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UFC 145 |OT| A Special Night with Jon Jones

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Anderson has been undefeated and defending his belt for how many years now?

Yeah. Keep bringing up a fight that he won via comeback as the reason why he's not the GOAT, and continue calling Jon Jones the greatest ever when he's only been champ for a year.

I'll be over here in the "rational" section of MMA-GAF.



No. 1 P4P ranking at any given moment =/= GOAT status



Who called Jones the GOAT? Nobody, that's who. What's being discussed is whether he should get the nod as the best P4P fighter right now.

It's okay if Jones is considered the best fighter right now, as it wouldn't take anything away from Anderson's legacy in the slightest.

That being said, Anderson better be careful not to fall into the Fedor trap of being satisfied and getting lazy/unmotivated.

Anyone can get got (WWE reference? LMAO!) on any given day.
 
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Jon Jones definitely has a bright future, but saying Anderson's time has passed is ridiculous. He's undefeated in his UFC career (6 years, 14 wins, 9 title defenses) and has taken out a who's who list of top contenders and made defending the belt look easy. He's also brought out some of the most spectacular knockouts and general bad-assery in MMA history.

Don't disrespect the man.
 
Yea Silva can lose every fight he has from here on out and he'd still be a legend.

Personally I'm hoping he knocks Sonnen out and then retires as the GOAT.
 
I think anyone who tries to discredit Anderson Silva would be ignored/laughed at immediately :P. I can't see Jonny boy losing this upcoming fight unless Rashad comes out looking better than ever (even then it's a stretch).

RASHAD EVANS KO'S JJ VIA ROUNDHOUSE KICK.

I'm going to go back to dreaming.
 
People are really in here doubting Anderson's legacy against a guy that took steroids before he fought him? WTF!!!!!!

Chael Sonnen cheated and Anderson was already hurt before the fight and he still beat him, when will y'all realize this?
 

Ha I thought Silva's legs were the chicks and vice versa.

Jon Jones definitely has a bright future, but saying Anderson's time has passed is ridiculous. He's undefeated in his UFC career (6 years, 14 wins, 9 title defenses) and has taken out a who's who list of top contenders and made defending the belt look easy. He's also brought out some of the most spectacular knockouts and general bad-assery in MMA history.

Don't disrespect the man.

Sup zew

Yea Silva can lose every fight he has from here on out and he'd still be a legend.

I agree with you but then again Fedor was in the exact same spot two years ago. An unbeatable legend with supposedly one fight until retirement and now he seems to be the biggest joke in the GAF MMA thread (although I think a lot of it is tongue in cheek). Still I just don't ever see that happening to Silva.
 
I agree with you but then again Fedor was in the exact same spot two years ago. An unbeatable legend with supposedly one fight until retirement and now he seems to be the biggest joke in the GAF MMA thread (although I think a lot of it is tongue in cheek). Still I just don't ever see that happening to Silva.

Except Andy fights the best guys. I don't want to see his falloff. :(
 
Thread derail over crappy P4P talk.

Fuck P4P talk. Out of the seven divisions, theres 4 or 5 guys who've basically dominated it. They're all pretty fucking good and looking unbeatable right now.
 
I think Jose Aldo is the best UFC champ at the moment. He would easily win gold at 155# but he's got to carry a shitty 145# division until he vacates.
 
lets get PPV buy predictions.

i'm going to say 750k.

Hmm for reference

UFC 128 - Shogun vs Jones - 490k
UFC 135 - Jones vs Rampage - 520k
UFC 140 - Jones vs Machida - 485k


I'm guessing with the added hype (primetime, backstory) and lack of a UFC PPV in quite some time, 600k
 
Can't wait to see fraud back in action against former top ten HW Big Rothwell. Brendan is guaranteeing a FOTN performance, hopefully he pulls it off uninjured and replaces Overeem so he can show all the doubters who really has the best boxing in the division.

Now that I'm done shittalking the hybrid, I think Hominick/Yagin or maybe Rory/Mills will be FOTN if the main event is lacklustre.

yacobod said:
I think Jose Aldo is the best UFC champ at the moment. He would easily win gold at 155# but he's got to carry a shitty 145# division until he vacates.

Agreed.
 
Have faith in Suga. I would mark out if Suga wins rd 2 via submission.

On a side note why dont Machida or Shogun have fights lined up? I have the feeling that no LHWs want to fight Machida because his style poses serious problems to everyone not named Shogun.

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I think Jose Aldo is the best UFC champ at the moment. He would easily win gold at 155# but he's got to carry a shitty 145# division until he vacates.
You don't have to state "I think" when you follow it up with a fact. It's more modest than your character demands.
 
I'm a bit of Jones stan for his work in the ring alone, but I definitely wouldn't mind seeing Evans beat his ass with all things outside of the ring being considered...I'm just not sure it will happen. If anybody can beat Jones right now, it's Rashad, I don't think anybody else really has a shot.

People say this for everyone, against every fighter.

I got into arguments for month with people saying this same thing about Machida being the only person that could beat him, and he got absolutely embarrassed. People like to downplay reach advantage, but it's a really big factor. Obviously you need skill to go with it, but he has that.

Only person that might stand a chance, and I've felt this way since Jones destroyed Rua for the title, is Hendo. Hendo has never been knocked out and I don't recall him ever actually being rocked once in a fight. He could stand there and take all that punishment and wait for the perfect opportunity to capitalize, which is someone other fighters don't have the luxury of.

Other than that, Jones is going to be king for a long time. Only person that can stop him is himself.
 
Only person that might stand a chance, and I've felt this way since Jones destroyed Rua for the title, is Hendo. Hendo has never been knocked out and I don't recall him ever actually being rocked once in a fight. He could stand there and take all that punishment and wait for the perfect opportunity to capitalize, which is someone other fighters don't have the luxury of.

Hendo is on a stopwatch timer though. He has 2-3 good rounds before he runs out of gas. Jones would just go Full Jackson and just exploit this.
 
you guys know what bullshit i am sick of? Jon Jones hate.


HURP DERP hes a douche OUTSIDE THE DERP that why i dont like him



please, point out to me a video or something of him being lame, or a douche. Cus last time i checked bitches he was telling stories of stopping a car theft in new jersey just like a friend would to his pals. Hes a straight up cool motherfucker and you guys need to stop. Really.
 
you guys know what bullshit i am sick of? Jon Jones hate.


HURP DERP hes a douche OUTSIDE THE DERP that why i dont like him



please, point out to me a video or something of him being lame, or a douche. Cus last time i checked bitches he was telling stories of stopping a car theft in new jersey just like a friend would to his pals. Hes a straight up cool motherfucker and you guys need to stop. Really.

Greg Jackson Lady's and Gentleman!
 
People like to downplay reach advantage, but it's a really big factor. Obviously you need skill to go with it, but he has that.

Pretty much this. If Jones didn't have such long limbs he still would be a great fighter but nowhere near as dominant.

He have the perfect physic.
 
People say this for everyone, against every fighter.

I got into arguments for month with people saying this same thing about Machida being the only person that could beat him, and he got absolutely embarrassed. People like to downplay reach advantage, but it's a really big factor. Obviously you need skill to go with it, but he has that.

Only person that might stand a chance, and I've felt this way since Jones destroyed Rua for the title, is Hendo. Hendo has never been knocked out and I don't recall him ever actually being rocked once in a fight. He could stand there and take all that punishment and wait for the perfect opportunity to capitalize, which is someone other fighters don't have the luxury of.

Other than that, Jones is going to be king for a long time. Only person that can stop him is himself.

Yeah but personally, I think it's true because Rashad has a mental advantage that none of Jones' previous opponents had. He knows exactly what he has to do to beat Jones. He's done it before in practice. I'm sure Jones knows what he has to do against Rashad too, but that puts them on an even field, at least from the mental standpoint

Physically, Jon is a freak but Rashad is quick at least. He might not be the favorite but he has a shot I think
 
you guys know what bullshit i am sick of? Jon Jones hate.


HURP DERP hes a douche OUTSIDE THE DERP that why i dont like him



please, point out to me a video or something of him being lame, or a douche. Cus last time i checked bitches he was telling stories of stopping a car theft in new jersey just like a friend would to his pals. Hes a straight up cool motherfucker and you guys need to stop. Really.

last i checked buddy this is america, and we have something called freedom of speech. people can like whoever the fuck they want.
 
you guys know what bullshit i am sick of? Jon Jones hate.


HURP DERP hes a douche OUTSIDE THE DERP that why i dont like him



please, point out to me a video or something of him being lame, or a douche. Cus last time i checked bitches he was telling stories of stopping a car theft in new jersey just like a friend would to his pals. Hes a straight up cool motherfucker and you guys need to stop. Really.

Give a dog a bone
 
you guys know what bullshit i am sick of? Jon Jones hate.


HURP DERP hes a douche OUTSIDE THE DERP that why i dont like him



please, point out to me a video or something of him being lame, or a douche. Cus last time i checked bitches he was telling stories of stopping a car theft in new jersey just like a friend would to his pals. Hes a straight up cool motherfucker and you guys need to stop. Really.

Welcome, friend.
 
you guys know what bullshit i am sick of? Jon Jones hate.


HURP DERP hes a douche OUTSIDE THE DERP that why i dont like him



please, point out to me a video or something of him being lame, or a douche. Cus last time i checked bitches he was telling stories of stopping a car theft in new jersey just like a friend would to his pals. Hes a straight up cool motherfucker and you guys need to stop. Really.
Cool dudes don't cry when they get interrupted.
 
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“What really did it for me, for myself, was studying the Civil War and understanding what those guys were doing, the loyalty that they had for sometimes the United States or sometimes their state and understanding that sometimes I have to put my own personal feelings aside.

Because I would have just liked to stay out of the whole damn thing, but sometimes you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do, even if you don’t like to do it.”
 
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really these guys are representing sports entertainment and they couldn't get suited up to be on TNT. smh, rashad and jbj look like bums next to these guys.
 
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