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News Tom Warren: Lockhart GPU will have 20CUs

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Hmmmm.....how is he getting this info so readily? And it's that too many CUs for a 4TF console?
 
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My guess is that it will have the same 1.826 clockspeed with 20CUs meaning around 4.6TF, or around the graphical power of a PS4 Pro just to make it easier to optimize the games for across the different resolutions
 
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The specs on the Lockhart just don’t make sense with the One X being a thing. I get that it’s a different architecture, but I don’t see why they’d improve the CPU and then have a seemingly weaker GPU than the One X.

I’m ready for them to talk about this thing and tell me what their performance target is.
 
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Many many kids are going to be happy when they get this tidy piece of kit for xmas! Cute.
Yup.

And for the more casual gamers and families not wanting to spend $500 on a PS5 or SeX, they will be able to get two Lockharts if they want.

One for upstairs, one for downstairs. Or maybe one for the cottage.

I've always been a one console person (with exception of having a Genesis and SNES at the same time. Genesis for aracde and sports, SNES for Konami/Capcom games), but I'm amazed when some people I know have TWO of the same console.

And it's never them getting two high priced systems. Instead, two low priced systems. Or perhaps one when it's high, but a second 4 years later when it's cheap. Tons of people seemed to have two PS2s.
 
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The specs on the Lockhart just don’t make sense with the One X being a thing. I get that it’s a different architecture, but I don’t see why they’d improve the CPU and then have a seemingly weaker GPU than the One X.

I’m ready for them to talk about this thing and tell me what their performance target is.
XB1X will be phased out. You're comparing RDNA 2 vs GCN. RDNA2 is significantly more efficient, allowing for significantly better performance than a GCN GPU.

XB1X does not have a Zen 2 CPU or a SSD. XB1X will not be able to play games built exclusively for next gen that require a SSD and Zen 2 CPU.
 
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XB1X will be phased out. You're comparing RDNA 2 vs GCN. RDNA2 is significantly more efficient, allowing for significantly better performance than a GCN GPU.

XB1X does not have a Zen 2 CPU or a SSD. XB1X will not be able to play games built exclusively for next gen that require a SSD and Zen 2 CPU.
Yeah, the XB1X is actually already discontinued. Any that are still available for sale are just still in the sales channel, although they seem to be out of stock pretty much everywhere that I've seen.
 

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The specs on the Lockhart just don’t make sense with the One X being a thing. I get that it’s a different architecture, but I don’t see why they’d improve the CPU and then have a seemingly weaker GPU than the One X.

I’m ready for them to talk about this thing and tell me what their performance target is.
It's not weaker though, RDNA has a 50% performance increase over GCN and RDNA2 has another increase on top so 4tf works out handily more powerful than a one x.
 

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The specs on the Lockhart just don’t make sense with the One X being a thing. I get that it’s a different architecture, but I don’t see why they’d improve the CPU and then have a seemingly weaker GPU than the One X.

I’m ready for them to talk about this thing and tell me what their performance target is.
The same reason MS sells a Surface Pro with a Core i3, 4GB of RAM and a 128 GB SSD. Price. They want a cheap upgrade path for One S and X owners. There's tiered SKUs for every product under the sun. Why not consoles? Not every gamer has a 4K TV with HDMI 2.1. But they would love to play games with shiny new graphics, bigger worlds and no load times.
 
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Yup. That's why you replied to this thread 😂😂
Somebody had to say it.... I mean, only Xbox would have this braindead strategy to build up the Tflops count as the most important thing. The be-all and end-all to next gen, while downplaying the SSD cause PS5's is faster.

Then they reveal that they actually want to sell a 4 tflop machine, the Series X is just for their enthusiast crowd and will never be utilized properly to harness the advantages and deliver a next gen experience...... it's just a resolution bump machine basically.
 

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Somebody had to say it.... I mean, only Xbox would have this braindead strategy to build up the Tflops count as the most important thing. The be-all and end-all to next gen, while downplaying the SSD cause PS5's is faster.

Then they reveal that they actually want to sell a 4 tflop machine, the Series X is just for their enthusiast crowd and will never be utilized properly to harness the advantages and deliver a next gen experience...... it's just a resolution bump machine basically.
you're right someone has to be full of bad of faith on the subject and it's always same people
 
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That's 2CUs less than the 5500 XT, so probably for yield reasons they disabled some. One thing is for sure, the die will be TINY!

If they wanted to they could make a console with these specs that fits into your palm. :messenger_fire:

 
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Somebody had to say it.... I mean, only Xbox would have this braindead strategy to build up the Tflops count as the most important thing. The be-all and end-all to next gen, while downplaying the SSD cause PS5's is faster.

Then they reveal that they actually want to sell a 4 tflop machine, the Series X is just for their enthusiast crowd and will never be utilized properly to harness the advantages and deliver a next gen experience...... it's just a resolution bump machine basically.
So, if you don't care about it, then just stop. GAF have plenty of threads whre you can praise PS5 SSD until you will pass out 😉
 

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I would have got one for the bedroom if it was a cube and purple.

The daddy version under my 65 oled.
 

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So, if you don't care about it, then just stop. GAF have plenty of threads whre you can praise PS5 SSD until you will pass out 😉
Yeah, maybe I am being unfair... it could be a good idea if they make it a portable console that you can use in your car or something....
 
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Somebody had to say it.... I mean, only Xbox would have this braindead strategy to build up the Tflops count as the most important thing. The be-all and end-all to next gen, while downplaying the SSD cause PS5's is faster.

Then they reveal that they actually want to sell a 4 tflop machine, the Series X is just for their enthusiast crowd and will never be utilized properly to harness the advantages and deliver a next gen experience...... it's just a resolution bump machine basically.
SSD SSD SSD, 3D Audio !!

Do I have your attention now?
 

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Somebody had to say it.... I mean, only Xbox would have this braindead strategy to build up the Tflops count as the most important thing. The be-all and end-all to next gen, while downplaying the SSD cause PS5's is faster.

Then they reveal that they actually want to sell a 4 tflop machine, the Series X is just for their enthusiast crowd and will never be utilized properly to harness the advantages and deliver a next gen experience...... it's just a resolution bump machine basically.
Take it to meta. Nobody cares about you two and your console warring shit.
 

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Should allow them to cool it pretty easy. I cant remember but someone said its likely not going to be cube shaped like the Series and more like a traditional console. With no disc drive and having an SSD, this thing could be really small sexy.
 

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Lockhard is its real name or just a codename? Will be more powerfull than a XboneX, right? But how less powerfull compared to SeriesX?
 

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That’s pretty good for a $299 price tag. I don’t buy it that they can’t clock this thing at at least 1.8 Ghz though, so maybe lockhart will come at around 4.6 TF?

Hopefully it has the same SSD speed as the XsX though.
 
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How does it work in other industries? Do the 'journalists' report half stories there too to tease readers and help market the products?
This is one of the bizzare thing about gaming market and it's especially apparent with new console launch. Specially shit like "best gaming HW in 20 years", "you don't hear whole context" and who other shit.

Fuck corporate cocksuckers.
 
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Somebody had to say it.... I mean, only Xbox would have this braindead strategy to build up the Tflops count as the most important thing. The be-all and end-all to next gen, while downplaying the SSD cause PS5's is faster.

Then they reveal that they actually want to sell a 4 tflop machine, the Series X is just for their enthusiast crowd and will never be utilized properly to harness the advantages and deliver a next gen experience...... it's just a resolution bump machine basically.
And how would you know that? Do you have any proof? To me your post is pretty much all BS
 

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Lockhard is its real name or just a codename? Will be more powerfull than a XboneX, right? But how less powerfull compared to SeriesX?
GPU wise 1/3rd. But it’s also targeting an output that uses 1/4 of the pixels. Doesn’t need to be as powerful at 1080p.
 
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Lockhard is its real name or just a codename? Will be more powerfull than a XboneX, right? But how less powerfull compared to SeriesX?
Lockhart is a codename, it will most likely be called the Xbox Series S, more powerful than the Xbox One X and way less powerful than the Series X.
 

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Lockhart is a codename, it will most likely be called the Xbox Series S, more powerful than the Xbox One X and way less powerful than the Series X.
I believe it was eurogamer flat out said it will be called Series S, but I could of made that up. I beileve a Series S trademark was filed same time as series x and the X ended up being real.