JohnTinker
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I really don't think Retro's game will be there, unless its a launch window game (ie: releasing sometime before next E3).
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The Wii U Speculation Thread VI: The Undiscovered Country
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Well that certainly would be something.
-Pyromaniac-
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I don't think they'll show 3D mario AND side scrolling mario in the same conference, AS WELL as 3DS mario. That's a bit much. But as for what the mario title is for the wiiU, still leaning toward a revamped nsmb but it could be anything, who knows. Launch isn't for 6 months give or take.
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qizah
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Wasn't there a tweet from Retro about this year being crunch time or something? Maybe they'll have something to show, but it won't be released till next year.
Exterminieren
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If I may be permitted to go batshit crazy...
EAD Tokyo 1: 3D Mario WiiU, 2013
EAD Tokyo 2: Zelda WiiU, 2014
Aonuma's Group: Top-down Zelda, 3DS, 2012
MMMMMM.
They did in 2009, and the stakes were lower then. The 3DS version talk will sort of be rolled into the WiiU sidescroller talk.
EAD Tokyo 1: 3D Mario WiiU, 2013
EAD Tokyo 2: Zelda WiiU, 2014
Aonuma's Group: Top-down Zelda, 3DS, 2012
MMMMMM.
They did in 2009, and the stakes were lower then. The 3DS version talk will sort of be rolled into the WiiU sidescroller talk.
I know what you're saying but obviously I meant sheer graphical fidelity. As a software engineer and tech nerd myself I love well made hardware, but as just a gamer I want my games to look fucking amazing.
Fair enough. I gave up PC gaming years ago so all I game with are consoles now and so I need it to be a grunty as possible.
Well no way they can make anything as buggy as that PoS Skyrim, so they'll be fine.
I'm with you; let me upgrade more often. In fact ideally I want a console that is upgradeable.
-Pyromaniac-
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why though? I'm not getting these posts. What's the rationale?
People need to remember that this a CONSOLE LAUNCH E3. That automatically is enough for you to ignore any E3 from the past 4-5 years. It's also a console where Nintendo has been boasting about support, and content, and all that. Then you keep in mind Retro's game has been in development for quite a while, I think Nintendo will have no qualms showing games that are far away in some form or fashion. No one is saying gameplay of everything, but trailers, even teasers is something. Even a mention of it wouldn't be surprising.
I certainly wouldn't mind Koizumi returning to Zelda. He was the director of both OOT and MM, and was responsible for both Z-targeting and the 3 day cycle in MM.
Yup. Remember all the software Nintendo showed for 3DS two years ago? A lot of stuff that wasn't launch period at all. They will throw everything they can out there.
Shin Johnpv
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See the only issue with an upgradeable console is that then they cant program at really low levels. Since the hardware could be different. I just want faster turn around on the consoles.
I'd rather get reasonable modern tech every 5 - 6 years, than crazy tech 1 every 10.
Dreamwriter
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I'm more excited about the ability to not have game cases at all - I'm sure hoping Nintendo forces all developers to release digitally day and date, just like Sony is doing with the Vita. In fact, I wonder if the idea behind the Near Field Communication is to pacify retailers by selling NFC devices to make up for lost games...
Not really worth it in my opinion. Nothing unexpected or interesting there. Except that the physics are CPU bound, not GPU bound, as they'll probably be on PS4 and Xbox3. But even that tells us next to nothing at this point.
Eggplant Wizard
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Kind of a fast turnaround. What makes you think it'd be done so soon?
And I'd totally be on board for a Tokyo-developed Zelda.
oot had several main directors, but koizumi wasn't one. aonuma was director of oot, mm, tww, and tp. koizumi did the story for link's awakening, oot, and mm.
That's likely going to be the case as it was for Prime 3.
Smiles and Cries
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nice to see some news coming out a little
maybe this week won't be dead quiet after all
maybe this week won't be dead quiet after all
the handheld zelda team helped the console zelda team finish skyward sword after ph wrapped, but skyward sword was done in early 2011. a top-down zelda probably wouldn't take as much time to finish. however, according to what's been said, it'll probably be a 3d handheld zelda. yay.
maquiladora
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Hot Coldman
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If this is what it is... god damn. I need a 3DS :lol
I thought twice about it before posting the news and conclude that even if it doesn't give us something really new it's at least an interview about something real, with some details about the deal and which Havok features/engines the agreement is covering. And it comes with just enough to nurture©IdeaMan the hype with one or two teases here and there.
Not a big news but a news.
Koizumi was one of the 4 main directors along with Eiji Aonuma, Yoichi Yamada, and Toru Osawa. Aonuma and Koizumi were the 2 directors of MM.
nckillthegrimace
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I hope NSMB Mii has turned into something like this. Hopefully that's what all of that Super Mario 4 nonsense was about.
Fantastical
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1 GHz - 4 GHz processor? -3 GHz confirmed.
megarockexe
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The prediction of weekend leaks was almost right. This is exciting. It's nearing less than 1 week away!
Fantastical
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What leaked?
Apophis2036
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Exactly, we will prob get around 10 mins of actual Wii U exclusive game footage, if that at the Nintendo conference.
All the gameplay videos will come from the show floor the day after.
I hope they do an E3 1996 and just make a 2-3 min video of every single game in development for it to finish off tho.
You can bet they are keeping at least one, prob two out of Metroid, Smash Bros, Mario Universe and Zelda for Winter 2013 to combat the PS4 / 720 launches, prob a small price cut or bundle aswel depending on how it's selling.
How many do we think the system will sell ?, i think it will hit 10 - 15 million very fast and then tale off, i do think it will be around 20 million consoles ahead by the time the other two release tho.
A very strong install base for the first year, lets hope it has the hardware to keep it relevant, third party wise until 2020
.Koichi Hayashida (Super Mario 3d Land's director) said in the Nintendo Power interview that Nintendo has a 2D Mario team (obviously EAD 4) and a 3D Mario team (EAD Tokyo). I doubt they would have the 3D team make a 2D edition.
"Processor systems" - that could mean 4GHz execution units, 2GHz eDRAM based L2 cache (it's DDR after all), 1GHz bus.
shadyspace
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What's been said?
It is almost assured that 3D Mario will be staying in EAD Tokyo Group No. 2. The exciting part is that eventually EAD Tokyo Group No.1 should be unveiling something new. It has been speculated that they have been experimenting on something for a while. Don't be surprised if they take back Donkey Kong or revive another classic IP.
Fantastical
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I was being silly. I doubt Wii U will have a negative GHz processor.
i'm looking for what i thought i heard things from and can't find the source. oh well. guess it was all a dream.
Hot Coldman
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grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Agent Ironside
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Seems legit.
Eggplant Wizard
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I could have sworn I heard the same thing, but maybe I'm confusing it with Miyamoto's words on Mario a few years ago (forgive my choice of source). But 3D Zelda makes a lot of sense and I fully expect one to be announced before the next 2D Zelda.
shadyspace
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Too bad. 3D Zelda is the only good Zelda.
Mr. MondayNight
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He was also a guilty pleasure of mine it was like a train wreck that you saw coming you don't wanna watch but you can't look away.....
Apophis2036
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What are the rumored 720 specs ? :O, last i read in the Orbis thread BG was saying PS4 would be 2 teraFLOPS !.
I would guess without knowing a thing that if Wii U is a fast tri core CPU, 2 GB's of Ram and a 500 gigaFLOP GPU that the 720 / PS4 would be at least a 4 core 3 ghz CPU, 3 GB's of Ram and a 1200 - 1500 terafLOP GPU ?.
Also because those systems won't have to feed a 480p tablet they will look a LOT better compared to Wii U.
I sometimes wish Nintendo would have just went with a standard gamepad and we would have gotten much better looking exclusives and next gen third party versions
.Cheers.
Metroid Hunter
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Take back? Retro is a Nintendo first-party studio. Don't you mean transfer the IP from one internal studio to another?
What are the rumored 720 specs ? :O, last i read in the Orbis thread BG was saying PS4 would be 2 teraFLOPS !.
I would guess without knowing a thing that if Wii U is a fast tri core CPU, 2 GB's of Ram and a 500 gigaFLOP GPU that the 720 / PS4 would be at least a 4 core 3 ghz CPU, 3 GB's of Ram and a 1200 - 1500 terafLOP GPU ?.
Also because those systems won't have to feed a 480p tablet they will look a LOT better compared to Wii U.
I sometimes wish Nintendo would have just went with a standard gamepad and we would have gotten much better looking exclusives and next gen third party versions
Cheers.
Not every use of the DRC requires it to display a 3D image in tandem with the one on screen. Killer Freaks' use of it, for example, was (from the look of it) either 2D or highly rudimentary 3D.
how dare you, sir
Yep, the cycles spin in the opposite direction like the disc drive.
Take back because Shimizu was the original producer of DKJB. Then Kensuke Tanabe (Nintendo SPD3) took it with Retro. But maybe Shimizu gets it back. He worked on the awesome Game Boy Donkey Kong 94 game.
Eggplant Wizard
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They could be working on Miyamoto's new IP. :O
Where did you hear about 3D Mario staying in group 2?
Koizumi said at E3 his team was conducting experiments on the next 3D Mario. Obviously you will not see it this year, as it is way to early and Kyoto Group No. 4 has NSMB HD and NSMB 3DS coming.
And anecdotal evidence shows, that all the producers and groups stick to the franchises they maintain. They do not deviate. That is how Miyamoto and Tezuka set up the EAD groups with the producers staying consistent, and directors taking turns it seems.
EAD Kyoto Group No. 1 - Mario Kart series, Nintendogs series, Luigi's Mansion series
EAD Kyoto Group No. 2 - Mii Games, Animal Crossing
EAD Kyoto Group No. 3 - Zelda series 2D and 3D
EAD Kyoto Group No. 4- New Super Mario Bros., Pikmin, Big Brain Academy
EAD Kyoto Group No. 5 - Wii Fit, Steel Diver, F-Zero/Star Fox (???)
EAD Tokyo Group No. 1 - DSiWare apps, New Mainline game coming???
EAD Tokyo Group No. 2 - 3D Mario Games, Flipnote Studio
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