Quoted for the mother fucking truth.
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Trump thanks black people that did not vote
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Quoted for the mother fucking truth.
EmpressInYellow
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I think I hate Kellyanne Conway as much (or more) as I do Trump himself.
I honestly don't think Trump is bright enough to realize the consequences of what he's doing half the time. He probably wouldn't care if he did, but he's so far out of his depth that Russian submarines have to look down to see him. That doesn't absolve him of anything, granted.
Conway, on the other hand, knows exactly what she's doing and does it anyway for cynical political gain. She's Grima Wormtongue if King Theoden were already a huge asshole. She's Screwtape without the theological excuse.
You had one side with a message direct to these people and another side saying deal with it find new jobs.
Vicetrailia
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Isn't Michigan passing some garbage voter id laws now?
You mean one side offering job training,etc?
You mean one side offering job training,etc?
benjipwns
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Well, it's a lame duck session which often kills even the most popular stuff, so we'll have to see, this has already failed in committee a few times. But here are the details:
PastorOfMuppets
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A lot of Hispanics who voted for Trump are the ones who can pass for white people. Think more Geraldo Rivera and less George Lopez.
WiiredShawn
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"Most voters," yes, but not the "Evangelical voters", who performed the greatest mental gymnastics of our time to convince themselves that Trump was a more godly person than Clinton.
Which really drives home the point that devoutly Christian voters care more about asserting their political opinions than the quality of a person's character. I don't mind people having religion, but their hypocrisy is insufferable.
GoldenEye 007
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The article bringing up race opens the door to talk about race. So I'm going to single out everyone (who were mostly white) ok with racism and hate which was and is the main and consistent message from Trump and co. Yes he said things about the economy, which are not grounded in reality.
Hillary actually had economic issues that would make sense. Like retraining because manufacturing and coal arent coming back in meaningful ways. But people member the past and just want to keep on doing what they did 20 years ago.
At this point I start to think, that the whole Internet should not forget its rules "Don't feet the trolls."
Trump can simple control the conversation by making all those extrem claims and everybody freaks out. He is the biggest Internet troll in the history of the Internet and everybody gives him ham.
Ignore his direct comments on Twitter and support actually news, where actual reporter take him apart.
Trump can simple control the conversation by making all those extrem claims and everybody freaks out. He is the biggest Internet troll in the history of the Internet and everybody gives him ham.
Ignore his direct comments on Twitter and support actually news, where actual reporter take him apart.
Yes. They're not done. That's just the beginning. They intend to hold it all, and they won't let any of it go.
Vicetrailia
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I see, thanks for posting that info.
benjipwns
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It'd be cool if they could kill the other parts but keep the free ID/birth certificate one.
And gays.
It's really mostly just about the abortion issue.
And gays.
gutter_trash
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and whiteness
Wanda/Wander
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With the election of Trump it really does feel like we're going backwards.
EmpressInYellow
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But he's still the president (well, president-elect). What he says matters, and he should be held accountable for it.
That doesn't mean we should focus on that stuff to the exclusion of actual policy, like the utter horror-show that is his current slate of cabinet nominees, but we shouldn't just totally ignore the ignorant, hateful, often delusionally counter-factual nonsense he spews, either.
benjipwns
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I mean for evangelicals supporting Trump over Hillary, when the latter is blatantly more religious.
WiiredShawn
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Considering the strong religious sentiment among Black and Hispanic voters, and the fact that the majority of them still voted for Clinton, I'm inclined to say "all of the above," with a big lean toward "whiteness."
It's not that Black Christians don't care about abortion. But it's evidently not enough to commit to the Republican party, and yet White Christians default on the Republican party. That's about whiteness and protecting whiteness. Clinton wasn't offering to protect their whiteness specifically, not like Trump. Her stance on abortion is just an easy way to disregard her platform, despite the fact that Trump has evidenced none.
Yet it is kind of accurate. Why would you have a democratic voting system that doesn't get what you want? What purpose does it serve?
Banana Aeon
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You mean lie to them and tell them that their jobs are coming back?
Regulus Tera
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"What's this? The CIA is saying I was helped by the Russians to get elected? Time to say something outrageously racist again so that the media can't focus on that instead!"
hydragonwarrior
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That's the Repub plan for the next four years. They can now set up the infrastructure they need to only get the votes they need the most and obstruct the rest.
Like any smart strategy, permanently cripple your opposition and make them stay as a minority until they fade away via your grass roots work.
And no one gives a shit they're doing this.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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The poster was clearly referring to the majority between Trump and Clinton votes, and in regards to the response chain (where the founding comment implied that the majority of Americans voted for Trump, and an additional comment asked if him being outvoted by Hillary mattered in that context), addressing the percentage of total voter and percentage out of eligible voters is simply bringing irrelevant information to the table (especially as those stats aren't particularly noteworthy in modern elections, so there's really no point in addressing them at all in such a context).
Smiles and Cries
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EmpressInYellow
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Simple answer? To keep the U.S. from electing an abolitionist.
Okay, that's not entirely fair (it kinda is, though). The real answer is that it's complicated, and there's no political will to fix a system that seemed like a great idea 250 years ago.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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That is neither what you posted nor how you framed it. You stated that it would be incorrect to claim Hillary won the majority of votes by posting her percentage of total votes cast and her percentage of total eligible voters, neither of which were relevant to a comment tree debating whether it's accurate Trump had the majority, so let's not retroactively ascribe new meaning to your initial post.
Now, beyond this specific comment tree I obviously wouldn't argue that's altogether irrelevant, but also, can you state the last time a majority of eligible voters voted for any president? It's worth noting, if only to reinforce the argument that Trump does not have a mandate here, but even when looking just at votes cast 1/3 elections were won with less than 50% of votes. So pinning too much of an argument to the 75% statistic is even less useful.
Captin Quacker
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brutal
benjipwns
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I responded to someone who tried to push the fake news that a Clinton won a majority in a Presidential election. That was all.
And in discussions of democratic legitimacy, the participation of the population should be a rather pertinent subject.
Shpeshal Nick
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So bigly was big league all this time?
That headline is, at best, highly questionable. For starters, nowhere in the article is a quote in which he thanks anyone. He is quoted as saying that people in black communities who didn't vote were almost as good as people as people who voted for him, although exactly what he means by this is open to debate. The quote offered is:
The debatable part is what is meant by 'if they had any doubt'. Who their doubts refer to could be either Trump or Clinton. On its own, one would logically infer Trump, but the 'because they felt good about me' could imply they stayed home because they felt a Trump presidency wouldn't be bad enough to force them to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt. There's also the not inconsiderable problem that Trump's speeches are generally lacking in basic coherence, not to mention that anyone can pluck one line from a speech to divorce it from context and give its meaning enough ambiguity to make innuendo. On this limited basis, I'd interpret what he's saying as being that black communities came through for him because even those who weren't sure about him chose to stay at home rather than vote for his opponent. Either way, he's not 'thanking' anyone and the point certainly seems less inflammatory than the 'THANKS SUCKAS!' the headline implies.
EDIT: And surely 'big league' is actually 'bigly?'
The debatable part is what is meant by 'if they had any doubt'. Who their doubts refer to could be either Trump or Clinton. On its own, one would logically infer Trump, but the 'because they felt good about me' could imply they stayed home because they felt a Trump presidency wouldn't be bad enough to force them to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt. There's also the not inconsiderable problem that Trump's speeches are generally lacking in basic coherence, not to mention that anyone can pluck one line from a speech to divorce it from context and give its meaning enough ambiguity to make innuendo. On this limited basis, I'd interpret what he's saying as being that black communities came through for him because even those who weren't sure about him chose to stay at home rather than vote for his opponent. Either way, he's not 'thanking' anyone and the point certainly seems less inflammatory than the 'THANKS SUCKAS!' the headline implies.
EDIT: And surely 'big league' is actually 'bigly?'
foxuzamaki
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haha...WHAT
benjipwns
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According to the exit polls he got 8% of the black vote, Romney got 6% and McCain got 4%.
The country voted for Hillary. The imbalanced ratio of the electoral college that dictates that some Americans matter more than others decided this
White women in particular disappointed the fuck outta me (Not surprised though)
exmachina64
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Big Green Anus
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The "Let's blame the blacks" is so damn old and annoying. They had the highest ratio in voting for Clinton out of any group, but some idiots from the media are still trying to blame them. For some reason, no one talks about the exit poll,which had 9% of those who identified as Democrats had voted for Trump compared to the 7% of Republicans voting for Hilary.
Comfort Jones
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Half the country didn't vote and she won the popular vote lol.
This is pretty clearly not an apathetic black voter problem.
This is pretty clearly not an apathetic black voter problem.
chillybright
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Is that because she is pro-choice?
America voted this guy in ... Post Obama I'm still trying to wrap my head around that . But America did and there are many facets he exploited . Many which need addressing . And many idiots he empowered which need telling off . 
the world is the world as it is . Shit happens . I do hope this silly narrative of America being the saviour of mankind gets diminished . No offence but no one country is especially one which votes trump in .
the world is the world as it is . Shit happens . I do hope this silly narrative of America being the saviour of mankind gets diminished . No offence but no one country is especially one which votes trump in .AnathemicOne
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Can't believe we have a President-elect shitposting. Is this real life?
Psychoward
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I love how some liberals put the primary blame on non-voters instead of people who actually fucking voted for the lunatic. Like yeah obviously not voting is stupid as hell and we need to make sure that doesn't happen again (to the extent it did in 2016) but lol
I haven't actually seen black people blamed yet (maybe because I don't watch cable news) but if they are that's stupid as fuck because like someone else mentioned they voted for Clinton in the highest ratio of all races.
I haven't actually seen black people blamed yet (maybe because I don't watch cable news) but if they are that's stupid as fuck because like someone else mentioned they voted for Clinton in the highest ratio of all races.
Psychoward
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America voted this guy in ... Post Obama I'm still trying to wrap my head around that . But America did and there are many facets he exploited . Many which need addressing . And many idiots he empowered which need telling off .
Bruh, liberals/democrats have been against that for decades. The only people who actually think that are Republicans with no concept of global politics.
Regulus Tera
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The US voting in a racist immediately after their first black president is one of the most American things that could have happened. Remember Jim Crow laws? Or how about the rise of the War on Drugs after the Voting Rights movement proved successful?
A backlash against minorities after they manage to achieve progress is as American as baseball.
wasn't it shown that statistically black votes was down by around the same percentage in states that had voter ID laws and those that didn't?
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