Err, didn't they also say photorealistic games have to be possible for other genres to flourish or something like that? So many conflicting opinions from THQ.
I read very clearly what you said, and I stand my point.
You, like many others on GAF, are implying that with more powerful hardware developers would be focused just on improving graphics and that giving them less powerful hardware is good cause it will force them to focus on design.
Which is bullshit.
Well, here's an uncomfortable truth for you guys: developers in the mainstream market will *always* be focused on improving graphics, because that's what help sales the most, and if new consoles aren't going to give them enough additional hardware power, they aren't going to change philosophy, they are just going to improve graphics at expenses of other stuff.
Of course not. I barely even play consoles anymore. I almost play exclusively on my PC, ipad or iphone. What's the point of a console if it doesn't get me really good graphics for cheap? You know that nextgen is going to be sony and microsoft trying to get me to give them money for services I don't want on a super closed system. What's the point?
Give it up, Heavy... desperation isn't a pretty sight.
I read very clearly what you said, and I stand my point.
You, like many others on GAF, are implying that with more powerful hardware developers would be focused just on improving graphics and that giving them less powerful hardware is good cause it will force them to focus on design.
Which is bullshit.
Well, here's an uncomfortable truth for you guys: developers in the mainstream market will *always* be focused on improving graphics, because that's what help sales the most, and if new consoles aren't going to give them enough additional hardware power, they aren't going to change philosophy, they are just going to improve graphics at expenses of other stuff.
I believe that was 2K.
You say that to me after reading Loghorn150's posts in this thread? Try to be a little less transparent.
I disagree, Crysis gave you this suit that didn't exactly work the way I thought it would. I felt less powerful then standard human enemies, despite the "open" nature of the environment, I always end up spamming the stealth mode just to keep my energy in reserve not to mention the ridiculous"AI" hive-awareness they all have. The suit mechanics was like a jumping-jack sequence just to get it to work: stealth/off/shield/off/speed/off, etc etc. simply because they lose energy too fast. Need I also mention that the sprint whether suit activated or not depletes your energy. Ridiculous.
Uncharted at least gets it consistent, the mechanics do work to the design although I wished they would've expanded the formula than kept it context-based.
I'm talking to you, not Longhorn or anyone else - did you see me agreeing with him? (no idea what he's said BTW.) Get a grip Son, it isn't the end of the world.
It's also crazy talk to not think there isn't a big jump the the Samaritan/Fantasy Epic demos or the SE Luminous demo.
What are you even going on about? What "desperation"? Who's "losing grip"? How are you getting these reactions from the two innocuous posts I made in this thread?
Oh I dunno', perhaps because you're trying to desperately twist the THQ guy's words... Allllllll the quotes from people in the business which allude to the exact same thing, and, oh yes, what top end PCs are currently achieving at $1000 costs, and yet you STILL want everyone to believe you theory? Yeah. No. Time to face reality. Why that is so difficult though, I don't know.
Oh I dunno', perhaps because you're trying to desperately twist the THQ guy's words... Allllllll the quotes from people in the business which allude to the exact same thing, and, oh yes, what top end PCs are currently achieving at $1000 costs, and yet you STILL want everyone to believe you theory? Yeah. No. Time to face reality. Why that is so difficult though, I don't know.
It's going to crack me up when next gen console games are still 30fps with no anti-aliasing.
If you saw "desperation" in those two posts that wasn't my intention, lmao. What theory am I trying to propagate? Why are you singling me out? You sound quite butthurt about the Wii U probably being considerably less powerful than the PS4 and 720 and are purposely misconstruing my posts. I'm not the one who has to 'face reality' here. There's quotes and rumors saying PS4 and the next Xbox will be much more powerful as well.
I think one console will be enough for me next gen. I'll likely just go PS4 and PC and should be well covered.
It's about time we focus more on improving AI and Physics etc. What's the point of amazing graphics when you don't improve on other aspects of games?
It's amazing. I actually understand why the term "cool bro, wanna cookie" was coined. I literary don't have the mental age to comprehend, process or give a a decent reply to this.
You also don't seem to have the mental age to comprehend the difference between 'literary' and 'literally', but alright dude, I'll try to refrain from being so incredibly desperate in my posts.
Be careful Heavy, you may not want to resort to pointing out typos or spelling mistakes; the last bastion of the desperate internet troll.
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"Games as a service" rather than "games as a product" comes to mind.
games will not be ours anymore, folks.
They have never been ours.
I read very clearly what you said, and I stand my point.
You, like many others on GAF, are implying that with more powerful hardware developers would be focused just on improving graphics and that giving them less powerful hardware is good cause it will force them to focus on design.
Which is bullshit.
Well, here's an uncomfortable truth for you guys: developers in the mainstream market will *always* be focused on improving graphics, because that's what help sales the most, and if new consoles aren't going to give them enough additional hardware power, they aren't going to change philosophy, they are just going to improve graphics at expenses of other stuff.
"Games as a service" rather than "games as a product" comes to mind.
games will not be ours anymore, folks.
Is this dude serious?
They have never been ours.
All this talk of new business models makes me really worried. I don't want my proper single player experiences to go away.
It's as if he just chose someone at random to mess with for no reason, and it was your lucky day.
You look at the trailers for Watch Dogs and the new Star Wars game, supposedly representative of next-gen graphics, and there is an honest debate whether the game would be playable on the current HD Twins
I think we are heading towards the smallest jump ever between console generations, at least in terms of the graphical representations on the screen. Can graphics look a lot better than they do now? Yes. But the cost to develop that type of game makes no economic sense.
It's as if he just chose someone at random to mess with for no reason, and it was your lucky day.
He like made a beeline at me, just weird.
Developers must be salivating at the thought of phone-gaming-like micropayments.
Honest debate by people who are honestly out of their mind. You can look at any Crysis 3 bullshot and realize that the DX11 stills can't be achieved on the PS3 and 360, and it's actually costing them more to downgrade assets, implement AA options that don't turn the game into a slideshow, and optimize for 30fps.
I thought it was mismanagement.No, actually focusing on graphics is what wrecked the game industry this past gen
You clearly didn't get a single word of what I wrote, anyway. So I'm not sure why you are pretending otherwise.But congrats for being able to so easily and nonchalantly state the complete *opposite* of the obvious truth.
Please, feel free to spread even more bullshit. Don't mind the truth.Graphics is what you (and other enthusiasts) want