If I was to fashion the tinfoil-hat right now, it almost feels like there may be a larger scheme at play where the things at surface level and the commentary you mentioned are just the very tip of it.
That was not an insult to you, it is just me looking at it and thinking how ridiculous this drama seems to appear (on the surface) with the complexity of everything that's involved.
As a side note, lol, has Trump ever mentioned "New World Order" yet like the all the presidents in the last 40-50 years?
I used to be a part of an end-times cultish Christian group back in the day, so I know all about the conspiracies surrounding a "New World Order." Of course now I think it's a bunch of baloney. I might as well start saying the Illuminati controls pop singers and rappers because of supposed demonic symbology in their videos. (This is a real thing people claim all the time through youtube).
In any case I don't think Obama has ever mentioned the phrase. He referenced an "international order" once in reference to the post-nuclear balance of power/NATO, since, I mean, NATO is an international order/organization of world leaders.
I think the people can only hold these powers to account if they ask for evidence. There's no reason to blindly trust US Intel and no reason to trust Putin's denial. Supply the evidence. This appeal to authority is a terrible idea.
The evidence and methods will come to light once the investigation is complete/when people start going to trial. You don't tip your hand until you're done, especially if you're still using those resources to gather evidence. Suffice it to say all of the Russian indictments and Flynn/Manafort have nothing to do with the dossier, and they certainly didn't rely solely upon cloudstrike as that company's job was literally just to trace IPs and find out how it was hacked. And if you're going to assert there's a conspiracy behind all of this then you've drunk the coolaid and I have no interest in further debating you.
It's also incredibly disingenuous to "both sides" the unethical behavior of Putin and US Intel. US intel is run by
normal American citizens. Not secret shadow governments that live in secret bunkers and hang out with the Illuminati. US Intel clearly has the best interests of America in mind even if they fuck up sometimes. Trump even appointed the heads of both agencies - yet you think Trump can't trust
his own appointees anymore than a murdering dictator that has a long history of trying to undermine the US? Christ, you sound like a Putin propaganda mouthpiece.
is trump's lethal arming of ukraine evidence of his putin puppetry, what about his bombing of assad's syria? what about his enormous expelling of russian diplomats, sanctioning of oligarchs, dismantling of iran deal ...
oh noes he never criticizes putin, is diplomatic with putin, therefore treason and stoogery?
Trump's arming of Ukraine was something his advisers constantly pushed for, as they actually give a shit about the geopolitical moves Russia is making. And in many ways Trump signing off on it was likely damage control for how his campaigned pushed the RNC to change it's policy platform on Ukraine to remove the language of supplying them "lethal defense weapons," which was largely seen as a pro-Russia move.
He bombed Syria but gave the Russians a heads up before hand so they wouldn't get mad or hurt in the bombing.
And the expelling of diplomats only happened because Russia literally assassinated someone on UK soil, because they don't give a fuck. And the Iran deal has literally nothing to do with Russia, so I'm not sure why you brought that up.
This isn't going "tough" on Putin. He's doing the bare minimum to maintain and image that he's even handed and only being tough if they, you know, chemically bomb civilians or assassinate people on our allies soil. How very tough! Ripping up trade deals to cripple their economy would be tough. Tariffs would be tough. Making any sort of public accusation against them,
which he still hasn't done, would go a long way towards dissipating the claim that he panders to Putin. But he explicitly refuses to do so. And once again this past week he says he trusts Putin more than
his own intelligence agencies of which
he appointed the leadership for. If you don't think that is fucked up than you have no understanding of the political power that words have.