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This gen is the worst ever and i've been in gaming since year 1998
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This generation started from November 2020.
Ironically, based on the OPs focus on visuals, ‘next gen’ physics and destruction and UE5, many of these Asian games you extol are some of the worst offenders.
But we all know that’s BS since they’re some of the best games we’ve seen in ages. Elden ring, FF Rebirth, AC6, Stellar Blade…
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7 years? it entered full production in mid 2021
fart town usa
Gold Member
This.
3rd party and AA. People who complain about a lack of quality games aren't looking hard enough.
Naked Lunch
Member
Easily the worst gen and I don't ever see it getting better.
Ive actually nearly completely given up on the hobby because of the lack of great games.
Its been years and years of trash - im still waiting.
When I do game - I usually just boot up one of my retro consoles.
I spend most of my free time reading books - particularly classic literature.
Far better use of my time - and far more rewarding.
Ive actually nearly completely given up on the hobby because of the lack of great games.
Its been years and years of trash - im still waiting.
When I do game - I usually just boot up one of my retro consoles.
I spend most of my free time reading books - particularly classic literature.
Far better use of my time - and far more rewarding.
Puscifer
Member
Pretty much this. I wonder if OP has really dug into the indie scene, I feel like around 2017~ish those awkward early years went away and they started finding their strides.
Risk of Rain 2 is my most played game of all time
Rocco Schiavone
Member
The hardware ist not the problem. Shitty devs that want to play It safe because of high development costs are the problem.
GTAVI will be the first open world game that you will call current gen.
GTAVI will be the first open world game that you will call current gen.
ZoukGalaxy
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LavitzSlambert
Member
Late 360/PS3/Wii and early Xbone/PS4/Wii-U was the worst period of console gaming. The PC scene was doing well from 2009 to 2016 but since 2017 the script has flipped again. Guess we'll see what happens with this generation, there have been a few heavy hitters early and I have a feeling it will be a backloaded generation like the previous one. In the meantime, indies and those cross-gen titles have been propping the industry up.
Optimus Lime
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This gen has been the worst of all time. The absolute worst. When I see people saying 'it's been GREAT for me', all I can think of is what the fuck are you smoking and how much is it.
Sony has had fuck all outside of a handful of titles. They jacked up the prices of literally everything, their mainline prices are now prohibitively expensive ($125AUD for Stellar Blade? Fuck off.). Everything is built for the zoomer Fortnite broccoli haired fuckwit player, with microtransactions and battle passes. Horrible San Francisco progressive politics lathered across everything as developers climb over one another to 'be on the right side of history'. Microsoft absolutely shat the bed, to the point that the Xbox brand may be retired so that they can pursue their failed ambitions as the 'Netflix of games', something barely anyone wants. And, Nintendo were SO successful with Switch that they decided to sit this one out and just coast on fumes, releasing stuff like 'Tears Of The Kingdom', which would have been annihilated as a low effort remake of 'Breath Of The Wild' if it had been anything other than a Zelda game by the blue haired fart huffers in what remains of the shambling corpse of the 'gaming media'.
It's just endless miles of trash. Being excited about contemporary gaming at this point is a fool's errand. The hardware sucks, the software is non-existent, and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight.
Thank fuck for Steam and PC gaming - just need to find a way to exile the streamers, zoomers, and retards who flocked to the platform in an attempt to appear 'hardcore' and we're good to go.
Sony has had fuck all outside of a handful of titles. They jacked up the prices of literally everything, their mainline prices are now prohibitively expensive ($125AUD for Stellar Blade? Fuck off.). Everything is built for the zoomer Fortnite broccoli haired fuckwit player, with microtransactions and battle passes. Horrible San Francisco progressive politics lathered across everything as developers climb over one another to 'be on the right side of history'. Microsoft absolutely shat the bed, to the point that the Xbox brand may be retired so that they can pursue their failed ambitions as the 'Netflix of games', something barely anyone wants. And, Nintendo were SO successful with Switch that they decided to sit this one out and just coast on fumes, releasing stuff like 'Tears Of The Kingdom', which would have been annihilated as a low effort remake of 'Breath Of The Wild' if it had been anything other than a Zelda game by the blue haired fart huffers in what remains of the shambling corpse of the 'gaming media'.
It's just endless miles of trash. Being excited about contemporary gaming at this point is a fool's errand. The hardware sucks, the software is non-existent, and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight.
Thank fuck for Steam and PC gaming - just need to find a way to exile the streamers, zoomers, and retards who flocked to the platform in an attempt to appear 'hardcore' and we're good to go.
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Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
PC Gaming and the Switch has been the saving graces of this gen for me. PS5 is such a massive disappointment and the Xbox Series X/S is such a failure it turned the brand into third party.
Optimus Lime
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This generation is so horrible that it literally killed Xbox, one of the most dominant brands in gaming for at least a decade. That is crazy stuff.
darrylgorn
Member
My daughter who plays tablet games: 'Do you know when videogame graphics are going to get better, because the ones on the new systems don't look any different.'
It's joever.
It's joever.
Zathalus
Member
Hard disagree, the past 4 years have had some seriously amazing games come out. Even graphically we have plenty of games pushing the boundaries.
I'm honestly puzzled at those that claim this gen is trash, sure there is tons of shit but every gen has that. The simple trick is to just ignore all of that and just play good games.
I'm honestly puzzled at those that claim this gen is trash, sure there is tons of shit but every gen has that. The simple trick is to just ignore all of that and just play good games.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Nah, not really. The Xbox lost any dominance back in the 360 era after the announcement of the Xbox One (and even then it was on a slow and gradual decline). This generation just finally put the nail in the coffin.
Though Sony is going the same way with the idiotic management, forced censorship, and focus on DEI and GAAS nonsense.
Worried about Nintendo. FE Engage and then titles like the recent re-write of Paper Mario does not lead me to having confidence.
At least on PC I can have a mod to get the original translations.
Optimus Lime
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Nah, not really. The Xbox One had a good first year - people forget about successes like Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, etc. Enthusiast forums like Gaf hated it, and it was never in the lead, but it wasn't the catastrophic failure that it became. The trouble for Xbox REALLY started with the departure of Don Mattrick, who understood the importance of software, and the installation of Phil Spencer, who has been a dog chasing cars for ten years in order to find the hook to beat Sony, after he decided that software no longer matters.
Hyperborean
Member
I still love the output from this hobby.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Past couple years have been loaded with amazing games.
Being on PC+Deck has been awesome. Best time for gaming ever. I could see console fanboys having a tough time with everything being multiplatform and on PC.
Being on PC+Deck has been awesome. Best time for gaming ever. I could see console fanboys having a tough time with everything being multiplatform and on PC.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I was of the same mind set for a while but when I went back a generation it was jarring. There has been massive changes, you just got used to them already
DeepSpace5D
Member
I personally feel that I could never keep up with the amount of games I want to play that have released this gen even if I gamed almost all day everyday 
Games are so long nowadays and I have behemoths in my backlog like Baldur’s Gate 3, Dragon’s Dogma 2, FFVII Rebirth, and Shadow of the Erdtree is on the way.
Even if I just attempt to knock out some titles in my backlog for a few months, I feel I get further behind with new releases when stuff keeps coming out constantly.
Games are so long nowadays and I have behemoths in my backlog like Baldur’s Gate 3, Dragon’s Dogma 2, FFVII Rebirth, and Shadow of the Erdtree is on the way.
Even if I just attempt to knock out some titles in my backlog for a few months, I feel I get further behind with new releases when stuff keeps coming out constantly.
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Sometimes I even lament the technology improvements. I mean, 360/PS3 era games looked pretty great to me, there was no shortage of impressive vistas and detailed characters, with plenty of room for artistic expression. Nowadays everything takes forever and is insanely expensive to make, which means we get less top tier titles, and less risks are taken. The hyperrealism is often taken to completely unnecessary levels, it's like you can't just have a random desk in a random room, it must be filled with a hundred props and details everywhere, for no reason.
There is surely some level of old man yelling at cloud here, but I feel like there are far too many remakes and not enough AAA games to be excited about, in general.
There is surely some level of old man yelling at cloud here, but I feel like there are far too many remakes and not enough AAA games to be excited about, in general.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
I think it’s been the best gen, if you’re into PlayStation games, vr and Japanese games. Overpacked with games imo.
BlackTron
Gold Member
I agree this was a pretty crappy time.
There definitely has been a diminished return of graphical fidelity this gen, and the major effects like ray-tracing that could define this period still can't run well on console hardware.
I would say to quit judging how "next-gen" a thing is at all, much less put so much stock of that into big-budget games pushing fidelity. The last Zelda game did more with physics on ancient Switch hardware too.
This gen has actually been great for me, the absolute best for mid-tier to indie titles, but the worst if you consume mainly AAA.
360/PS3 gen still easily the worst IMO. It created most of the stupid parts of this industry (especially monetization), Japanese game development slumped, many AAA games were samey rip-offs of the best few (just like now), PC felt dead for half the gen until Steam brought things back, and the b-games/indie scene was far smaller to offer a strong alternative.
I would say to quit judging how "next-gen" a thing is at all, much less put so much stock of that into big-budget games pushing fidelity. The last Zelda game did more with physics on ancient Switch hardware too.
This gen has actually been great for me, the absolute best for mid-tier to indie titles, but the worst if you consume mainly AAA.
360/PS3 gen still easily the worst IMO. It created most of the stupid parts of this industry (especially monetization), Japanese game development slumped, many AAA games were samey rip-offs of the best few (just like now), PC felt dead for half the gen until Steam brought things back, and the b-games/indie scene was far smaller to offer a strong alternative.
On one hand it's true this gen is by far the worse (i don't even know if we can call it a generation honestly), on the other i feel that people who are saying this are just waiting to have their Horizon Zero Dawn ou Ghost of Tsushima for this generation, i mean either a sequel of those big franchises with better graphics, or new IP but still action/adventure AAA generic stuff with better graphics.
I already disliked the dynamic gaming was in since PS4 gen so i'm not that disappointed. The death of midbudget was already a thing, and the big uniformization and narrowing of AAA games too.
Right now i feel like playing old games and discovering genres i barely touched previously and i'm enjoying myself. So yeah current gaming sucks but i'm still having a blast.
I already disliked the dynamic gaming was in since PS4 gen so i'm not that disappointed. The death of midbudget was already a thing, and the big uniformization and narrowing of AAA games too.
Right now i feel like playing old games and discovering genres i barely touched previously and i'm enjoying myself. So yeah current gaming sucks but i'm still having a blast.
Optimus Lime
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The best game of this generation was Vampire Survivors, don't @ me silly boys.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
I agree, except I would raise that it is actually HoloCure, which was a free game spawned from Vampire Survivors.
Buggy Loop
Member
It's only bad if you cling to AAA. That has cratered and are now trying to cater to the dumbest audiences and to represent everyone.
AA + Indies have been excellent and taken 90% of my gaming time.
AA + Indies have been excellent and taken 90% of my gaming time.
Astral Dog
Member
Not all is lost yet, before judging the whole generation i need to see Switch 2 things will get interesting next year
baphomet
Member
People forget how shitty the 360/PS3 gen actually was. Nearly 10 years long and games running at 20fps, with non HD resolutions, and while still having constant screen tearing.
The consoles being pure trash by 2012 was what pushed lots of people to build a PC. A lot of those people never came back.
The consoles being pure trash by 2012 was what pushed lots of people to build a PC. A lot of those people never came back.
Angry_Megalodon
Gold Member
I have been from the very beginning (Pong) and this gen is very good so far. I don't need massive technological leaps, just good games, and we have plenty of those.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
It's a mixed bag.
Western AAA games suck, most AAA (no matter from where) take years to be made. Also woke stuff up the ass.
New ips are meh too, people here are shitting on the PS3/360 era but I miss that one. We got Mass Effect, Dead Space, Bioshock, and some more, all of them with multiple titles being released during the same gen.
But on the other hand, you have consoles finally doing 60fps, the Steam Deck, VR, lots of indies and AA being released constantly and everywhere, and barely any exclusive titles, which for me is a good thing.
So yeah, things could be better sure, but it's not that bad. For me personally, I still enjoy many japanese releases, south korea is releasing some cool stuff too and the slavjank kino is back later this year with KCD2.
Western AAA games suck, most AAA (no matter from where) take years to be made. Also woke stuff up the ass.
New ips are meh too, people here are shitting on the PS3/360 era but I miss that one. We got Mass Effect, Dead Space, Bioshock, and some more, all of them with multiple titles being released during the same gen.
But on the other hand, you have consoles finally doing 60fps, the Steam Deck, VR, lots of indies and AA being released constantly and everywhere, and barely any exclusive titles, which for me is a good thing.
So yeah, things could be better sure, but it's not that bad. For me personally, I still enjoy many japanese releases, south korea is releasing some cool stuff too and the slavjank kino is back later this year with KCD2.
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Or perhaps they liked it ?
It's true that this is the moment where a lot of games made the choice of pushing graphical fidelity instead of 60 fps, among other things. But it stayed like that after it during the PS4 gen lol, nothing changed. And honestly it's even the same with PS5 and Series X, since the games that run at 60 are PS4 games if we're being honest.
It's the same for DLCs, online subscriptions and all, appeared during 360 gen, but it's not specific to it. Only shitty motion control is.
And every console sold well during this gen so i doubt there was a massive exodus.
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Shadowstar39
Member
This.. Really its only people that are graphics snobs that can't stand this gen or who want non stop AAA setpeices and multiplayer.
For single player jrpgs and throwbacks the switch has been really amazing, and first party nintendo hit it out of the park. It also has some ports of pc games on it. (Wizardry, Gothic 1 and 2 on a console, a nintendo console, wtf, great stuff).
PS5 games from sony and xbox games by xbox have been meh, but 3rd party has been great, dragons dogma 2, elden ring, hogwarts, cyberpunk, robocop.... yeah 1st party is kinda nothing, and the gaas push turns me off.
Now sony 2nd party has been good this year.
Stellar blade , rise of the ronin and ff7rebirther are great games.
Xbox , I just got my first recently, and outside of starfield, which was sometimes ok, not much has come out. I use mine for playing old games anyway.
Without the switch, it would be a shittier gen that is for sure.
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
Worst ever?!
Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
Elden Ring
Resident Evil 4 remake
Returnal
How can this be the worst gen?
Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
Elden Ring
Resident Evil 4 remake
Returnal
How can this be the worst gen?
Pelao
Member
This generation has been pretty good for me. I wanted a transitional generation where 60 fps became the norm, even if it came at the cost of other graphical advancements. And that's something that can't be denied at this point. The vast majority of games run at 60 fps or higher, and most of the ones that don't at launch end up doing so eventually anyway.
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Joshmyersbv
Member
This gen for me will be known for the amount of remakes and remasters we got.