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Toonami |OT| Want to hang out and waste your night with us?
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Also, who wants to rewatch DBZ one episode a week at a time?
At least there's 1 never before aired show (well, 2)
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Oh yeah. Stupid me.
Lol no. Brotherhood has consistently awkward direction. Animation in Brotherhood is pretty great, but Kameda and Tanaka are no Yutaka Nakamuras.
Meh. It's just a rebranded Adult Swim Action. The new Toonami won't be anything special. They'll never be able to recapture the magic of 1999-2003 Toonami.
If you haven't seen it, it's too late for you to get into it now. They aren't restarting the series tomorrow night, so if you start now, you'll get into the series at about episode 35.
Yeah. As much as I prefer the manga storyline to the first anime, Brotherhood really isn't as good as it should have been. Bones put their worst team on it, and it shows.
If you haven't seen it, it's too late for you to get into it now. They aren't restarting the series tomorrow night, so if you start now, you'll get into the series at about episode 35.
Yeah. As much as I prefer the manga storyline to the first anime, Brotherhood really isn't as good as it should have been. Bones put their worst team on it, and it shows.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Wait, so you think they just didn't have enough time to gather funds and licenses and stuff? Is that how it works? Or am I completely misinterpreting what you're saying?
I don't think that's how it usually works, but I think this was a rare case where it did happen like that.
Dragoon En Regalia
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I don't think CN is truly committed to Toonami at the moment, which would explain why they're holding back on the funding. Judging by how the April Fools block was received, Mike Lazzo and co. probably consider this to be the best opportunity to see if they can regain momentum for a block like Toonami and, at the same time, be able to redress their flagging anime block on Adult Swim.
They're not bringing back Toonami. They're rebranding the anime block that already existed in order to exploit the nostalgia of the targeted audience.
Brotherhood is a different type of show compared to the original and some of what people associated with the directing was really a contrast of tone. The original series was a tragedy while Brotherhood is a more action/shonen-like show. The original cut out most of the comedic parts in the manga to focus on that tragic part which lost the balancing that Arakawa did during the series. So the directing for Brotherhood I would say was harder in certain respects, not to mention the earlier stuff where they had to recap the earlier series but make it new and interesting which resulted in them overcompensating and trying to be stylish to a fault.
rainking187
Member
Eh, I think they're going to fail. I can't speak for anyone else, but my nostalgia is for the actual shows that were on, not the Toonami name.
AceBandage
Banned
Basically, this:
I don't think they expected such an outcry from fans because of the April Fools day thing, so they didn't really prepare much. But if they waited until they got content, then it might not work as well.
Durarara is a completely different show. More to the point, the pacing isn't going to be an issue if people are sitting through shows that drag ass like Bleach and DMW. I don't get your last comment, are you saying there wasn't enough action in Casshern?
In theory they could put Kai up there and people would be interested, I think.
Bleach and DMW are certainly not slow shows. Bleach narrative arcs in of themselves are very long but that's different. Casshern Sins is composed mostly of episode involving exploration and dialogue, I would definitely say it's not an action heavy show.
I just really found a lot of the stuff in Brotherhood to be pretty... bad. Like a lot of scenes that were supposed to be emotional just came off as mawkish and obnoxious because of the stilted, obvious direction. Like the scene where
Winry confronts Scar with the gun
I also found the implementation of a lot of the slapstick humor from the manga to be ineffective and really jerked around with the tone of the show. It didn't work well. The first series did this a lot better by saving humor for when the serious moments were over or in non-serious episodes. In Brotherhood it happens in dead serious scenes out of nowhere.
that's about when the original show started.
lazybones18
Banned
none of the old shows are starting from the beginning
This looks like the same line up they have all the time on the weekends.
i agree, kinda boring. just a new coat of paint. they're gonna ruin any momentum they had.
They also did certain sequences extremely well such as all of Mustang's moments of awesome and Ed busting out of the Gate to yell at his brother. Part of the problem was pacing as it seemed they were really running out of time in certain sections.
That's more in line with the manga though. The manga used comedy in serious moments throughout too. The manga had a ton of black comedy and deadpan faces.
Future Foundation
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This block might have the quickest backlash I've ever seen.
But they should've excised that stuff. It doesn't work well when there are moving pictures and sound to go along with it.
The pacing was really... weird. I have no idea what went on there. It's not "bad" but I just felt like they misallocated time in several places and took time away from places that needed it, or just cut it out entirely like the majority of the Greed stuff iirc. Felt poorly planned out.
While I enjoyed the show because I enjoy the FMA universe and characters, the best part of Brotherhood was [at the time] new animator Yoshimichi Kameda having a place to shine. On Brotherhood he went from unknown to doing pretty much every key moment in the series. Dude is fucking amazing. BONES' next Nakamura in the making.
nope, i think miguzi has that honor. nobody wanted it and it replaced toonami.
The impossibru happens and everyone complains. Obviously if it's a success, they will consider getting different content. But you have to realize how difficult and rare it is to get corporate media to make a left turn like this. I say capitalize on it, and give them the opportunity and input they need to make it better.
Chet Rippo
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What? No Queen's Blade? I'm incredibly disappointed.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
But they should've excised that stuff. It doesn't work well when there are moving pictures and sound to go along with it.
I didn't feel like it worked well even in manga form. I read some of the beginning portion of the manga after watching the original FMA anime, and I preferred the anime's treatment of events. It was more meaningful.
I would go so far as to call the pacing bad. The beginning was rushed and the end dragged.
Well I'm talking overall. Both the ending and beginning are bad for more reasons than just the pacing, though. The ending just drops the ball completely.
Well I think it "worked" in the manga, but the first anime is just superior in pretty much every way. A shining example of source material being elevated. The FMA manga is a competent shounen adventure while the first FMA anime takes the beginning and the universe and transforms it into something special.
...and now I'm going to think about the state of modern Mizushima's output. going to go cry bye
Really? Everyone begs for Toonami to come back, but won't watch it and will let it die again? You know that Jason DeMarco said this is the best they could do with the small budget they were given. The original Toonami started out with way less and zero hype. If we can prove to AS that bringing it back was a good idea, the better shows will come.
I'll be watching it every week, even if the new shows don't capture my interest, I'll still have it on in the background. This Toonami does have the potential to be as good as it once was and I do not want to see it disappear again.
I'll be watching it every week, even if the new shows don't capture my interest, I'll still have it on in the background. This Toonami does have the potential to be as good as it once was and I do not want to see it disappear again.
FelixOrion
Poet Centuriate
I remember on April 1st, I was, for some reason, on the West Coast feed for CN.
I assume this will also be tape delayed for the west?
I assume this will also be tape delayed for the west?
So, with how ratings actually work... it doesn't actually matter if most of us watch this, right? Just those with the Nielson boxes. Doesn't seem very fair. I'm somewhat interested in the new shows, not so much Bleach, Ghost, or Bebop. I love Brotherhood but I've already seen it all.
NihonTiger90
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This. Come on, we need to prove we even want it back, or would you rather have Squidbillies reruns for three hours again on Saturday nights?
while i wouldnt mind that, i do agree. more support means more shows.
Gaylord Sweetwood
Member
So glad this is back. I lucked into catching Outlaw Star on April 1st and was immediately hit with nostalgia. I remember staying up for the Midnight Run version of Outlaw Star in 2002 when I should had been in bed. Tsuki No Le was a great way to end the night.
Now if they could only find a way to fit a small block of Toonami M-F night.
Now if they could only find a way to fit a small block of Toonami M-F night.
Probably, but I can't imagine it will do any worse than AS was already doing.
BuddyJoeHooker
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Can I still send my Artwork?
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