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Tom Henderson: "Xbox baffled by the extend of rumors. Sources tell nothing set in stone for xbox ports apart from Hifi Rush and Sea of Thieves"
Topher
Gold Member
Pretty much. When I see even new music coming out on both vinyl and CDs then it seems incredibly obvious to me that a market doesn't have to be large for business to sell to that market.
You mean you just now realized there are warriors in this console war?
twilo99
Member
I underestimated the level of passion…
Topher
Gold Member
Dat Xbox tax
Isa
Member
I get the contemplation about its viability, but records aren't just for hipsters in my opinion. In the metal underground vinyl has been still going for ages and one can get great editions or sets of albums at decent prices. Also other genres as well, such as OSTs for older movies and games. For many its the ambiance and experience. I can concur as well, for friends that have the setup, sitting back in a lit space absorbing the atmosphere and music can be ethereal, almost spiritual. But then again I prefer analog sounds and have grown to greatly dislike overproduced protools pop stuff.
I'm happy it survived as well as casettes, some albums and demos actually sound better on an intentionally mangled casette tape making the sound much more disturbing and twisted, perfect for some cosmic horror death metal.
drganon
Member
DrFigs
Member
This is the power of copium. It's really powerful stuff.
Isa
Member
A political tactic as well. Say something absurd for some plan ahead, and then wait for any backlash. Then walk it back to a more "reasonable" medium but still pushing towards something that many don't want(reduction of rights, higher taxes etc). Its really a business tactic as well, bartering or haggling for example.
For me personally I've been waiting to see what MS say, since I own everything and have lately been maining Series X I have some investment in the system. But if they are going to just publish stuff elsewhere I'll stop buying there. Saves me money and I can coalesce my collection into a more cohesive state. Frankly this move or lack thereof by MS is stupid and they get what they deserve. No real exclusives is terrible business for a platform. And just as they were finally making headway into getting Asian support as well. Such a shame.
I don't intend to sell since I collect systems and games, and its another UHD drive my girl and I use frequently.
Danwan224
Member
Lol the people that created and fueled all this are mostly within Microsoft's own network of shills.
You know Jez Corden, Tom Warren, Timdog, Xboxera and the likes so it's hilarious that you're accusing "media".
It's just a total PR fuck up based on internally leaked info where Microsoft was able to drive to meltdown the same tools they use to create and drive narratives for them.
Microsoft not denying anything but actually confirming there's a change in business/vision but needing time to be able to announce something coherent is just another amateur misstep, and again it's all on them not the media.
reinking
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The most likely explanation for the Starfield talk is that it was just speculation. Most of these people didn’t really stick their neck out with a strong degree of certainty, which is why you have people like Grubb eager to point out that they never said plans were firm.
I don’t believe any xbox exec would have been caught by surprise with respect to fan sentiment about more multiplatform ports.
Yeah, let’s pretend we don’t know folks were making threads here based on IGN articles, Zuby_Tech tweets, Grubb’s podcasts and datamines of Hi-Fi Rush.
Disco Dave
Member
I'd buy a Blue Dragon port for PS5.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar business and what you're saying is absurd. Their "genuine jobs" are to literally make Xbox as profitable as possible.
Yes, they want to risk losing massive amounts of marketshare and consumer goodwill because they have a grudge against a couple dumbassess on YouTube and Twitter.
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Xboxera stuck their neck out and said it fairly confidently. Unless you're saying xboxera's xbox sources were speculating.
This is the opposite of what Tom Henderson is saying but who knows what the play is here.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Tom Warren reports at least one more "big" Xbox exclusive game that is coming to PS5, in addition to Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves.
Topher
Gold Member
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Tom Warren should just shut his mouth just like every other "insider" who are just click chasers.
MarkMe2525
Member
I believe what caught them by surprise was how MS making good on their stated intentions to port "games that make sense, on a case by case basis", evolved into "Xbox is going to bring all 1st party games to PS5 and Switch 2" within a 72 hour timespan. Admittedly, I may have my timeline incorrect, as it was a lot happening rather quickly.
Edit: and of course, the rumors were not limited to this.
Edit edit: I wanted to add that if it was handled correctly, I don't find anything wrong with MS having staggered releases, which would result in their 1st party games heading to other consoles. I think Sony handles their PC ports well, so MS could roll out their 3rd party console ports in a similar manner.
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Sanepar
Member
No one does a business event with new strategy for Xbox future for HiFi Rush and SOT. Only the crazy fanboys still are on denial phase and remember guys most of mods, admins and even insiders from Era are xbox fanboys who are mad with all this.
TrippleA345
Member
Looks like the guy on the left is sick. Like defeated sick.
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MarkMe2525
Member
Agreed, MS already stated their intent to port games "that made sense" on a case by case basis. We should believe them.
In my opinion though, it was the more radical rumors (leaving console space,
becoming a conventional 3rd party producer) which really started to rile the hardcore community up.
Astray
Gold Member
Watched a few mins of the interview, Destin said he just woke up to do the interview lol.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
No. That statement was in regards to Zenimax Bethesda games before the acquisition closed to appeal to regulators. 2 days after the acquisition closed, Phil changed his stance and said, "If you're an Xbox customer, the thing I want you to know is this is about delivering great exclusive games for you, that ship on platforms where Game Pass exists. That's our goal. That's why we're doing this."
And if the Sea of Thieves does get ported as per the rumors, that "case by case" statement doesn't cover that anyway.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Exactly.
MarkMe2525
Member
?? Both statements can be true. Phil can port games, and still bring "great exclusive games to platforms where gamepass exists." These are not mutually exclusive.
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Bry0
Member
Tom is reporting spin. MS doesn't have to calm the waters they just feed it to guys like Tom who do it for enthusiasts like us paying attention to it. "Only these 2 games are confirmed" Yeah technically I'm sure that's true but it would be surprising if it stopped right there. All that means to me is "the ink is still drying on the contracts for the other games" lol.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yep. Ports also usually happen one by one. No company would release all their games in one quarter and then leave nothing for the rest of the year. They always spread their revenue and avoid game sales cannibalization.
2-3 games may get announced for now. Other games will follow as they get ready and enough time passes between releases.
Timed exclusivity with late ports isn’t exactly the same as the ‘third party’ rumors that were everywhere in the last week.
I suppose we’ll know for sure next week
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Maybe they could fix the tearing.
ManaByte
Gold Member
SoT Is a GaaS MMO and extremely popular with streamers. That game makes the most sense to port everywhere. A Switch 2 port to play it portable would be amazing.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
Yeah they're all awsome thats why xbox is in such good position in the market right now.
For me Killer Instinct ... the rest I really dont care
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Bernardougf
Gold Member
Theres a lot of green rats in the streets needing that brush buddy... check the local gamestop you may catch some returning their plastic boxes
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Isn't that already fixed via Series S|X backwards compatibility? Forced V-Sync and 16x AF are applied on all games, IIRC.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Well, that's kind of the point that people are making, right?
It's like you said, they can't win. No matter what they do, Xbox is fucked.
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Megatron
Member
He is now.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
He wont be for long
Topher
Gold Member
One would think that all this drama would be enough to make him realize how stupid being a "fanboy" really is.
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jm89
Member
The moment that business update happens and if it's not as bad as people are thinking he'll be back on his bullshit.
I listened to one of his spaces on twitter and I swear he seems more hurt that Phil gave him a generic reply to his queries regarding this, then more Xbox games going multiplat
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DaGwaphics
Member
These leaks seem to all originate from Xbox friendly outlets, that's what got the fans nervous. It kind of magnifies on you if you make the mistake of going down the social media rabbit hole with it. Others probably have as well and that triggers the overreactions. If it had originated from known PS fans or the sites that like taking shots at Xbox people wouldn't have bothered to pay attention to it.
If MS didn't want these leaks to happen, the shape shifting is probably just these guys trying to protect their sources.
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Horseganador
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Topher
Gold Member
I'm not buying that as Warren said this would be surprise everyone. Even before these latest rumors started there was speculation that Indy was going to PlayStation so that doesn't seem like something that would surprise anyone at all.
Nah. There wasn’t any speculation about Indy being multiplatform until this recent flurry. We already knew from last year that MS struck a deal with Disney to change it to a full exclusive title.
Topher
Gold Member
I recall plenty of speculation on that, but either way, the game Warren is talking about he says is factually coming to PS. Indiana Jones doesn't sound like that game considering what Warren said yesterday....