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Tom Henderson: New PS5 with detachable disc drive test kit in people's hands, "works flawlessly"
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kiphalfton
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Logic eludes some people here.
fart town usa
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I'm still not sure what the point of this thing is....unless they are getting rid of the digital only console and selling the optional one alongside the stock disc drive version. That would make sense to me but not sure if that's the plan.
My PS5 allows discs. I feel like you'd have to be crazy to willingly go without the drive. That being said, I buy most of my games digital but I still want to be able to play physical games and watch physical 4k discs. To each their own.
My PS5 allows discs. I feel like you'd have to be crazy to willingly go without the drive. That being said, I buy most of my games digital but I still want to be able to play physical games and watch physical 4k discs. To each their own.
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HeisenbergFX4
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fart town usa
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Thanks for that. That makes sense.
Eddie-Griffin
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No, you're are not paying attention the the market right now, and not actually thinking about about the issue involved.
If you want to believe assuming this ends up being real that this PS5 is going to be $399 or other country PS5D price and replace the $499 PS5, and that the add-on will just make this PS5 the same price as the current one, that is very optimistic.
cash_longfellow
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I literally never once thought about detaching my hard drive from my ps5 at any point in time. Wtf is the point of this? 
Edit - I saw Tom the Bombs explanation for it, and again I ask, wtf is the point of this?
Edit - I saw Tom the Bombs explanation for it, and again I ask, wtf is the point of this?
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HeisenbergFX4
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Saving Sony money, thats itI literally never once thought about detaching my hard drive from my ps5 at any point in time. Wtf is the point of this?
Edit - I saw Tom the Bombs explanation for it, and again I ask, wtf is the point of this?
cash_longfellow
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I’m all for saving money, because I’m old and have a shit ton of bills now….but how does it REALLY save Sony money?…come on now
UltimaKilo
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Would make sense to finally shrink the console down to be even smaller and lighter in order to bring costs down further. Maybe a smaller GPU/CPU?
UltimaKilo
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In manufacturing, costs come down by volume of orders. This allows them to put in a lot more orders for one unified system, significantly cutting costs.
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Wouldn't this effectively be a price increase? PS5 with disc drive discontinued. Redesigned PS5 digital priced at perhaps $499.99; USB Disc drive "Packaged" for $549.
No more $399 PS5 Digital, because all PS5s are effectively digital that can come with a USB Disc Drive?
I was thinking something similar.But how big is it going to be? Like, physically?
Getting these kinds of vibes
playsaves3
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This may actually affect the pro models
ProtoByte
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How do you mean?
playsaves3
Member
Right there with you there a would literally be no reason for me tos tick to console at thay point
playsaves3
Member
Would be nice if pc had the option to play discs its what stopped me from investing there and i could collect even more games
ReBurn
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tbh I'd probably buy the peripheral just to have it even though I'm mostly digital anywaySo cut costs with a single sku.....
...and raise prices with an overpriced peripheral
Early adopter for the win?
Daniel_Mallorca1985
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PS5 Pro???
Daniel_Mallorca1985
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Wooxsvan
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ya, the older models will stop being manufactured. makes perfect sense. I got 2 PS5 DE anyway. bring it on.
Regarding the potential Pro model, id guess this new strategy of separating the disc drive will allow them to keep cost down. It might ensure even more of the cost goes to graphics/cpu/storage/ram etc. instead of a useless (ha) disc drive.
Dr. Acid Avatar
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Digital is great and I love getting some of my games on the PSN store but I cannot imagine being fully dependent on the prices they have listed. Dark Souls 3 is 60 bucks on PSN for just the base game vs 25 bucks for the complete edition on Amazon. Sure I could wait on a sale but if I wanted to play it now I'd be cursing myself for buying a digital only console.
Having a detachable drive gives gamers another buying option.
Having a detachable drive gives gamers another buying option.
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thismeinteil
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It's crazy how many people don't get the point of this. Or maybe they're faking that they don't?
This just makes production much easier and cheaper, as you're only making one console, with one form. It also makes shipping new consoles cheaper, as that is done by weight, and the new consoles will be much lighter and smaller. They'll probably only have to get out 50% as many drives as there are consoles, since not everyone will want one, where now they are effectively paying to ship drives with most of their consoles.
If there is a future Pro model, it also allows them to focus on making it smaller (cheaper to produce and ship) and without the disk drive, they probably can get it a little cheaper, as well. I really see a PS5 Slim for $399 and a Pro for $499, with the detachable drive, which can work on either model, being $50-$100.
This just makes production much easier and cheaper, as you're only making one console, with one form. It also makes shipping new consoles cheaper, as that is done by weight, and the new consoles will be much lighter and smaller. They'll probably only have to get out 50% as many drives as there are consoles, since not everyone will want one, where now they are effectively paying to ship drives with most of their consoles.
If there is a future Pro model, it also allows them to focus on making it smaller (cheaper to produce and ship) and without the disk drive, they probably can get it a little cheaper, as well. I really see a PS5 Slim for $399 and a Pro for $499, with the detachable drive, which can work on either model, being $50-$100.
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MasterCornholio
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I don't believe your correct about then raking advantage of consumers by charging more for a new model of the system. Like Tom said its to cut costs and will most likely end up being priced the same. They are not going to charge 600$ for the base model and then sell the drive separately for 150$.
The leaks don't support what your saying.
Unlike you I understand perfectly what the objective here is.
Explained it better than I could. Thank you.
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ProtoByte
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My only disagreement with this is the Pro model.
When they do it, it better have a disk drive. I don't care if it's 550-600 USD - the whole point is for it to be premium. Everything and more in the package. Skimping on a disk drive just isn't right for that.
Topher
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I don't think anything is crazy when we haven't seen it yet. Right off the bat when I see "detachable drive" then no, sorry but I don't get the point. When I see it maybe it will click. I get your point about making it smaller, cheaper and the potential for a Pro model. All that makes sense and I'm for it, but I have doubts about the drive. Nothing wrong with a healthy bit of doubt, imo.
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Putonahappyface
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Putonahappyface
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I'll be genuinely surprised if it's not smaller.I wonder how much smaller this modular console will be compared to the original PS5 and if the PS5 PRO will be same size as the original (or even bigger).
nial
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The same price as the current digital PS5? That wouldn't make any sense.
Edit: Is everyone here really forgetting that slim consoles are supposed to be smaller and cheaper? In North America it will cost $300.
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SSfox
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I hope Sony will go back to full black colors design.
kyliethicc
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The point is
1) it simplifies manufacturing and will allow Sony to make more units faster.
2) For the user, it offers a lower entry point. Currently, if you want a PS5 and simply the ability to maybe one day play a disc, you have to pay $500 upfront. With this new model, you will be able to pay $400 upfront for a PS5 and still have the option to buy a drive later if you want. This is not possible currently with the PS5 Digital Edition.
3) And it will offer the ability to replace just the drive if it fails, without needing to buy whole a new console.
asdasdasdbb
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I would say that it's not out of the question it is $449. Hopefully it will also include double the storage space.
Def won't be less than $399.
Topher
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There is a lot of details we are missing. We don't know price so we can't come to any conclusions there. We don't know how the detachable drive will be implemented. Hopefully it will be done in an attractive way with emphasis on ease of use. But we don't know that either. Just reserving judgement until I see it in its entirety.
YOU PC BRO?!
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I don't understand all the people in here that are so down with an all digital future.
Have you guys taken a look at digital prices? Often they are more expensive than retail. Doesn't it bother you that all you have to show for your money post purchase is a non transferrable digital licence? That you can no longer sell or trade in games?
I have played most of the big games released for the PS5. I keep the games I like the most but trade the others. I recently traded 4 - 5 PS5 games that I had finished and received £120 in store credit at a local retailer. I was then able to pick up GoW Ragnarok on launch along with a new controller.
I get the convenience argument in support of digital. I understand that there may occasionally be a good deal in an online marketplace sale. What I just don't get is people shitting on what is undeniably the cheapest and most consumer friendly way to play games short of subscription services. Hell, on numerous occasions I have purchased a full price game, completed it, then sold it a few weeks later for almost as much as it cost in the first place. I've been doing this for decades.
For me, I sometimes like to go into a video game store and look around. Call it nostalgic but an all digital future effectively 'Blockbusters' retail game stores. If they die, the second hand market dies. Then we are at the mercy of the publishers as to what we will pay. We will be locked into buying from the online marketplace. That means that there will be far less impetus to reduce the cost of offerings. We will all pay more. Ask yourself, is that really good for us consumers?
Have you guys taken a look at digital prices? Often they are more expensive than retail. Doesn't it bother you that all you have to show for your money post purchase is a non transferrable digital licence? That you can no longer sell or trade in games?
I have played most of the big games released for the PS5. I keep the games I like the most but trade the others. I recently traded 4 - 5 PS5 games that I had finished and received £120 in store credit at a local retailer. I was then able to pick up GoW Ragnarok on launch along with a new controller.
I get the convenience argument in support of digital. I understand that there may occasionally be a good deal in an online marketplace sale. What I just don't get is people shitting on what is undeniably the cheapest and most consumer friendly way to play games short of subscription services. Hell, on numerous occasions I have purchased a full price game, completed it, then sold it a few weeks later for almost as much as it cost in the first place. I've been doing this for decades.
For me, I sometimes like to go into a video game store and look around. Call it nostalgic but an all digital future effectively 'Blockbusters' retail game stores. If they die, the second hand market dies. Then we are at the mercy of the publishers as to what we will pay. We will be locked into buying from the online marketplace. That means that there will be far less impetus to reduce the cost of offerings. We will all pay more. Ask yourself, is that really good for us consumers?
nial
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HeisenbergFX4
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I honestly think some are straight up trolling
I could see this being the model moving forward not coming with a disk drive but giving us the option of adding one
DonJorginho
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Was gonna wait for this to upgrade my Digital Edition but decided to just get a disc edition today instead! #DiscNation
PhaseJump
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sendit
Member
Fixed your post to be inclusive.Industry is preparing for a digital only future. Enjoy!
Topher
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Maybe you and
kyliethicc
are right and I'm just being thick-headed. Perhaps I should be more open to this as having the option to add a drive is better than not having one at all. I guess part of me is expecting that to be the next step.
MasterCornholio
Member
Maybe you and
Disks are a huge part of consoles. But it's true they can shift to digital only systems. However as long as there's demand for physical copies I don't believe they will go away.
sendit
Member
Lol…that’s the point. Sony doesn’t necessarily want it to be successful. This is to appease the two people who still buy physical, use a cassette player in their cars, have stupid tower racks of DVDs, etc.
The future is digital.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/190225/digital-and-physical-game-sales-in-the-us-since-2009/
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Gamerguy84
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I'm happy that it works instead of the alternative.
HeisenbergFX4
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Not you I know you are not trollingMaybe you and
I just think if they can roll one console off the assembly line and only have one set of packaging they will save costs then give us the choice if the console is all digital or if we want the disk drive
Like you have said it comes down to pricing as no way they can stay at $499 without the drive but I have a hard time seeing $399
Sony sure isn't doing it for us they just care about their bottom line
reinking
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I do not think it will happen any time soon but it would be easy for Sony to limit or drop production of the drive and push people toward digital.Maybe you and
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