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Trump introduces his plan for a Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement-Agency
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If I'm reading this right then in all fell swoop he just made everyone who even legally immigrates to US as inherently dangerous and legitimized the argument of the ignorant, "he/she is one of the good ones" as very minor exception withing that pool. And, by extension, painted a huge target on the backs of all visible minorites, I.e. brown people and Muslims for hate based attacks.
So, how is this legal knowing the racial ramifications?
So, how is this legal knowing the racial ramifications?
WhateverItTakes
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Abhorrent.
Look after the people around you if you can GAF. Their lives are only gonna get harder the next few years.
Look after the people around you if you can GAF. Their lives are only gonna get harder the next few years.
Imp the Dimp
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Intended to give the US a visit (my first) this year. Not gonna happen now. I think I'll do Tokyo instead.
Prototype Viktor
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oh so the 80's D.A.R.E. level programs against black people and crack maybe we'll get our version of this
KernelPanic
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They want virtually all immigration to stop. They will keep gaslighting people that immigrants are the cause of all problems.
balladofwindfishes
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This has to be the scariest thing he's proposed thus far
All of which are in gangs
plagiarize
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Speaking as an immigrant...
If the US doesn't stand up and reject this mans shit every chance they get, I am going to have to seriously start thinking about relocating.
Which is exactly what he wants of course.
More like it's time to move to Tokyo, for me.
Abstrusity
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Ah yes, the Republican Institute for Research on Answers to the Je- er, Immigrant Question
Can't quite remember where I've seen that before.
This regime is full Nazi, now. Never again means never again.
What can protest do?
Can't quite remember where I've seen that before.
This regime is full Nazi, now. Never again means never again.
What can protest do?
With enough chance, he might have a heart attack in front of stairs before that.
But he sounds presidential! / sarcasm
This is straight up 1930s Nazi Germany type shit.
I have to be honest, I lost much of my respect for the american people. Not because they voted for Trump or didn't care enough to vote against him, but because this doesn't cause riots in the streets. I'm not talking about a one-off protest like the women's march. This is a fascist using the power granted by the american people to enact racist policies, who now plans to build up a straight up Anti Immigrant propaganda agency. This is not the time to be shocked and sad on a forum or draw funny cardboard signs. This is the type of shit that should lead to you shutting your cities down, lying down your work and spending ever free minute you have protesting. The fact that there aren't riots in the streets and people instead ask for John Stewart to come back and make funny comments on TV, as if that would change anything, is crazy to me. And I'm not even talking about the fact that over 40% of Americans still support this and are totally happy with these policies. This is exactly the time wek talk about when we look back at history and ask ourselves "What would I have done?". For much of the US the answer seems to be: "I supported it" or "I walked around with a cardboard sign once and gave 5 bucks to the ACLU". Sorry if I offend. But I just watched another white guy (this time Colin from Kinda Funny Games) being really, really mad at people comparing Trump and his policies to a fascist regime or even *gasp* the Nazis and this kind of ignorance makes me kinda fucking mad.
I have to be honest, I lost much of my respect for the american people. Not because they voted for Trump or didn't care enough to vote against him, but because this doesn't cause riots in the streets. I'm not talking about a one-off protest like the women's march. This is a fascist using the power granted by the american people to enact racist policies, who now plans to build up a straight up Anti Immigrant propaganda agency. This is not the time to be shocked and sad on a forum or draw funny cardboard signs. This is the type of shit that should lead to you shutting your cities down, lying down your work and spending ever free minute you have protesting. The fact that there aren't riots in the streets and people instead ask for John Stewart to come back and make funny comments on TV, as if that would change anything, is crazy to me. And I'm not even talking about the fact that over 40% of Americans still support this and are totally happy with these policies. This is exactly the time wek talk about when we look back at history and ask ourselves "What would I have done?". For much of the US the answer seems to be: "I supported it" or "I walked around with a cardboard sign once and gave 5 bucks to the ACLU". Sorry if I offend. But I just watched another white guy (this time Colin from Kinda Funny Games) being really, really mad at people comparing Trump and his policies to a fascist regime or even *gasp* the Nazis and this kind of ignorance makes me kinda fucking mad.
And if that happened, with this guy probably being one of three others in my 34 years alive I would agree with the mentality of I would never harm...
Abstrusity
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You're telling me. But one person won't do anything alone. Any attempt to plan this could be shut down with prejudice, and we'll be disappeared for our trouble. Very few will do what's required, and many fewer even live in an area where it would have anywhere close to a chilling effect on these "policies." Further, that sort of action might embolden them anyway. But, disabling their showcase of trumped up 'crimes?' That'd be a walk in the park comparatively.
But then you also have to consider that our institutions still work. This will be struck down by t he courts, just like the ban was. It doesn't completely solve the problem, but it keeps it from becoming a bigger one. If it ever gets to the point where the court is not enough, that's the tipping point.
plagiarize
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Yes. For now, we protest and trust in the courts (and contribute and raise money for the ACLU and SPLC). I hope we don't ever have to arm ourselves and take to the streets. But if we do have to...
psychowave
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Agree with this. So many people are just waiting for the next elections and hoping they'll be able to choose someone who isn't batshit crazy to run their country, when they should be taking to the streets and shutting the whole country down and forcibly remove this orange fuckwit from the White House. But that's too "violent" or "radical", I guess. We should make fun of them on the Internet instead, that'll teach 'em.
LegendofJoe
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Latino Americans have to organize in mass and fully engage in the political process. It's now or never. And it's why Tom Perez is now the head of the DNC. He is the perfect man to lead the fight for Latino Americans given his background.
Trump's created an anti-immigrant propaganda machine. The Know Nothings, Thomas Nasts and every xenophobic in between must be quite pleased.
We have some fantastic national ideals/myths that we could live up to. And the protests at the airports to help people come into the country showed that some want to live up to them. But...we control no branch of government. It's going to be a dark time in the US.
We have some fantastic national ideals/myths that we could live up to. And the protests at the airports to help people come into the country showed that some want to live up to them. But...we control no branch of government. It's going to be a dark time in the US.
Tal Shiar Agent
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So how long until his supporters start smashing the shop windows of immigrants?
Twist: the immigrants fight back against these twats and VICE-A publicize it like they are the bad guys
"We only smashed their windows man but they came at us, oh im sorry I'm sorry I thought this was 'merica!!!"
acheron_xl
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This is disgusting. A move so reminiscent of blaming "the Jews" that I can't even comprehend someone defending this.
But they will
I mean, I heard his speech was presidential with a capital 'p' ya know.
A indian worker got killed cause "Fuck brown people", mosques are set on fire and jewish institutions receive bomb threats.
We reached that point.
OG Shaka Zulu
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Exactly. I keep telling people around me to stop putting this on Trump alone. The entire GOP platform and rightwing media created this baby. Literally decades spent demonizing Muslims and Arabs (and every other minority).
The GOP platform is blatantly racist it angers me when relatives play dumb and won't at least acknowledge it.
Gully State
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PIt the poor and disenfranchised against each other...Keep attention away from the super wealthy while they continually raid the coffers.
test_account
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It can certainly look like that, indeed.
And has it been proven that crimes being done by immigrants are being down prioritized? And did he simply say immigrants or illegal immigrants?
Felix Lighter
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An agency designed to generate anti-immigrant propaganda. This stuff is so crazy and scary.
ElectricKaibutsu
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I read the title and took it to mean the exact opposite, that this would be an agency that helps immigrants that are victims of crime. I thought this would be in response to all the anti-immigrant attacks going on. But lol nope! It's more anti-immigrant xenophobia spreading.
Laevateinn
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All of my coworkers are immigrants. The ones still on visas have been talking pretty seriously recently about just going home once their visas expire. We're going to be losing a lot of great and talented people.
Dude... it's Trump. Why would you expect that?
I don't even know what to say at this point. I wish I could say this was unexpected, but it's not. He's literally turning our country into Nazi Germany and no one in power seems to give a shit.
It's so sad that America, a nation of immigrants, has became this. Being a melting pot will soon be said in disgust and not with pride.
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