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Yoboman
Member
What? The specs literally say 825gb
Since when have console ever listed the usable space on the spec sheet? Sounds like nonsense
Gamerguy84
Member
Completely fine given the benefits it gives. I'll just move and swap games until I add an internal.
Anyone with a good PC with an NVMe or SSD drive knows the difference and wouldn't go back.
Anyone with a good PC with an NVMe or SSD drive knows the difference and wouldn't go back.
sircaw
Banned
Its a fucking disaster, i hate those green dice hanging from the mirror.
p_xavier
Authorized Fister
Concernyng we say.
DaleinCalgary
Member
I think I saw 7 mins or so for 50GB game to load back on the ssd. No biggie at all.
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Bryank75
Banned
Way faster on PS5. There has been no tests yet but it should be less than a minute for even a huge game. These are the fastest connections you can get in USB form.
captainraincoat
Banned
But it does....there are at least 3 drives on the market now that would be compatible
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Hey dont look at me.
When the leaks came out I was already saying well that sounds right.
Some people were seemingly shook that the number quoted is for the size of the SSD not the usable space.
Hell even in the Series X usable space thread people complained that its false advertising to call it 1TB if its really 8xxGB of usable space.
This aint my first rodeo so I aint shocked.
FranXico
Member
It's small and it can be deleted.
01011001
Banned
those people are weird or didn't see the Road to PS5 video where Cerny even talks about their choice of SSD size I think? I think he made up some stuff about why this size helps with... something... which I thought was some major BS while watching but I am no SSD expert... so
danielJackson
Banned
Good that I ordered 3 PS5s so I can just hook em all up and have 3x664gb
MrS
Banned
Just because it isn't published info, doesn't mean it isn't happening. They'll have a deal in place with Samsung and other companies for the SSD expansions. Sony Approved Expandable SSDs etc.
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DaleinCalgary
Member
well maybe on an external SSD. I'm not spending that type of money now as I'll grab a 2TD internal expansion card when they get more reasonable couple years down the line.
a multicultural team of v
Member
The entire Astrobot Rescue game on the PS4 was like 7 gigs, so I don't think much. People keep asking about that demo like it's somehow taking up 50 gigs or something.
It's a real reason, it has to do with how they designed the system and the multiples (kind of like matching RAM in a PC). I'm guessing the next "multiple" of storage is a significantly higher amount, so they could have never hit a good price point with it.those people are weird or didn't see the Road to PS5 video where Cerny even talks about their choice of SSD size I think? I think he made up some stuff about why this size helps with... something... which I thought was some major BS while watching but I am no SSD expert... so
Someone can actually explain what the specific things are that are causing it (I think it's the amount of channels), but conceptually that's the reason.
MadchesterManc
Member
Calm down dear, it's a jest post.
MrS
Banned
You're not using your head here. It's literally no different to a Sony Approved 3rd party DualShock 4. Sony promote loads of 3rd party controllers and accessories all the time on their channels. This will be no different. They'll get a % of the ones they promote and help to sell.
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Insane Metal
Member
That's really shitty tbh
01011001
Banned
ok, interesting.
vpance
Member
Actually they are 10Gbps. So 1.25 GB/s
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Probably more than a Call of Duty installation.
MrS
Banned
I take your point but I assure you we will see an SSD come out advertised specifically at PS5 owners which Sony will help push, and they won't be pushing it for free. Please work on your reading comprehension.
I've never argued that it's proprietary hardware though have I. I've said Sony will help push a product and get a cut and that the SSD size is designed in part around this business model.
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FranXico
Member
DISC CHADS INSTALL THEIR GAMES ANYWAY
Loxus
Member
664 gb useable storage
Some icons are missing.
This could be the dev kit UI, with the black controller.
He also calls it dev kit UI.
Also, I don't think Astrobot is 2.4GB. That size seems too small for a game.
I could be wrong though.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
OK. I doubt it'll be that big of a deal for most normie users.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony has a log of metadata on all users about the average HDD space utilization on PS4s and came to the conclusion that less than 1 TB is a decent price/performance compromise.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony has a log of metadata on all users about the average HDD space utilization on PS4s and came to the conclusion that less than 1 TB is a decent price/performance compromise.
YOU PC BRO?!
Member
Although the smaller than expected available storage is regrettable, Sony is in a good position to make the best of it as it were. This is due to the PS5 being equipped with 10Gbps USB ports. If you have an external SSD available then it’s a non issue as an occasional game transfer from external to internal isn’t a huge deal at those speeds.
Also, the bundled astrobots game may be able to be deleted which may free up a little more space.
Also, the bundled astrobots game may be able to be deleted which may free up a little more space.
Yoboman
Member
Maybe they will fast track that list, but they said after launch originally. I dont think you can hold then to account for not being clear when they were quite clear on when they would be communicating this
a multicultural team of v
Member
checked, Cerny in the Road to PS5 talks about with 12 channels, 825 gigs is the most natural size. 12 channels * 64 = 768, which is 825 gigs in whatever the hell weird math hard drives use.
Since they are using 64, the next multiple would either be double (128), or they use three 32 gig chips instead of one 64, but even then that would be 1.5 times the cost at minimum, and I have no idea if three chips would work well together or it needs to be an even number.
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FrankWza
Member
Yoboman
Member
Astro is rumoured only 2.4gb so you're not getting much back
Rumor - Astro's Playroom PS5 File Size Leaked, Takes Up Less Than 1/150 Of The PS5's Hard Drive - PlayStation Universe
It appears that the Astro's Playroom PS5 file size has leaked thanks to a leak revealing what the UI of the PS5 supposedly looks like.
www.psu.com
Tomeru
Member
Disturbing.
Hawk269
Member
Not sure...but what I found interesting when looking at the DF video in regards to Xbox Series X storage is that the Xbox One X came with at 1tb HDD and the usable memory is lower than that of the Series X. So somehow, MS was able to put a 1tb SSD but give users more memory than what they did with the 1tb HDD on the Xbox One X.
Going back to Sony, I wish they would provide a video or give people a early PS5 so we can get some tests on how standard SSD's connected to USB work with the PS5. I know that PS5 Native games need to run from the internal or expandable SSD, but I want to know is how non-native (PS4) games run on both the internal and on a standard external SSD. Sony has been very quiet about things like this.
Bryank75
Banned
Also.... games are getting bigger.
If you want extra features, ray tracing, higher fidelity, high resolution and texture quality etc etc, get ready for memory to be taken up by less games and for downloads to be far less efficient than disc to load a game.
Discs / physical software will prove their worth again IMO.
If you want extra features, ray tracing, higher fidelity, high resolution and texture quality etc etc, get ready for memory to be taken up by less games and for downloads to be far less efficient than disc to load a game.
Discs / physical software will prove their worth again IMO.
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cryptoadam
Banned
couldn they have put in a cheap 250 GB normal drive for all the OS stuff?
ZehDon
Gold Member
The cope is strong.
Anyway, 800-ish GB on the Series X is still mostly tolerable, with games hovering around 100gb. 8 games or, so. It's still messier than I'd have liked, though, once you start factoring in one or two larger games. COD:MW eating up something like 200gb of your drive, leaves you just 6 games. That's not a lot. 600-ish GB on the PS5 is getting very close to crossing into "actually not good" territory. 6 games, or so. However, one big game really hurts. COD:MW eating up 200gb leaves you just four games. That's not going to be enough for some folk - especially if you're interested in trying out a bunch of new games at launch.
The saving grace here is that we were told that a huge amount of space is actually due to asset duplication to deal with platter spinning on older HDDs. With SSDs as standard, this type of duplication shouldn't be necessary, if I've understood this correctly. Hopefully this means 100gb games aren't the standard this generation.