners to swim in as well.
Nintendojitsu
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The opposite of shonuff.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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BruceLeeRoy
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You guys getting hung up on this makes me really puzzled on how you think any discussion about anything is started. Do you think all opinion emerges with no catalyst but as a thought striking your mind in a moment of serenity.
Who is it?
Well I think he meant first year output in its entire library.
No one denies Nintendo is one of, if not the top dveleopers. And since all their games are exclusive, and you only count exclusives for a system, then yea they will usually win.
But people look at an entire library when deciding what system comes off better.
Nothing wrong with liking the system's lineup and nothing wrong with disliking it either. It's always down to personal preference. Sure some people like to state their opinion as fact but it's nothing to go crazy over. Just enjoy the systems that you play and try not to spend too much time trying to ruin a system for someone else.
TalentBurke
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I wanted to say this...but you already beat me to it.
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It is only fair as the creator of this thread got all pissy with the "Wii u has the best games ever" threads as well and stated that as a reason to create this one.
Socom had 10 entries and Wipeout was on pretty much every console. Besides that
Other consoles are far weaker IMO (last-gen updates, iterations on last-gen IP, better versions on PC, etc). At least the Wii U is attempting new and interesting things and has far more interesting and higher quality exclusives.
But as with anything, this is just preference. Some prefer the Wii U's lineup to what the other two consoles are offering. And for those of us with a PC, it's even harder to justify any console other than a Wii U.
But as with anything, this is just preference. Some prefer the Wii U's lineup to what the other two consoles are offering. And for those of us with a PC, it's even harder to justify any console other than a Wii U.
ShogunDarius
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I'm not counting third party, i'm doing FP vs FP, I only let MH3 and Sonic into that list due to the contractual agreements. Nintendo have done more than both MS and Sony have. Especially Sony. And yes I do take Titanfall and DR3 into account on the Xbox side.
Yeah it's not going to be for everyone. It is helped a bit by the shortcomings of the other two so far aswell.
Imo, WiiU has been really enjoyable thus far, but I'm still waiting for that 'wow' moment. Saying that, it's far and away my favorite console since GC & PS2 and I've not had one disappointing game yet.
Imo, WiiU has been really enjoyable thus far, but I'm still waiting for that 'wow' moment. Saying that, it's far and away my favorite console since GC & PS2 and I've not had one disappointing game yet.
TalentBurke
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Yep, I meant each consoles entire library.
Originally Posted by TalentBurke
People keep saying this but the Wii U has been out two years compared to ps4/Xbox One. Why don't you do a fair comparison, compare the Wii U's first year releases to Sony and Microsoft's first year releases? Nintendo themselves said they're not competing with Miceosoft or Sony, why do people in threads do?
and even If I do that they still have it best
New Super Mario Bros. U
Nintendo Land
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (i'm counting this as its pretty close to being a exclusive as it can get)
Lego City Undercover
Game & Wario
New Super Luigi U
Pikmin 3
Pokémon Rumble U
The Wonderful 101
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
Sonic Lost World (counting this due to the contract between the 2 companies)
Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games
Super Mario 3D World (made it in on the last day)
that list outright destroys PS4 offerings, and beats Xbox easily too, and that's if you don't count Sonic and MH too. All of them within first year. And that list doesn't have some exclusives that I don't care for it in it too, like that karaoke game.
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BruceLeeRoy
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I never once tried to attribute peoples enjoyment of the system as a deficiency on their part or something that I thought was questionable on account of taste. I merely presented a opinion from someone that has grown up on Nintendo games and buys Nintendo systems for Nintendo games that doesn't feel the same way.
I hope I dont sound pissy. I have tried to avoid several things in life and one of them was definitely for no one to describe my behavior as pissy.
……forgetit
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Jak and Daxter and 6 games over 8 years, my point is it might seem completely reasonable to assume a franchise is coming, but franchises randomly disappear all the time, just look at Kirby who usually has games out the wazoo, but completely sat out the gamecube minus a spin off game for some reason. My point is there's precedents for it happening, so really you shouldn't be surprised when it does.
Magic Mushroom
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Strongest console for me. Bayo is GotY by a mile, W101 is awesome as well and 3D World and Tropical Freeze are fantastic platformers.
Add ZombiU, MK8, Pikmin, Smash and Captain Toad and you have the best system line-up. Next year looks good as well with Splatoon, Xenoblade and hopefully Fox and Zelda.
Add ZombiU, MK8, Pikmin, Smash and Captain Toad and you have the best system line-up. Next year looks good as well with Splatoon, Xenoblade and hopefully Fox and Zelda.
In what way is WiiU attempting anything new and interesting?
More Mario Kart, more DOnkey Kong, more Smash?
Spieler Eins
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It's pretty bad, yeah. And unlike the other machines, the Wii U is the opposite of future proof. PS4/Bone will get the games eventually, Wii U is about to end in 2016 max. Unless you happen to like every genre in existence, never had these years old multiplats/indie games on the gazillion of other platforms and generally don't care that the ambition and franchise variety even from Nintendo itself is a low as ever, this console really doesn't cater to any audience. Despite the ridiculous price (only ,,justified'' by the most redundant controller gimmicks ever), they almost exclusively tried to desperately keep pandering to Wii Fit moms, with lazy rehashing of minigame collections that once worked and weak 2D platformer entries for the first 2 years. And a handful of good niche titles doesn't help anyone, really. The 180 at this year's E3 was a little too late and clearly, the few decent looking titles now will still be spread until 2016 with tons of delays and droughts. You can blame marketing all you want, but you don't go from complete market domination to sub-GCN and Dreamcast sales levels, if you offered an at least decent product. Even the average Nintendo fans clearly gave up on this, since it won't ever get close to GCN LTD. And with titles like Bayo and even Donkey Kong all bombing horribly, it's obvious that even the existing userbase doesn't care for the console anymore. I guess this winter will again see some gullible outlets and articles suggesting the console for christmas because the writers liked Smash Bros. or something, but I think it would definitely better not to encourage Nintendo in being mediocre. (It's not even necessary to take other home consoles into account though, just looking at Nintendo's own 3DS makes the Wii U look pretty pathetic).
Because it feels like there is no point for me to participate in Sony related discussions, nothing I say matters and they are going the complete opposite direction software wise. In time it has been a steady decline with zero signs of changing towards a direction I like.
Yup. My "smell test" for new consoles is the five-game threshold. Once a system has five must-have exclusives, I'm sold. The Wii U hit that threshold a while ago, while neither PS4 nor Xbone have even crested the two-game mark.
Wii U better not die before Zelda comes out. Its 1 of 2 games I can say I really look forward to on the system.
Yup this is exactly how I see it. If the games aren't for you, then they aren't for you, everyone is going to have different tastes. If someone asked me if they wanted a Wii U but didn't like Nintendo games, I would tell them to definitely not buy one, as outside of the Nintendo games there isn't really much. But if you do like Nintendo games, it truly is one awesome console, and I've gotten alot of joy out of it. And it's sad to see people always trying to ruin a system for anyone, just got take a peek at what's happening right now in the Watch Dogs Wii U topic to see something truly sad, none of it is even on topic. It's the same for other systems also, if you don't like it, why spend so much time trying to convince others it's shit? If you don't like it, then you don't like it and that's fine, and it's great to express opinions about that, but I notice that some go out of their way just to make sure that other people hate it or try to shit on their experience. Wii U and other consoles really need an OT where people can truly converse, cause right now it seems every topic about anything devolves into the same shit where everything gets derailed from the topic at hand. Plus it would really cut down on the multiple Wii U praise topics as well, which have gotten to a ridiculous amount this past few weeks.
……forgetit
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Uhh yea....
What I mean is, I hope they dont kill off the Wii U before Zelda comes out.
Boombloxer
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Why? Because it has none of the other genres covered by 3rd parties?
Nah. They don't magically not count. Points stands.
I can play all of those games right now, and will have more fun with them than any of the games you named.
The budget on those games are as much a indie games that DOES TRY something new, which PS4 has plenty of.
While there is certainly something to be said for the limited appeal of the Wii U for those who don't really like Nintendo first party titles ("What's wrong with you" etc...) given that the Wii U's library is all but worthless for anything outside of that field, there's still no getting away from the fact that the titles it does have completely obliterate anything on the other two current gen consoles in terms of sheer quality (And the fact that Nintendo only actually release finished games on Wii U) and if you can't really get past the mascots or aesthetic or whatever to really appreciate that... then I simply cannot relate to you on any level you tasteless philistine.
No offense of course Bruce. You're an okay guy in my book otherwise
No offense of course Bruce. You're an okay guy in my book otherwise
PeakPointMatrix
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How about a nope. 3D Marios have always been platform defining show-stoppers. New never-before seen worlds and experiences. We got 3D Land 2, a nearly isometric, 8-directional, 4 player Mario game. A very good one, but not something I will every equate to Mario 64, Sunshine, or the Galaxies.
Mauricio_Magus
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ANd Im sure they are great games. But i cant keep playing the same game over and over and over.
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Ultimadrago
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Bruce: "It's odd to see all these positive threads being created about the WiiU as a console because my experience with it hasn't been like that at all. Let me make a thread sharing my side of it."
Hehehe. Well ain't that cute...
But it's WROOONG!
Killing the Wii U now would be one of the worst moves they could possibly make. Noone would trust them anymore, and it would screw over any chances they have at selling a product ever again. Anyone who wishes for them to end the Wii U now probably wants this anyway.
Well Xenoblade is defnitely going to make it in time, Zelda is kind of up in the air.
I'm just a little baffled by the fact that people were expecting a new Starfox, Metroid and Zelda within the first 2 years of the console's life. Ignoring the fact that there's no way Metroid would come out this soon after Other M's middling reception and that there's no reason to expect Starfox anytime anywhere at all at this point, there's no way Nintendo wouldn't come out with their biggest sellers first. Mario (2D for the money, 3D for the fans) is Nintendo's bread and butter, DKCR sold pretty well on Wii, Mario Kart and Smash Bros are very big names and then there are the Wii - (blank) games. The exceptions here are Pikmin 3 and the Platinum games, but Pikmin 3 had been in development for Wii already, so that wouldn't have been too hard to get on Wii U within a decent timeframe (whether nearly a year after launch is decent is debateble). Platinum is a third party deal, which is a different story too.
And this isn't even mentioning the 3DS, which has been getting a lot of games of it's own. Nintendo doesn't really have strictly seperate handheld/console teams if I'm correct, so there's a bunch of resources going into that too.
At least Zelda is coming, but we all know Zelda games have long development periods so it shouldn't come as a surprised it hasn't arrived within the first two years.
I won't go into the 3D Mario thing, I'll just say that technically 3D World is that 3D Mario game. I'm not necessarily saying it is or isn't a 'real' 3D Mario, but for all intents and purposes it's EAD's 3D Mario for Wii U.
So the problem here isn't that Wii U doesn't have a 3D Mario, it's that you didn't like it's 3D Mario, which is a different discussion.
All of this makes sense to me right now but I don't really know what I'm talking about so if it's all wrong you can ignore this.
And this isn't even mentioning the 3DS, which has been getting a lot of games of it's own. Nintendo doesn't really have strictly seperate handheld/console teams if I'm correct, so there's a bunch of resources going into that too.
At least Zelda is coming, but we all know Zelda games have long development periods so it shouldn't come as a surprised it hasn't arrived within the first two years.
I won't go into the 3D Mario thing, I'll just say that technically 3D World is that 3D Mario game. I'm not necessarily saying it is or isn't a 'real' 3D Mario, but for all intents and purposes it's EAD's 3D Mario for Wii U.
So the problem here isn't that Wii U doesn't have a 3D Mario, it's that you didn't like it's 3D Mario, which is a different discussion.
All of this makes sense to me right now but I don't really know what I'm talking about so if it's all wrong you can ignore this.
Arc Christelle
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I know how you guys feel. PS4's a wasteland of multiplats and indies to me, so I could give less of a damn. Xbox One tho, got some interesting first party ips and exclusives so I might bite on that next to go with my Wii U and PC.
family_guy
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Exclusives as in first party exclusives? You might be right, but there's a bunch of excellent third party games that you can't get on Wii U.
Im sure if the indies that PS4 have had the Nintendo name on it, you would be all up on it.
ShogunDarius
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no, that's not what i'm arguing, what i'm arguing is Microsoft and to a greater degree Sony haven't done enough first party wise this gen, especially when compared to Nintendo.
BruceLeeRoy
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While there is certainly something to be said for the limited appeal of the Wii U for those who don't really like Nintendo first party titles ("What's wrong with you" etc...) given that the Wii U's library is all but worthless for anything outside of that field, there's still no getting away from the fact that the titles it does have completely obliterate anything on the other two current gen consoles in terms of sheer quality (And the fact that Nintendo only actually release finished games on Wii U) and if you can't really get past the mascots or aesthetic or whatever to really appreciate that... then I simply cannot relate to you on any level you tasteless philistine.
No offense of course Bruce. You're an okay guy in my book otherwise
No offense at all.
I really don't mean to be getting people so upset by this. It is a thread born out of another Wii U owner with seemingly similar background with Nintendo as many other owners but with a different opinion.
I absolutely agree about the level of quality with a Nintendo game. Even though DKC and Mario Kart didn't light my world on fire there is something "solid" if I can say about a Nintendo game that not really any other developer achieves outside of maybe Valve.
I can count the amount of technical issues I have had with Nintendo games on 1 hand throughout my whole time with them. My nephew was showing me how Smash even allows you to play with a 3DS as a controller if you have one all in an effort to get as many people in on the fun as possible.
Yeah I have huge admiration for that. I mean lord people I bought the system at launch
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