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This is why people don't do good deeds anymore

Due to you having done a good deed, and him responding in kind with a bad one ... you are effectively 'karma-proof' if you decide to enact revenge.



I'm actually not kidding (well, about the karma thing maybe) ... sue him. Seriously.
 
Metroidvania said:
So...any idea on why the kid is saying it's you?
Could be, because...
CowboyAstronaut said:
Anyway today I witnessed some kid getting beat up and his ps3 stolen from him by people I know.
Maybe..he assumed that since he was there, he was part of the "group"..
 
yea you should sue, if you sue then they might actually start believing the truth that it wasn't you.
 
Jive Turkey said:
Now that's just stupid.

True story:

I once saw someone stealing a car and my sense of justice kicked in so I followed the guy. He drove the car to a vacant lot to let it "cool off" for a couple days. I decided I'd steal the car back from him and return it to the owner. I got in and man it was a really nice car. All leather with burled wood insets...Great stereo.

I drove it around for a while enjoying the ride while looking for the owner's house. I knew him personally but I didn't remember exactly where he lived. Well as I'm cruising through the neighborhood I see some lights in the mirror. I think "Great! Surely this fine upstanding officer of the law will help me on my Quest of Justice!" I pull over and get out of the car to greet the officer.

To make a long story short: I spent the evening chewing on asphalt and enjoying the mixed aroma of vomit, urine, and alcohol. Now wouldn't I have felt like an ass if I hadn't helped?

liar...

aktham said:
Poor guy! I feel your pain, but next time you should know better than to willingly go to the police station. :lol
true
 
Reading the original post, I really expected to see a "then my mom got scared and sent me to my auntie and uncle in Bel-Air" at the end.
 
crowphoenix said:
He's probably the runt of their group, has convinced himself that they are his friends. He's trying to keep them out of trouble so they'll like him more, I'd imagine.

This is the only argument I've read that makes any sense. Seriously, that or he's utterly scared they'll retaliate.
 
CowboyAstronaut said:
Yes he was. It's sad to think that race might have played into this whole situation, but it's definitely a possibility.

Yea that's what I'm thinking. Kid must be afraid of the real kids that did it to him and instead figure fingering me as being involved wont result in any sort of retaliation and in that regard he would be completely right.

One thing I know for a fact though is I definitely wont be taking any shit from either the cops or judge/lawyer on this matter because I'm the innocent person in all of this so being pushed around like I'm guilty is out of the question.

Perhaps he is switching your face with the people that beat him up. If he saw you right after it might all be sortof a blur for him.
 
Am I missing something?

How does the kid go from this

"These guys just beat me up and stole my PS3, man."

to

"You're the one that did it! You bastard!"

If he was either intentionally or unintentionally falsely accusing you, wouldn't he have done that from the very beginning -- in the police report?
 
Link said:
Probably shouldn't have waited around to see if you'd get a reward.


I definitely wasn't looking for a reward of any kind. Other than perhaps to see how happy the kid and his parents would be to see that someone was kind enough to help out like this even though I didn't have to do anything at all.

Just a small bit of courtesy is all I was looking for, but I was too naive. One thing's for sure this isn't happening to me again lol. There are real criminals out there that need to be getting harassed.

Well winfonda from what I heard from the cops the kid NEVER mentioned any names when I clearly saw him call 2 of the kids by their correct name during the incident. All he said was 4 kids beat him up and took his PS3.

I get the feeling this kid wouldn't have gone to the police department at all were it not for his parents. He's definitely afraid of the kids that did it to him. There is no way in hell the kid could confuse me to be one of the people that beat him up.

It's like "hey look at these punk kids then look at me." The mistake simply isn't possible. I don't even fit the description of the type of person that would do such a thing. Impossible mistake which is why it's obvious the kid did it on purpose. Nonetheless I just wanted to mention this somewhere due to the bizarre nature of what took place.

I really thought I did everything right. I explained everything to the cops including the info on how I managed to get it back. That wasn't enough though :lol
 
WHOAguitarninja said:
Perhaps he is switching your face with the people that beat him up. If he saw you right after it might all be sortof a blur for him.

More likely that the kid is a twat.
 
crowphoenix said:
He's probably the runt of their group, has convinced himself that they are his friends. He's trying to keep them out of trouble so they'll like him more, I'd imagine.
Got a good theory there, I remember seeing kids like that during high school.
 
Joe Molotov said:
Reading the original post, I really expected to see a "then my mom got scared and sent me to my auntie and uncle in Bel-Air" at the end.
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CowboyAstronaut said:
I definitely wasn't looking for a reward of any kind. Other than perhaps to see how happy the kid and his parents would be to see that someone was kind enough to help out like this even though I didn't have to do anything at all.

Just a small bit of courtesy is all I was looking for, but I was too naive. One thing's for sure this isn't happening to me again lol. There are real criminals out there that need to be getting harassed.
seriously though... I feel for you man, thats some donkey nuts.
 
Not the first time I've heard about something like this.

People, especially dumb kids, can be ridiculous cowards. The kid probably did something wrong to trigger the whole thing, and sees framing some random guy as a "way out" now that he's been presented the opportunity.
 
I feel for you man, dont let this stop your good deeds.

You find a legal way to get the kid to confess, the kid will break easily once the situation escalates to certain point.
 
JDSN said:
I feel for you man, dont let this stop your good deeds.

You find a legal way to get the kid to confess, the kid will break easily once the situation escalates to certain point.

THIS. I totally see this story getting picked up by gaming media if you handle it the right way. Payback time dude!!!!
 
Why be good? Be evil and beat the living shit out of that kid for lying.
You deserve it.
 
davepoobond said:
does this qualify as Defamation of Character?


you could sue them back and win.

That's definitely one of the main options I'm considering right now, but then to have to waste money on account of that dick is just... unfathomable. I can't even imagine they would be so stupid to allow a case on this matter due to the nature of the situation, but I guess since it may very well come to that if they continue with this charges nonsense I'll have to get a lawyer and sue.

One thing I know for sure though is that kid wont have the satisfaction of seeing me shoulder the responsibility for all of this.

What I'm going to do is contact the parents of the real kids responsible and have them help with this situation. I know it's slim all of them will help, but I know the father of one of the kids very well and he definitely isn't the type to sit idle while I take the blame for this. He will definitely back me up on this even if it means making his son pay for what he did. He's a very good man.
 
I'm a little confused here. Was this a new PS3? Like, was he leaving a store or something after having just bought it? Or was it one that someone already owned on the street in front of some house or something? Did they walk in the kids house and take it (back)? Was it on the playground where you spend most of your days, chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool and shooting some b-ball outside of the school?
 
This whole story smells. Biggest thing being you just stand there and watch some guys beat him up and mug him, and don't bother to call the cops? But then later take it upon yourself to recover the evidence, bring it to the cops and then turn everybody in? And then the cops are happy to just immediately turn it over with no concern for the fact that it's critical evidence? And then they cops arrest you and rough you up on the word of a 16 year old kid on top of all of this?
 
Take pictures of your hands, unless they are cut up from something else. Why was the kid carrying around his PS3? and if it was in a backpack, how did the group of kids know he had one at the time? Sounds likes the kid runs his mouth and deflects blame when he is called on his stuff. If it ever makes it to court, doubtful he will have enough of a backbone to stand up then. Im sure there is more to the story, but you need to be more careful with the company you keep. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time due to a friend, can set your life back quickly, regardless if you have done something wrong or not.
 
i hope for your sake, justice is served. what a dumb kid. maybe he doesnt want to tell on the kids who beat him up because they bully him a lot and maybe they'll bully him more if they're charged??? i dunno, but thats sir, is messed up.
 
aktham said:
Poor guy! I feel your pain, but next time you should know better than to willingly go to the police station. :lol

So we can perpetuate all kinds of bullshit? Dude did the right thing through and through just he person he did if for was an ass.
 
The kid was probably trying to get the ones who beat the shit out of him off the hook. If they got busted by the police and got in deep shit with their parents they might come back and beat the shit out of him even harder in retaliation. Or so he fears.

Pretty fucked up story though.
 
Well either way the situation and how it went down was still messed up for ya. However (and im just speaking personally now) if they were people i'd known for awhile, I would have just gone over there, told them to chill (in so many words) then apologize to the kid and walk off.

Or were they just people you knew and not actually friends/aquaintences?
 
crowphoenix said:
He's probably the runt of their group, has convinced himself that they are his friends. He's trying to keep them out of trouble so they'll like him more, I'd imagine.

This sounds about right. Especially, because why would he randomly be carrying a PS3 in broad daylight. I bet he was hanging out with the kids, took his PS3 to their house, and they decided to steal it from him as he was walking home.
 
Warm Machine said:
So we can perpetuate all kinds of bullshit? Dude did the right thing through and through just he person he did if for was an ass.

Precisely... you can't be afraid to do good deeds because of assholes!

I think maybe 10 percent of the people that I show kindness towards appreciate it, but I don't become a snarky asshole from it either I just continue the good fight.

The world won't become better by accepting that people are assholes, only by breaking from the easy path :D
 
Warm Machine said:
So we can perpetuate all kinds of bullshit? Dude did the right thing through and through just he person he did if for was an ass.
i think there was a hint of sarcasm in that comment...
 
That's really fucked up. At least you got the cops involved. They blew me off today when I called them 5 minutes after I saw someone break into my car and made me fill out a teleservice DIY report.
 
i'd really like to know whats going through that kids head.. including the possible legitimate reason he might have for not liking you/wanting his parents to stop chasing for the real culprits
 
Sorry to hear about this.

You did everything morally correct in this situation... But the reality is that this is a screwed up situation with a screwed up kid and his screwed up "friends/enemies".

You are too sane for this group. Its really too bad everyone else is on the messed up side.
 
To be honest it does sound like he was trying to protect someone. If the kid knew the people who beat him up and ran off with his PS3, there was no need to take matters into his own hands and retrieve the PS3 himself. The perpetrators would have got what was coming to them.

As a good natured human being, it's your duty to help someone else in need. But going out of your way to return a stolen PS3? That's taking it too far and it does sound fishy.

I do feel for you if you were only trying to do the right thing, but you should have known better regardless.
 
tabsina said:
i'd really like to know whats going through that kids head.. including the possible legitimate reason he might have for not liking you/wanting his parents to stop chasing for the real culprits
crowphoenix said:
He's probably the runt of their group, has convinced himself that they are his friends. He's trying to keep them out of trouble so they'll like him more, I'd imagine.
I'd say that's about right. Either he fears them, or he's convinced himself that they're his friends.
 
Wow. That's some stuff right there. Part of me hopes that you're actually lying in hopes of this not being true or really happening.
 
Dire said:
This whole story smells. Biggest thing being you just stand there and watch some guys beat him up and mug him, and don't bother to call the cops? But then later take it upon yourself to recover the evidence, bring it to the cops and then turn everybody in? And then the cops are happy to just immediately turn it over with no concern for the fact that it's critical evidence? And then they cops arrest you and rough you up on the word of a 16 year old kid on top of all of this?

I didn't just call the cops I was likely the very first person to call the cops. I went to the kid personally and was asking him if he was alight after it all happened. I didn't stay there to meet the cops though because I had other things I had to attend to.

By the time I got there the situation was too fargone for me to have a worthwhile impact on the situation and I wasn't going to be chasing some kids down the street. I was trying to do the right thing. No more, no less.

I would've most likely felt like shit for not doing anything about what I saw so that's why I bothered to go as far as I did to make sure he got it back.

The kids are acquaintances I don't hang out with them, but I know who they are. I've gone to barbeques held by their relatives before and played basketball with the very same kids while at some of those barbeques, but it goes no further than that. I've hung out with one of the kid's parents multiple times before though.
 
CowboyAstronaut said:
What I'm going to do is contact the parents of the real kids responsible and have them help with this situation. I know it's slim all of them will help, but I know the father of one of the kids very well and he definitely isn't the type to sit idle while I take the blame for this. He will definitely back me up on this even if it means making his son pay for what he did. He's a very good man.

Are you some kinda of a wuss?
Seriously, you let kids rough the little twat for his PS3 and you don't even help him out, but you turn into more of a wuss and go to a police station. Now who the hell goes to a police station nowadays??? Then that lilttle twat frames your ass as one of the suspects and you end up getting arrested.

Now, you decide to sue them, but you're insecure and then decide to tell on one of the suspect's dad. Addtionally, you glorify the suspects father as some godly figure that'll help your ass out.

You know what will be funny if the father accuses you for the incident and the cops take you to jail.

Honestly, grow some balls, man.
 
Jirotrom said:
i think there was a hint of sarcasm in that comment...

None. It bothers me when good people are made to feel like they should be afraid of going to the police station or talking to the police. It doesn't improve matters just continues to drive a wedge in deeper.
 
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