In the near future
Ubisoft: Rainbow Six failed to meet its sales target.
Please understand.
against battlefront and blops 3? i dont see it, even if the shooter audience is thirsty you're going against blops 3 and star wars
Better lower that by around 60% or you're in for a shock Ubisoft...
In what context did they say this? Was it more of an optimistic hope or a real expectation?
Really hope for the former.
Be surprised if they sold half that to be honest
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It's a disappointment
Sprry for quoting so nuch, but I do not understand where this is coming from. You guys do know that they have paid professionals that probably went to gopd schools and leatned business marketing, statistics, and more, and these are the people that make these projected sales, right? What makes you guys think paid professionals are just talking numbers randomly?
In what context did they say this? Was it more of an optimistic hope or a real expectation?
Really hope for the former.[/QUOTE
Sprry for quoting so nuch, but I do not understand where this is coming from. You guys do know that they have paid professionals that probably went to gopd schools and leatned business marketing, statistics, and more, and these are the people that make these projected sales, right? What makes you guys think paid professionals are just talking numbers randomly?
well i wasnt saying its going to "bomb", otherwise it wouldnt have got the green light in the first place, but 7 million units seems like a stretch considering the established franchises with new releases this year. companies fall short of their projections all the time, there is no science behind it.
that and i ignored the lifetime bit lol
That is a lot of bundled copies.
Sorry for quoting so much, but I do not understand where this is coming from. You guys do know that they have paid professionals that probably went to good schools and learned business marketing, statistics, and more, and these are the people that make these projected sales, right? What makes you guys think paid professionals are just talking numbers randomly?
Micheal Pachter is also a "PAID" professional, think about that for a sec.
Michael Pachter is also a "PAID" professional, think about that for a sec.
Sorry for quoting so much, but I do not understand where this is coming from. You guys do know that they have paid professionals that probably went to good schools and learned business marketing, statistics, and more, and these are the people that make these projected sales, right? What makes you guys think paid professionals are just talking numbers randomly?
I can see Battlefront selling 10 million units at least by the end of the year. It's the game to go along with a new Star Wars Movie so it should actually surpass that number quite easily.The title of this thread should be called, "EA expects to sell mroe than 7 million units of Star Wars Battlefront lifetime."
No matter how much some people like to think he is stupid, he is not, otherwise he would not get paid. Do you think people like to throw money away? The competition for intangible goods, such as statistical analysis, is very strong. If he still gets paid, that means he is doing something right, no matter how much flack he gets from forum members.
Also, the stuff he "predicts" that is public is not really the work he gets paid for.
Sales projection fail all the time. Being a paid professional doesn't mean you are suddently full proof and indicating that is a very naive way to look at things.
Being paid also doesn't mean people can't disagree with you like the case here.
And yeah, hitting 7 million will be very hard when going against Star Wars, BLOPS3 and Halo and with the PC market dominated by CS.
against battlefront and blops 3? i dont see it, even if the shooter audience is thirsty you're going against blops 3 and star wars
Then you have Halo and The Division as well.
I don't think it's random. But publishers regularly overestimate their sales projections. They have an incentive to do so, to keep shareholders from selling and devaluing their stock.You guys do know that they have paid professionals that probably went to good schools and learned business marketing, statistics, and more, and these are the people that make these projected sales, right? What makes you guys think paid professionals are just talking numbers randomly?
He often says stupid things, but I really don't have much of an opinion on Pachter. However, in the real world, there are legions of people who get paid to speculate and write up estimates and draft plans, most of which fail or go nowhere. That's what happens when business majors saturate their fields. (Which is what happens when your economy's manufacturing base is demolished by outsourcing.)No matter how much some people like to think he is stupid, he is not, otherwise he would not get paid.
To prevent the shareholders from panicking and selling their stock.If sales projections fail all the time as you say, then why does every business with a product or service to sell have at least one person or department employed and working on sales projections?
wow what are they smoking at ubisoft?
What makes you think that? There will be more than just this mode we've seen.This game will sell slightly better than Evolve. Both suffer from the same problem of being "not enough game."
I'm not saying he's "Stupid" I'm saying PAID professionals are only human and human make mistakes.
You act like professionals never fuck up. I still think 7mil is too high a number.
I hope the game does well. Everything I've seen and heard from the devs makes me confident that they understand what Rainbow Six is all about. But I think 7 million is optimistic at best. If (when?) it fails to meet that goal, I'm afraid that Ubisoft will permanently can the franchise.
I don't think it's random. But publishers regularly overestimate their sales projections. They have an incentive to do so, to keep shareholders from selling and devaluing their stock.
He often says stupid things, but I really don't have much of an opinion on Pachter. However, in the real world, there are legions of people who get paid to speculate and write up estimates and draft plans, most of which fail or go nowhere. That's what happens when business majors saturate their fields. (Which is what happens when your economy's manufacturing base is demolished by outsourcing.)
To prevent the shareholders from panicking and selling their stock.