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Two areas in Witcher 3 are 3.5x larger than entire Skyrim
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Because they need modders to fix and improve their games.
I'm typing from my bed while also having slight dyslexia (thats why my spelling can be so bad).
You're right, the last quarter of the game can be easy to dispatch with enemies but the first 70% of the game was a chore, not hard, just a chore having to hit enemies so many times.
Maybe i just wasn't as good as some of you or i had a bad weapon or something.
Its been a while to be honest.
Edit. Whats with the douche tone of your post anyway?
br0ken_shad0w
Member
I'm patiently waiting for SureAI to finish their Skyrim mod because if Nehrim is anything to go by, it will blow Skyrim out of the water with regards to exploration.
I'd say a lot has to do with art direction as well. Xenoblade's actual world was big and empty but the art direction was through the roof.
At the very least CDPR is making the game, not Bethesda, so the Skyrim fears seem unfounded.
I'd say a lot has to do with art direction as well. Xenoblade's actual world was big and empty but the art direction was through the roof.
At the very least CDPR is making the game, not Bethesda, so the Skyrim fears seem unfounded.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Big maps are fine as long as the game justifies it with interesting content and a sense of dynamic interaction. I'm long past the point of being impressed by asset tourism for the sake of tourism so the exploration part of the game has to feel lively and worth my time. Unless it's a purposely isolated and desolate adventure like Shadow Of The Colossus, or that amazing space exploration game I'm designing in my head right now, the world needs to feel alive. Not necessarily realistic, just alive.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Scale doesn't matter. The content within those areas do.
That was part of why I wasn't enthusiastic about Skrim at all. Elder Scrolls games excel at having wide open, empty spaces, but if there's not much to do in them, what's the point.
Hopefully the Witcher crew anticipated that problem and worked around it.
Ser Pounce
Member
CD Projekt has done absolutely nothing to make me doubt W3 will be incredible. They've had such a solid track record from the start. It's by far my most anticipated game. I really hope they keep the streak going with this game.
Crash55118
Member
Not saying that it is at all what they are planning with cities of this size, but theoretically couldn't they do the Infamous 2 in world player created quests system using something akin to Redkit?
If they were really on parity with Skyrim (on the user creation level), a focus on modding where you literally have thousands upon thousands of places to place and arrange content could be real cool.
The scale actually makes me more excited for the game, and I wasn't sure that was possible.
If they were really on parity with Skyrim (on the user creation level), a focus on modding where you literally have thousands upon thousands of places to place and arrange content could be real cool.
The scale actually makes me more excited for the game, and I wasn't sure that was possible.
I actually totally agree with you on this.
The game had tons of spongy enemies that required you to repeatedly mash with the sword over and over.
I usually upgraded the swordsman path and had the strongest weapons I could found + used oil to make things just a bit less spammy.
I never one shot anything in TW2 .
MrCookiepants
Member
Sounds like a lot of copy/paste filler! More walking, yay.
I really don't get this sentiment.
Playing skyrim felt like I was always 30 seconds away from either a city, town, outpost, location of interest, cave, ruin or fort. Which I think is where you get the theme park sentiment from. Going from one major town to the next seemed like a minute or two at most. Yet the player was supposed to believe this particular town, only a few minutes away is a completely different cultural society.
I'd much rather skyrim have dropped half their caves, forts, outposts and ruins and instead expanded the actual map and populated it with more diverse creatures and monsters and built up the cities into real cities(not a dozen houses and a few shops) and towns into real towns while making the actual map more interesting and unique.
But that is the best part. The journey, man.
Just like watch dogs.
DC1
Member
I'm guessing you never played The Witcher 2.
If you have then queue: yourlackoffaithisdisturbing.gif
DC1
Member
Every two seconds? !?
What do you think this is, a Sponge Bob episode?
grosvenor_92
Member
Side quests galore hopefully
BouncyFrag
Member
I plan to hop or even skip whilst traversing to build up Geralts acrobatic stats.
Sentenza
Member
I guess for someone with the attention span of a hummingbird that may sound like something good to advocate for.
I share your opinion about this entirely.
EDIT: also, having "barely" 10 big dungeons worth exploring would have been so much better than having few hundreds of them, each one trying to top the previous in dullness.
DaciaJC
Gold Member
Agreed entirely.
Ken Masters
Banned
This game comes out next year? I thought this game was coming out this summer
Why the hell do devs announce games years in advance
Why the hell do devs announce games years in advance
Candescence
Member
Yeah, Skyrim's dungeons were dull as all hell. There was mostly only two settings - generic Nord tomb, or generic Dwemmer ruin. The only time they really switched things up was with the huge underground area, but that was basically an extension of the Dwemmer stuff.
The problem with Skyrim and most RPGs with open worlds is that they feel more like counties with small villages than entire countries with actual cities.
dragonlife
Member
I can hear my GPU screaming in agony already.
Sentenza
Member
Same here and I just bought mine.
But you know what? I don't even care.
Just give me a game that will live up to all the promises and I will go the extra mile to have the adequate hardware to run it at its best.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Takes me 40 hours to beat the main and guild quests. That's it for the game for me since the rest of the place is filled with boring garbage and dungeons with terrible rewards.
Well this is what the cities in TW3 look like
As for fast travel it is in TW3 but only between major locations like cities. You won't be able to warp to anywhere on the map like in Skyrim.
Sentenza
Member
Did they ever confirmed this, at any point?
Last time i heard about this, they were going for "You can always instantly fast travel in any "point of interest" you already reached... Which is pretty much the worst kind of fast travel as far as I'm concerned.
On the other hand a network of few key points, being those major city hubs, magic portals, teleport runes or similar stuff, would be probably awesome.
SniperHunter
Banned
there's hoping this game will be well optimized since it is getting a console port. there were parts in witcher 2 where the game ran at 5-10 frames per second on a state of the art 5850 (at that time of release)
Ether_Snake
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A lot of the world is procedurally generated, such as trees being present where there is sunlight, etc. You don't want to have to go and hand-place everything in a big world, you just have to code things right for the environment to be populated by assets in a logical way.
I'm confident it will be awesome. Hope the boat is still in.
Only thing that might be difficult is fit all the data on disc, especially if they have some baked lighting or things like that.
I'm confident it will be awesome. Hope the boat is still in.
Only thing that might be difficult is fit all the data on disc, especially if they have some baked lighting or things like that.
That would be some realism right there.
Yup. Big for the sake of it is not a good thing.
ReplacementPelican
Member
Agreed, scale is very important to me in games, the small cities took me out of Skyrim several times. I still loved it though, don't get it twisted.
Sentenza
Member
"Big for the sake of it" is also a generic, meaningless statement, by itself.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Well this is what the cities in TW3 look like
As for fast travel it is in TW3 but only between major locations like cities. You won't be able to warp to anywhere on the map like in Skyrim.
Oh no, is their goddamn sharpening filter back?
jacksepticeye
Member
I'm actually worried about it now. Skyrim was too bloody big, it felt empty.
If TW3 can make its world feel alive and isn't just big for the sake of being big to impress people, then it will be one hell of an accomplishment. But when I hear devs using size as a selling point it sets off alarm bells.
If TW3 can make its world feel alive and isn't just big for the sake of being big to impress people, then it will be one hell of an accomplishment. But when I hear devs using size as a selling point it sets off alarm bells.
indigo-cyclops
Member
It was something you could disable, if I recall.
I'm thinking more "so how much of that space is taken up and how fast will travel be?" Something like Dark Souls II you could spend forever on but it's probably a fraction of the size of Skyrim, and likewise I'm pretty sure GTAV's larger than Skyrim but no way could you spend as much time on that game, partially because you kind of are driving around in cars and stuff.
jacksepticeye
Member
You had to turn off AA to disable it. For some reason both were tied together.That's what I remember anyway, I had to inject SMAA after
Hell no. You won't have a clue what's going on
Unless the devs synopsise it in a quick cutscene but still. GO PLAY THE FIRST TWO. You'll get so much more out of it
Sentenza
Member
Obviously not, but I'm sure they will do their best to convince you of it, putting some recap somewhere.