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Titan submarine for Titanic tourism - Nightmare fuel

NecrosaroIII

Ultimate DQ Fan
Wow, so they likely detected something was wrong with the hull and tried to issue an emergency, probably realizing right there and then that it was too late and they were done for. I can't imagine the panic & stress they went through in their last moments.

The sensor would have gone off nigh-instantly before it rapidly decompressed.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
Jason is just a little bitch boy with no spine, last time he posted a "joke" he had people jumping on him and he backed down immediately and deleted it. It will be no different this time. He's a bell end who won't stand by what he says. Bloomberg should just sack him

This is the last one I can remember

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Edit - Just as I said above, deleted. So here it is for prosperity.

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GOTTEM

Schreier immediately after he posted that:

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That's possible, but I think the way carbon fiber fails is different than metal, so instead of slowly deforming, the whole thing implodes in an instant. I think that the vessel probably imploded before the sensors had time to detect anything was wrong.

Edit: Or perhaps more likely, the vessel imploded so quickly that even if the sensor alarms did go off, the passengers were dead before their brains have time to process that event.

Yep I've read carbon fiber would shatter like porcelaine and that process is instantaneous compared to other materials. That's if the failure point was the carbon fiber hull. It could have failed at the forward viewport and the sensors detected it there. We'll only know once they can recover the main part of the vessel. I'm pretty sure they'll get to recover that since they found some of the debris.
 

Sleepwalker

Member

Wife of missing submersible pilot is a descendant from Titanic couple who perished​



Wendy Rush, the wife of the executive who piloted the submersible that has been the subject of a desperate search after it went missing during a dive to the Titanic wreckage, has a personal connection to the ship.

Rush is the is the great-great granddaughter of retailing magnate Isidor Straus and his wife, Ida, who were part of the group of more than 1500 people who died during the Titanic’s maiden voyage, according to New York Times archive records.
 

SirTerry-T

Member
Fucking hell, at least it would have been quick. If there's one good thing that comes out of this tragedy let it be that people leave The Titanic in peace now, it's a burial site not a tourist attraction.

I'm reminded of the Byford Dolphin disaster for some reason, pressure be it air, water....or just being part of the rat race is a bloody killer.
 
The company states there’s a real time monitoring system for the hull integrity. It’s likely they had warning something was wrong. I read they used ballast which means they were trying to surface.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
That's possible, but I think the way carbon fiber fails is different than metal, so instead of slowly deforming, the whole thing implodes in an instant. I think that the vessel probably imploded before the sensors had time to detect anything was wrong.

When the metal buckle for implosion it’s as fast. Difference is that the metal will be in one squashed piece while apparently carbon fiber will be more like porcelain and shatter.
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill

His name is James, James Cameron
The bravest pioneer
No budget too steep, no sea too deep
Who's that?
It's him, James Cameron
James, James Cameron explorer of the sea
With a dying thirst to be the first
Could it be? Yeah that's him!
James Cameron
 
I’m usually not like that but… this.

What the hell were they thinking jumping into a submarine operated with an Xbox controller…

That's fucked up but that's the least of this project's problems. The main one being the carbon fibre hull. That's likely where the breach was.

Could also be the forward viewport which was only pressure tested to a depth of 1300m. These guys were at 3500m when it likely imploded. So many ways the extreme pressure could have found a weakness in the vessel, its insane.

My hope is they stop all tours to the wreck site. People have been treating it like an amusement park ride for far too long.
 
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Gp1

Member
The Wall Street Journal has also now reported that a highly classified U.S. Navy underwater sensor network designed to monitor for potential submarine activity detected the implosion days ago.

So the Navy knew what happened for some time, the expedition/rescue was just to confirm.
 
Jason is just a little bitch boy with no spine, last time he posted a "joke" he had people jumping on him and he backed down immediately and deleted it. It will be no different this time. He's a bell end who won't stand by what he says. Bloomberg should just sack him

This is the last one I can remember

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Edit - Just as I said above, deleted. So here it is for prosperity.

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If you want to make shitty jokes and say "wrong" things, that's fine. But knowing how this guy treats himself as a moral authority, and so many other people as "bad," and beneath him, and worthy of being socially ostracized, WOW what a hypocrite.
 


Just watch this. He guessed correctly that it imploded instantly. Also goes over the many questionable design choices. It had no voice communication with the support ship. It wasn't even tested at the depth where they would be submerging to. There was no way to ventilate the hull or open the hatch from the inside, so even if the fail safe system kicked in and it floated to the surface, you are still locked inside a tube with no emergency air supply.
 

Buggy Loop

Member


Interesting

So they assume they got a sensor signal that the carbon fiber shell was cracking (oh god the panic they must have had), because they had dropped their assent weights. They had time to push the button at the very least while the warning was going on and then BOOM.

I'm pretty sure when it starts to de-laminate at those depths, even as you decide to go up, the pressure will make the shell a critical failure point.
 

GHG

Gold Member
Interesting

So they assume they got a sensor signal that the carbon fiber shell was cracking (oh god the panic they must have had), because they had dropped their assent weights. They had time to push the button at the very least while the warning was going on and then BOOM.

I'm pretty sure when it starts to de-laminate at those depths, even as you decide to go up, the pressure will make the shell a critical failure point.

Yep it would have taken time to ascend to depths with safer levels of pressure, time they were not afforded.

Tragic.
 
Mind blowing they even found the wreckage so fast

They knew where it was because a US navy vessel detected underwater sounds consistent with an implosion the very day the sub lost contact with the surface. They used that data to locate the debris.

This banging noises and oxygen supply running out stuff the media was paroting this past week was all BS.

They likely knew which area to search but maybe didn't have the equipment ready on hand to do it anyway. Also they could've released this information sooner instead of giving people hope they would be able to find and rescue these guys.
"Hey guys, we heard underwate sound that was consistent with an implosion. The sub lost comms, contact with the surface and all other forms of navigation simultaneously. It's likely an implosion"

You know 1+1 = 2. That type of thing.

No idea why this was turned into this rescue saga for this whole fucking week where they have a fucking countdown oxygen clock and everything when they knew the likely result was the deep ocean pressure turned 5 guys into red paste.



The US Navy detected sounds "consistent with an implosion" shortly after OceanGate's Titan submersible lost contact, a navy official has said.
The official told CBS News their information about the "acoustic anomaly" had been used by the US Coast Guard to narrow the search area.
 
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Draugoth

Gold Member


Here's an implosion at 1ATM for comparassion.



Now picture that but 39x times worse

I had read that one of them, besides the CEO, had been on this trip multiple times and was a huge Titanic historian. At least he died doing something he truly loved.

They were basically killed because the CEO was too full of himself to actually spend his time to build a safe craft
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
No idea why this was turned into this rescue saga for this whole fucking week where they have a fucking countdown oxygen clock and everything when they knew the likely result was the deep ocean pressure turned 5 guys into red paste.
To distract us from the real "truthiness" about inner earth interdimensional time traveling future humans and UAPs remember that story before this one took over?
 

FUBARx89

Member
If you want to make shitty jokes and say "wrong" things, that's fine. But knowing how this guy treats himself as a moral authority, and so many other people as "bad," and beneath him, and worthy of being socially ostracized, WOW what a hypocrite.

Oh aye of course. You don't act hoiler than thou, preaching how everyone must do better etc etc (as he does, the insufferable cock) then turn around and crack a joke about 5 people dying.

Apparently the 19 year old lad was absolutely terrified of getting into the sub and going down to the wreck. His aunt said he only went in it for his dad as a fathers day thing. I find it absolutely tragic a young lad, who hasn't lived his life has died trying to make his dad happy.

Also, let's be honest, we all knew as soon as it was announced it was missing and it was a rescue operation they'd all died that day.

The company has some serious questions to answer about that sub, more so when it's came out the CEO broke rules making him dumb arse submarine and seemingly ignored warnings and requests to get the sub certified etc.
 
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Gp1

Member


Just watch this. He guessed correctly that it imploded instantly. Also goes over the many questionable design choices. It had no voice communication with the support ship. It wasn't even tested at the depth where they would be submerging to. There was no way to ventilate the hull or open the hatch from the inside, so even if the fail safe system kicked in and it floated to the surface, you are still locked inside a tube with no emergency air supply.


I've been following this guy for quite sometime (since he was doing Cold Water lives). He was a submariner/sonar specialist for his entire carrer.
 

Neff

Member
Cameron was on the money. It doesn't matter how strong your carbon tube is, it needs total, equalised integrity, and you only get that from contiguous structure and material.

Rush really was a delusional cunt.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
I've been following this guy for quite sometime (since he was doing Cold Water lives). He was a submariner/sonar specialist for his entire carrer.

Tsk, what does he know?

He's an old dude in his 50's!

/s

To distract us from the real "truthiness" about inner earth interdimensional time traveling future humans and UAPs remember that story before this one took over?

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What?
 
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kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Horrendous way to go.

When the submersible collapsed they were dead within 30 milliseconds. That's a much better way to go than dying of lack of oxygen after four days being stuck in a tiny capsule at the bottom of the ocean.
 


James Cameron, Bob Ballard and the deep submersible community all knew, according to the data released early on Sunday that everything, all evidence pointed to an implosion.

Both James and Bob are going on a media blitz at the moment sharing their thoughts on this tragedy. You won't have to search very hard on YouTube to find some interesting truth bombs on this whole scenario.

Shocking that another team tried coming up with the same carbon fiber composite design to go to even deeper waters at Challenger Deep, the deepest point in the ocean. Pressure at that depth is x3 times that of where the Titan got crushed.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
The actual implosion sounds like a zero issue since every demo and analysis says it happened in a fraction of a second. Insta-death.

The agony would be if all 5 people cramped in a steel mini-sub could see it coming where it didn't suddenly happen out of the blue, but lets say the sub lost power or navigation and it slowly drifted into the death zone for half an hour. Everyone is panicking, the ceo idiot is fumbling with his gamepad, and all the people are rolling on top of each other. Then it imploded.
 
Wow, given that the speed of sound is 1125ft/s that means 30ms is 33.75ft. That flood of water was close to supersonic.
Hmm, so 30ms is somehow related to 30 minutes interval bang sound the craft registered? Could be the sound wave was slowed down by water and it echoed on to the surface very very slowly?

Also I am too baffled by cutting corners with the design of this thing. Wouldn't get on this tin can even if they paid me to do it. Regulations are there for a reason.
 
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Rentahamster

Rodent Whores


A senior Navy official said in a statement Thursday evening that the service conducted an analysis of acoustic data “and detected an anomaly consistent with an implosion or explosion” in the general vicinity of where the Titan was operating when it stopped communicating.

“While not definitive, this information was immediately shared with the Incident Commander to assist with the ongoing search and rescue mission,” the statement said. “This information was considered with the compilation of additional acoustic data provided by other partners and the decision was made to continue our mission as a search and rescue and make every effort to save the lives on board.”
Another Navy official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation, said that the service does not typically share such information publicly until the search for survivors ends. The information gathered, this official said, is a “data point.”
 

Mohonky

Member


Just watch this. He guessed correctly that it imploded instantly. Also goes over the many questionable design choices. It had no voice communication with the support ship. It wasn't even tested at the depth where they would be submerging to. There was no way to ventilate the hull or open the hatch from the inside, so even if the fail safe system kicked in and it floated to the surface, you are still locked inside a tube with no emergency air supply.

Good lord, the hiring process.

Diversity hires for the sake of 'innovation and excitement'. As opposed to maybe hiring for experience and know how.
 
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