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[RedSwirl]

I always felt like Western animation traditionally always emphasized the "animation" aspect more whereas for Anime it's the character designs and general art style that were more important

Which makes sense, as western animation has more money to pump into actual movement and animation frames. Anime has had to make up for it with more detailed characters and lighting.

 

[Sojgat]

That was simply amazing.

I feel like the music is reminiscent of the rock soundtracks that 80s cartoons animated in Japan had. Things like Transformers and Robotech.

 

[Twilight Gap]

Which makes sense, as western animation has more money to pump into actual movement and animation frames. Anime has had to make up for it with more detailed characters and lighting.

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i'd like to see a well animated 2D series/film with detailed characters and complex lighting. unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there's much demand

 

[Turin Turambar]

^^^^

Oh is that the same guy? I always hated that picture lol. Even if I agree with the sentiment that anime shading overall seems to have decreased in quality.

I always felt like Western animation traditionally always emphasized the "animation" aspect more whereas for Anime it's the character designs and general art style that were more important

While there is some truth to this statement, it did also cost a lot of additional money back then to add multiple layers of shadows to celluloid. Each shadow would requite its own animation cell that would overlap on top of each other. All those cells of animation would drive up cost. But these days it is irrelevant with ink and paint being done digitally.



Pretty neat animation though.

Uh... I always thought that infographic was a parody, no something "real". I mean, let's look at the part where he says it looks good because it has more tones

It's the most puke inducing amateur "pseudo-anime" art drawn by edgy 15 years old you can find on Internet.

 

[TeddyBoy]

It was a great video, I really enjoyed the details in the TIE Fighter cockpit and the variety in ship designs.

The quality of the video has improved dramatically since the teaser a couple years ago, I hope he begins working on a second soon!

 

[Warm Machine]

I hate that, while it uses Star Wars assets, it looks and feels nothing like Star Wars. All the tone and mood is replaced.

 

[Corronchilejano]

It's the most puke inducing amateur "pseudo-anime" art drawn by edgy 15 years old you can find on Internet.

It's the only part that's subpar in the whole image.

I hate that, while it uses Star Wars assets, it looks and feels nothing like Star Wars. All the tone and mood is replaced.

What has a Star Wars feel? Star Wars has a lot of adaptations, and the feel of the prequels is different than the originals.

 

[FelixOrion]

It's the only part that's subpar in the whole image.

You mean other than the horrible opinion?

 

[Corronchilejano]

You mean other than the horrible opinion?

You can say "I don't share the opinion" without saying it's "horrible." You can instead say why you don't believe in it, that's fine too.

Those images though, they really don't help the images' case.

 

[FelixOrion]

You can say "I don't share the opinion" without saying it's "horrible." You can instead say why you don't believe in it, that's fine too.

Those images though, they really don't help the images' case.

I can, but I don't have to, either. Shading isn't everything and he cherry picks examples to support his flimsy case.

 

[sgjackson]

i don't care if the dude made an infographic with bad opinions once because this is cool as fuck

 

[Corronchilejano]

I can, but I don't have to, either. Shading isn't everything and he cherry picks examples to support his flimsy case.

Fair enough.

 

[898]

In order:
Hyouka: You Can't Escape
Time of Eve
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Space Dandy
From the New World
Kyousougiga
Kids on the Slope
Nichijou
The Garden of Words
The Tatami Galaxy
Lupin III: The Woman Called Fujiko Mine
Dennou Coil
Mononoke
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

Thank you kindly.

 

[Meesh]

So. Good. So damn good, made me wish the current animated series was like it.

Also, though unrelated to Star Wars, I really wish there was an anime Aliens series.

 

[NaDannMaGoGo]

Pretty impressive.

Gonna mention my two major qualms anyways:

Music just doesn't do it for me. It doesn't necessarily degrade this short animation piece but it also certainly doesn't improve it.

Uncanny walking animation, though not unexpected as that is tough to do well. Still, it does stand out negatively.

 

[PBalfredo]

Pretty sneaky of the Empire to disguise that Missile Boat as a TIE Bomber.

 

[Warm Machine]

It's the only part that's subpar in the whole image.



What has a Star Wars feel? Star Wars has a lot of adaptations, and the feel of the prequels is different than the originals.

Star wars is all about wide framing and very clean dynamic compositions all with very little camera movement. The prequels are very much in touch with how the originals were photographed as is The Clone Wars. Hell that beautiful Lego Star Wars The Padawan Menace is totally Star Wars in how it is shot, lit, and designed.

Then you look at the Blur Star Wars movies for Old Republic and it looks and feels like the fucking Matrix and not at all Star Wars. This reminds me of that. Anime shot tropes draped onto something that doesn't suit it.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Uh... I always thought that infographic was a parody, no something "real". I mean, let's look at the part where he says it looks good because it has more tones

I really REALLY hope it is.

So. Good. So damn good, made me wish the current animated series was like it.

Also, though unrelated to Star Wars, I really wish there was an anime Aliens series.

Man. Alien(s) would make the perfect 80's style anime translation.

Star wars is all about wide framing and very clean dynamic compositions all with very little camera movement. The prequels are very much in touch with how the originals were photographed as is The Clone Wars. Hell that beautiful Lego Star Wars The Padawan Menace is totally Star Wars in how it is shot, lit, and designed.

Then you look at the Blur Star Wars movies for Old Republic and it looks and feels like the fucking Matrix and not at all Star Wars. This reminds me of that. Anime shot tropes draped onto something that doesn't suit it.

Eh. I'm always for framing things we're familiar with in a different perspective. I'm personally looking forward to the new trilogy shaking things up now that we have different directors. This is obviously meant to be a mash up of the IP with a different style anyway.

 

[Voliko]

Character designs not 80s enough

 

[PBalfredo]

This has got me racking my brain trying to remember where is my CD binder with my TIE Fighter Collector's CD.

edit: Some spelunking through the garage and I found it! Now, to install DOS Box and hope it recognizes my modern flightstick.

 

[Kettch]

Exactly what I want out of Star Wars and exactly what I want out of anime. It's a good combination.

 

[Secret Fawful]

Maybe he was trying to invoke some Heavy Metal feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXash0oCxVE

This is my favorite re-scoring of this animation. It's truly lovely work, and probably my favorite piece of Star Wars media currently.

 

[Kite]

Of course the Empire won, that wasn't a fair fight, a bunch of troop transports and escort/medical frigates vs several Star Destroyers.

 

[Malreyn]

It irked me somewhat watching the Rebel pilot get violently blown up inside his cockpit when he got shot...I understand this is what happens all the time when "stuff gets blown up" but still...

 

[Kojirospath]

Thanks for sharing! Lots of mechaporn too! I always forget how much I like the 80's easthetic. I hope he does more.

 

[PBalfredo]

It irked me somewhat watching the Rebel pilot get violently blown up inside his cockpit when he got shot...I understand this is what happens all the time when "stuff gets blown up" but still...

It's a pretty brutal lingering kill shot that Star Wars normally doesn't indulge in, even when it is Imperials or other "bad guys" eating it. This fan film wears which side it roots for pretty heavily on its sleeve. I love me some TIE Fighter and I'm fine with showing the Imperials winning, though it could of done without loading the TIE Bomber with Macross missiles or giving the Interdictor a handy "Fuck yer torpedoes" button. Given how lovingly the film crafts the details from the flight sims, its a bit unfitting how it bends the canon to give the Empire handy power boosts so they win just that much harder. It kinda cheapens it a bit.

That's a bit nitpicky though, this fan film still rocks hard.

 

[Luigi87]

That was utterly phenomenal.

 

[Branduil]

I always felt like Western animation traditionally always emphasized the "animation" aspect more whereas for Anime it's the character designs and general art style that were more important

Which makes sense, as western animation has more money to pump into actual movement and animation frames. Anime has had to make up for it with more detailed characters and lighting.

As far as the differences between western animation and anime go, I'd recommend reading this.

 

[bengraven]

I miss that classic look of Anime. I want that to come back. Up until the mid to late 90's Anime maintained this unique use of color and now it's all digital and looks the same.

I was thinking this exact same thing.

I miss old school anime a lot.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

That was awesome, great work for just one guy. Would love to see more!

 

[Meesh]

I miss that classic look of Anime. I want that to come back. Up until the mid to late 90's Anime maintained this unique use of color and now it's all digital and looks the same.

I agree and not just color, but the figures themselves weren't the (sometimes)gaunt stick men we know today. Just going through some of my collection like Iczer1, Gun Buster, Dirty Pair, Project A-ko...made me wish they'd revisit that full, healthy look for characters and c'mon, the hair rocked back then.

 

[Josh7289]

Amazing, truly. If only Japanese animation companies could rekindle their former glory like this. Or even if not them, anyone else at all; no country has to have a monopoly on badass animation, after all.

So yeah, thank you, Paul Johnson and others. Even if nothing more comes from this, I greatly enjoyed watching it. Good job. Thank you.

 

[Dennis]

Amazing, truly. If only Japanese animation companies could rekindle their former glory like this.

Yeah more like this and less moeblob.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

I agree and not just color, but the figures themselves weren't the (sometimes)gaunt stick men we know today. Just going through some of my collection like Iczer1, Gun Buster, Dirty Pair, Project A-ko...made me wish they'd revisit that full, healthy look for characters and c'mon, the hair rocked back then.

I agree. I miss that "style"(80s-mid 90s anime), even in video games. I prefer the old Phantasy Star artwork to anything PSO and onward, and will always prefer Yoshitaka Tamaki over Tony Taka.

 

[sn00zer]

Maybe he was trying to invoke some Heavy Metal feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXash0oCxVE

Glad Im not the only one who thought this

 

[Coreda]

Uh... I always thought that infographic was a parody, no something "real". I mean, let's look at the part where he says it looks good because it has more tones

It's the most puke inducing amateur "pseudo-anime" art drawn by edgy 15 years old you can find on Internet.

It baffles me it's the same guy who drew these (assuming he did, why else would it be featured in that graphic). Good on him for coming a long way and making an entertaining short.

 

[metsallica]

The fact that one person did that was mind-blowing. Felt like Megazone 23, or BGC, or NeoTokyo, or Robot Carnival all smashed together and modernized. Complete with [deliberately?] stilted bits and rotoscoping. Almost felt like Tron: Uprising too... and it made me sad that I'll never get to see more of that show.

 

[Megalosaro]

Hmm... A Star Wars cartoon done in the style of a mecha anime from the 80s would be pretty sweet. I'm a sucker for interior shots of exploding cockpits and Itano Circuses.

 

[Ridli]

D:

That is the sexiest damn thing I've ever seen.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Animation was fantastic. Sound effects were fantastic.

It baffles me it's the same guy who drew these (assuming he did, why else would it be featured in that graphic). Good on him for coming a long way and making an entertaining short.

Practice makes perfect.

 

[XxSlasherMcGirkxX]

Everything about this was amazing. Yes even the music, great choice. I'm stunned.

 

[Sobriquet]

That was fantastic. The music was apt for the style/period he was going for.

 

[Entropia]

That was pretty fun to watch.

 

[Coreda]

Practice makes perfect.

Looking over his DeviantArt account it appears the graphic posted earlier featured artwork from 2001, so it's been a while since his artwork has looked quite like that. My first impression was this was a more recent change, as the graphic gets posted in many threads.

 

[Narag]

Maybe he was trying to invoke some Heavy Metal feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXash0oCxVE

Whoa, this is great. Got such a Heavy Metal vibe it initially so I'm glad someone did the followup work!

oh 2012, point still kinda stands!

 

[BeatResetsTheWorld]

It doesn't sound like a throwback to anime of that time period to me...

It sounds like a throwback to dub anime trailers of that time. I feel like I could see Manga Entertainment definitely creating trailers with music like that

 

[Discotheque]

i would honestly take a star wars show that looks like this more than another genndy tartakovsky one, it's so beautiful.

 

[Regulus Tera]

I thought Otaking had retracted his statements about anime shading in a 4chan thread a while ago.

Also I'm pretty sure he didn't have to deliver this in a very tight schedule while sleeping under his desk.

 

[Divvy]

Yeah the problem with complexity in 2D animation was never about willingness. Plenty of animators would be very willing to do complicated and enjoyable animation. The issue has always been of budget and schedules. No publisher wants to fund that kind of project anymore.

 

[Passive Assassin]

Simply awesome.

10/10