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The Witcher 3 XP bug is getting fixed but not until next week

Beefy said:
Yep and that is the reason why I have stopped playing.
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I was pretty worked up too, but honestly the only quests affected are a few in the Novigrad region. Mostly main story quests.

I played through them and I am now in Act 3 and still about 5 levels higher than the main story quests recommended levels. I got exp for every quest in Skellege and beyond.

It's annoying, and frustrated me at first. But honestly in the end you might loose a level or two at max from the missed experience, and they barely matter.
 
I know it doesn't matter and all but I still shelved this game after the first quest that I turned in that didn't give me XP happened. I have too many other recent games on the go anyway so no big complaints from me.
 
LonelyGreyWolf said:
Well yeah? The reason why this hasn't been patched yet is because they're saving it up for the big patch coming up, which will obviously fix more than just the XP glitch. No word on item sorting yet though.
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No, what I'm saying is that I'm hoping that they may have added some additional fixes/improvements into 1.05 that weren't initially listed in the change list posted on Sunday.
 
TheFatMan said:
I was pretty worked up too, but honestly the only quests affected are a few in the Novigrad region. Mostly main story quests.

I played through them and I am now in Act 3 and still about 5 levels higher than the main story quests recommended levels. I got exp for every quest in Skellege and beyond.

It's annoying, and frustrated me at first. But honestly in the end you might loose a level or two at max from the missed experience, and they barely matter.
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This whole idea that the game is so unbalanced that even a XP bug doesn't re-balance it is honestly just as if not more disconcerting.

I'm still sidelining my play because I am too early in the game to risk it and a few people that seem to have been in my same scenario have reported being under leveled so it isn't worth the risk for me, but still, if they are taking this long I hope they also use it to get the functional state XP system more balanced as well.
 
TheFatMan said:
I was pretty worked up too, but honestly the only quests affected are a few in the Novigrad region. Mostly main story quests.

I played through them and I am now in Act 3 and still about 5 levels higher than the main story quests recommended levels. I got exp for every quest in Skellege and beyond.

It's annoying, and frustrated me at first. But honestly in the end you might loose a level or two at max from the missed experience, and they barely matter.
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That's good to hear - the bug can definitely come in Novigrad and then go away again once you get to the Skellige portions?

I wonder if the general unbalancing is because they didn't anticipate how people would actually play the game. The set-up seems to imagine that you'll see Act 1 as a means of sampling each of the main three areas, following the main quest and maybe doing a bit of exploring off the beaten path, but then go back to each area multiple times throughout. Whereas it seems people are doing everything possible in an area before doing that area's portion of Act 1.
 
SeanTSC said:
Not at all. It's just that the game dumps truckloads of exp on you unexpectedly. Sometimes I'd be just getting nothing at all from story quests for a while and then DUMP, many levels. I think there's something really weird with it and maybe not as many people are getting the bug as they think they are and are just hitting some sections where the game doesn't drip exp out to you for a while before suddenly giving you a lot.
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Wait i am confused. So, you have the glitch yourself, and then unexpectedly as you said, you received tons of XP when you shouldnt? Meaning the game awards by mistake extra XP (from what you have lost due to the glitch), in later quests?

Because if this is the case then I guess it does become a minor issue.

I just want to make sure I can reach lvl 35 without grinding. If the XP glitch doesnt prevent that (without grinding) then I am ok with it.
 
Zakalwe said:
That's very easy to say from our position, we have no way of knowing how deeply the bug is buried or how entwined with other parts of the code it is.

Too many people here saying "hotfix", "this is easy!" or similar when they probably have very little knowledge of game development or coding.



The only official word I read on this was that XP was definitely /not/ being reimbursed.

Do you have link to an official word that says otherwise?
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I'm only saying it's "easy" based on a hotfix by someone who made said hotfix in an hour.

I think that's fair for me to say. Especially given that the hotfix fixes the issue with one addition: you get experience for grey quests.

Yes, I'm not experienced at coding. But I don't think it's unreasonable for me to think that if someone could do that in one hour, CDPr would be able to get some sort of fix out over the course of the week for the PC version which doesn't require cert.
 
valkyre said:
Wait i am confused. So, you have the glitch yourself, and then unexpectedly as you said, you received tons of XP when you shouldnt? Meaning the game awards by mistake XP you have lost due to the glitch in later quests?

Because if this is the case then I guess it does become a minor issue.

I just want to make sure I can reach lvl 35 without grinding. If the XP glitch doesnt prevent that (without grinding) then I am ok with it.
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I'm not sure it's that I received tons of Exp when I "shouldn't" have - it's just that the game can be incredibly inconsistent with spreading out exp. You don't necessarily get exp for every single story step or completion and then sometimes you'll just get a whole ton in one go. More so that it's very unbalanced and uneven in how it spreads exp out to the player.

You should easily be able to get level 35 from just playing. There's so much stuff that it's easy to out-level a lot of things and start getting 0 exp from Grayed out 6+ levels too low quests that you passed up. Even if you don't, as much as you may dislike the idea of grinding - grinding is incredibly fast and not something to be afraid of if somehow the game breaks so much for you that you don't hit 35. It's not some slog or chore, it'll take a few minutes.
 
SeanTSC said:
I'm not sure it's that I received tons of Exp when I "shouldn't" have - it's just that the game can be incredibly inconsistent with spreading out exp. You don't necessarily get exp for every single story step or completion and then sometimes you'll just get a whole ton in one go. More so that it's very unbalanced and uneven in how it spreads exp out to the player.

You should easily be able to get level 35 from just playing. There's so much stuff that it's easy to out-level a lot of things and start getting 0 exp from Grayed out 6+ levels too low quests that you passed up. Even if you don't, as much as you may dislike the idea of grinding - grinding is incredibly fast and not something to be afraid of if somehow the game breaks so much for you that you don't hit 35. It's not some slog or chore, it'll take a few minutes.
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Can you say the best way of doing this sort of ultra-fast grinding, should we need to to get to 35?
 
locke_21183 said:
Can you say the best way of doing this sort of ultra-fast grinding, should we need to to get to 35?
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It's killing a cyclops that instantly respawns whenever you meditate over and over for 50 exp a pop (54 with +exp mods I had on gear). It's level 30 and you can go all the way to 36 on it. Easily killable starting at level 25.
 
Primethius said:
I'm only saying it's "easy" based on a hotfix by someone who made said hotfix in an hour.

I think that's fair for me to say. Especially given that the hotfix fixes the issue with one addition: you get experience for grey quests.

Yes, I'm not experienced at coding. But I don't think it's unreasonable for me to think that if someone could do that in one hour, CDPr would be able to get some sort of fix out over the course of the week for the PC version which doesn't require cert.
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He didn't fix the bug though, he applied a band aid to the bug. They need to fix the code causing the glitch, if they leave it there it could cause problems later on. It's not the same thing.
 
I kinda wish I could get the XP bug... I'm so overleveled that the game has become way too easy, even on the second highest difficulty.
 
Zakalwe said:
He didn't fix the bug though, he applied a band aid to the bug. They need to fix the code causing the glitch, if they leave it there it could cause problems later on. It's not the same thing.
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*shrugs* Haven't had any issues with the mod so far. It's worked great and made the game playable for me.
 
SeanTSC said:
I'm not sure it's that I received tons of Exp when I "shouldn't" have - it's just that the game can be incredibly inconsistent with spreading out exp. You don't necessarily get exp for every single story step or completion and then sometimes you'll just get a whole ton in one go. More so that it's very unbalanced and uneven in how it spreads exp out to the player.

You should easily be able to get level 35 from just playing. There's so much stuff that it's easy to out-level a lot of things and start getting 0 exp from Grayed out 6+ levels too low quests that you passed up. Even if you don't, as much as you may dislike the idea of grinding - grinding is incredibly fast and not something to be afraid of if somehow the game breaks so much for you that you don't hit 35. It's not some slog or chore, it'll take a few minutes.
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I see thanks for the reply, but one more thing just for the sake of good order.

Do you have the XP glitch and do later campaign quests award you XP (after Novigrad)?
 
I ran into this for the first time last night. It was the "Pyres of Novigrad" quest.

I'm slightly over-leveled right now (that was a Level 10 mission, while I'm Level 13), so it's no big deal right now. I should be fine with waiting for the patch, but it still would be nice to get XP from the story stuff as I haven't progressed very much experience-wise over the past couple nights.
 
valkyre said:
I see thanks for the reply, but one more thing just for the sake of good order.

Do you have the XP glitch and do later campaign quests award you XP (after Novigrad)?
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I had points where I had gotten no Exp, yes. The vast majority of later quests all gave loads of exp though. Ended up at 35.5ish when I was done with the game and I had missed a few high level story quests giving exp due to story exp being so much that it leveled me up to the point where the level 28 quests went grey for me and gave 0.

I think people make too much of a big deal out of some incredibly minor Novigrad Exp loss when the game freaking dumps multiple levels on you at once later. Unless you're getting to the point where story quests are 6+ levels are above you and they're all red then you're not under leveled and you havent missed much exp at all.
 
SeanTSC said:
I had points where I had gotten no Exp, yes. The vast majority of later quests all gave loads of exp though. Ended up at 35.5ish when I was done with the game and I had missed a few high level story quests giving exp due to story exp being so much that it leveled me up to the point where the level 28 quests went grey for me and gave 0.
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Thanks a lot for your clarifications on the matter. It certainly helps playing the game without worrying too much about the XP glitch. ( I am playing on Death March and want to hit 35 without grinding so it was a bit worrying)

Knowing now that I will get exp further down the line is reassuring.
 
Zakalwe said:
That's great, but it has nothing to do with the fact that CDPR need to root out the bug, not apply a mod over the top of it.
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My point was... why can't it be both? The mod made the game playable for me. Which is much better then the alternative, which is... we have no idea when the patch to fix the issue will drop.
 
Veritigo_X said:
I kinda wish I could get the XP bug... I'm so overleveled that the game has become way too easy, even on the second highest difficulty.
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Same here.

Maybe CDPR's fix to the unbalanced level progression in the game will be that everyone gets the "bug". :p
 
I wish this was the only bug in the game I'm experiencing, seeing as I'm still super over leveled as it is, so whatever EXP I've missed has been entirely negligible. At least I could continue playing the game if this were the only issue.

But I can't because there are actual serious bugs in the game beyond some missing EXP, like the infinite loading bug on a main quest that I can't get beyond and thus can't continue on with the main plot. And this bug is affecting people across all platforms.

EXP bug can wait, especially if they can find a way to retroactively award the missed EXP. Waiting an extra week for that I can understand. It's pretty clear it's a minor bug, even if widespread, since its actual impact on the game is minimal unlike other more serious bugs which should have been addressed immediately and not rolled into one big catch all patch.

There is a very clear and distinct difference between a bug that makes you feel like you can't continue with the game and a bug that actually prevents you from continuing with the game.
 
valkyre said:
Thanks a lot for your clarifications on the matter. It certainly helps playing the game without worrying too much about the XP glitch. ( I am playing on Death March and want to hit 35 without grinding so it was a bit worrying)

Knowing now that I will get exp further down the line is reassuring.
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Yeah, and I havent heard of anyone having any big misses on the major mid-late game exp dumps the game gives. It pretty much throws multiple levels at you at once. The whole "oh crap, I missed 500 exp in Novigrad" stuff or 50 Exp from a Side Quest (That's what the majority of them give) is missing a TON of context. That's basically next to nothing when there's points where the game will drop 8000 exp on you.

Yes, I know people don't like being told to "calm down" or having missing exp from a quest handwaved away as minor, but you're talking really low exp stuff that is minor in the context of the entire game.
 
Primethius said:
My point was... why can't it be both? The mod made the game playable for me. Which is much better then the alternative, which is... we have no idea when the patch to fix the issue will drop.
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Maybe they didn't want to release something that forced players to mess around with game files, releasing unofficial fixes like that could cause more problems.

It may have worked, sure, maybe they could have thought about that.
 
valkyre said:
I see thanks for the reply, but one more thing just for the sake of good order.

Do you have the XP glitch and do later campaign quests award you XP (after Novigrad)?
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In my case I did not get XP for the Novigrad quests "Broken Flowers" and "Get Junior". I may not have gotten XP for "Pyres of Novigrad" and "Dreaming whatever" but I honestly wasn't paying attention at that point.

However I then started getting XP for the follow-on main quests in Novigrad "The Play's the Thing", etc and have been getting it as normal in Skellige. So I've progressed from Level 15 to 21 now despite not getting any XP for the main Novigrad quests.
 
Tankshell said:
Not sure if troll post but 1.5 news: http://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/38obsx/patch_105_is_live_on_gog/
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Thank god patch 1.05 is out now ready for the weekend! I was worrying I'd have to play something else over the weekend and keep it shelved. Good times!
 
CrichtonKicks said:
In my case I did not get XP for the Novigrad quests "Broken Flowers" and "Get Junior". I may not have gotten XP for "Pyres of Novigrad" and "Dreaming whatever" but I honestly wasn't paying attention at that point.

However I then started getting XP for the follow-on main quests in Novigrad "The Play's the Thing", etc and have been getting it as normal in Skellige. So I've progressed from Level 15 to 21 now despite not getting any XP for the main Novigrad quests.
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Hmm very very interesting. Thats the quests that I got no XP. Exactly the ones you stated. I still havent finished Get Junior so it will be interesting to see if I get XP for the next quests.

Would you mind telling me what level you are?

PS: Also to our good friends over at PC, please share your experiences with the patch what it fixes, any issues etc, since we will have to wait a good week to get it ourselves. ;)
 
I'm sorry but I have been busy with school and work and I don't think think I've played this game since this XP issue has become so widespread.

It affects the PS4, correct and which patch is it that causes it?
 
valkyre said:
Hmm very very interesting. Thats the quests that I got no XP. Exactly the ones you stated. I still havent finished Get Junior so it will be interesting to see if I get XP for the next quests.

Would you mind telling me what level you are?

PS: Also to our good friends over at PC, please share your experiences with the patch what it fixes, any issues etc, since we will have to wait a good week to get it ourselves. ;)
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At the time I was level 15. Now, 2 quests into the main path on Skellige I'm 21.
 
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