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Ubisoft expects The Division to be one of the largest new IP launches in history
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That's how I feel about it.
Always-honest
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I doubt it will look as good on PC either (let alone console).
But it looks pretty close all in all.
GustyGardens
Banned
It's a great game, and I think the upcoming open beta will convince a lot of people. I certainly think that it has a lot of potential, but they have to keep up with support for the community. They've gone into some detail about their DLC and even spoke about community-wide events post-launch, which is great!
Thank You.
Watchdogs was under more severe scrutiny and went on to do quite well in sales. You have the vocal minority that tire of these practices, the rest are willing to sweep it under the rug or don't care.
I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of shock and outrage over reveal vs. final graphics on this forum.
Target renders/footage not being met isn't some shady marketing trick. Game development is set the bar high, and see how close you can get. Not the other way around. That goes for graphics to gameplay features. Everyone can see exactly how the game looks/runs on every platform months before having to put a dollar down.
Don't show anything about a game till release and the game is "dead" or in "development hell".
Show early concepts and targets for gameplay/graphics and it's "omg downgrade".
Locked Out
Banned
Yeah it's inexcusable that some things need to change from the start of a project until it releases to make it function and run properly. The only person that deserves an ass kicking is you, and you're getting one in this thread. Rightfully.
Dude, there are so many games which looked at launch completely same as gameplay vids..
This is not the first title, which Ubisoft downgraded.
Broadbandito
Member
I hope it is huge. The minimal content they had in the beta had me hooked for over 24 hours and we barely even got to experience most of the systems coming in the final version. Every trailer gets me more hyped. I can't wait to fine tune my character with gear.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Such as? Nearly every AAA game are being downgraded, Fallout 4, The Witcher 3 etc...
Okay, I'm going to need a citation for Siege.
Bolivar687
Banned
I'm going to try the open beta but I'm not reassured by the time-to-kill I've seen in some of the videos. I don't know if this game has the gunplay to reach an audience like a Destiny can. But I hope it does.
It also benefits from not having another big multiplayer title near it. It's true test is if it will survive the next Black Ops map pack.
It also benefits from not having another big multiplayer title near it. It's true test is if it will survive the next Black Ops map pack.
And there are just as many who show their hands early, and dont quite meet their initial targets.
Did you forget The Witcher 3? This isn't exclusive to Ubisoft and both games still look incredible.
Nyteshade517
Member
the time to kill stuff got blown way out of proportion...from playing the Closed Beta and seeing footage from recent videos it's a non-issue
GTAV
Plenty of game studios manage to show their game with demos that are honest representations of their games. Ubisoft has failed to do this 3 times in a row. Why shouldn't this hurt their credibility? They didn't show us concepts or target renders. They said "This is a demo of our game, The Division." In fact, they did it twice with the same visual quality for over a year.
Outside of having guns this game basically has nothing in common with Call of Duty.
Always-honest
Banned
And this has been mentioned countless times so for most people here the moaning, complaining and dead horse beating is getting a bit embarrassing.
WE ALL KNOW.
WE ALL KNOW
Go watch the reveal and the actual game.
Temper your expectations then?
They have not done anything to manipulate or trick you.
CDProjekt did the same thing with The Witcher 3.
Mass_Pincup
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The framerate on the reveal trailer was better then the actual framerate in game.
Hell, you can limit that to just the Tom Clancy label and the only thing it has in common with Ghost Recon is that it's a third-person shooter.
Where did all the trees go then m8?
I think you need to rest watch the reveal trailer and compare the final PS3 game to it.
InsaneTiger
Member
I think of it like this:
You show off what you *think* you can do.
As you develop the game you find out what can do and show off again.
Then stupid fans yell "DOWNGRADE!" at you.
You show off what you *think* you can do.
As you develop the game you find out what can do and show off again.
Then stupid fans yell "DOWNGRADE!" at you.
FPS has nothing to do with a downgrade..
Showing your games in a way that are impossible to achieve multiple times is trying to trick the audience. And I feel the same way about the Witcher 3. Plenty of games manage to show an honest representation of their game before release. There's no reason why Ubisoft cannot do so as well.
Uh, yes it does..
The graphics are downgraded to maintain FPS.
There's also no reason to think Ubisoft (or any other developer) is trying to be intentionally dishonest until they show you footage with graphics A, throw an NDA on review copies until day of or after release, and give you the game with graphics B.
They have been extremely upfront about how the game looks/plays going so far as to actually giving 2 open ("closed") betas to see how it runs for yourself.
wat?
Mass_Pincup
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Of course it does lol, they showed something not possible with the actual game, that's a downgrade.
Did you watch the reveal trailer at E3 2013?
None of these demos are "Hey we think this is what we can pull off for this game, but we're not quite sure". These demos are always "Yup, this is the game we're making and we're gonna tell you all about the fancy tech we're pulling off. " Then the downgrades come and they are discovered as quietly as possible.
InsaneTiger
Member
Framerate is tied to the graphics.
sorry you're right, my fault.
It's OK to be disappointed but MY GOD WE KNOW there are more important things to complaim about than a game that looked better when it was revealed several years ago.
Can you demonstrate where Ubisoft or any studio involved in this game has tried to keep the difference in fidelity hidden or quiet?
I bet you cant.
Wasn't just FPS though was it.
And just so you know, R* are my favourite Devs and I've been a lifelong fan of GTA so it's not easy for me to post this evidence...
Be specific, please.
FullMetaltech
Member
I agree. The key to this game being successful will be for them to make sure the content keeps coming and adding DLC that will keep it fresh.
AllIsOneIsNone
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All this downgrade talk is stupid. If you played the Beta you know it looks fine and that the Snowdrop engine is really awesome. Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKtjDDsO6Y4
Marketing is marketing. People should know to wait until actual gameplay is shown to start judging a game.
I expect this game to do very well.
Marketing is marketing. People should know to wait until actual gameplay is shown to start judging a game.
I expect this game to do very well.
Yep, I agree. I hope they keep the content coming at a steady pace that can keep us playing!
They need to tell us if there's raids and dungeons though...
UnemployedVillain
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Every one of their new IP is positioned this way. They pump insane insane resources and money into these things. Hopefully it doesn't end up being yearly like Assassin's Creed, but I don't think that model could even work for this type of game (unless they find a way...)