But it would be a very popular thread <grin>.
While it definitely shows that I have too much time on my hands, I only did that because false accusations were thrown my way. I was content to leave things where they were prior to that. You're very much right that it's pointless since Jeff is beyond reach.
Support for HDCP 2.2 is required for 1080P media Miracast and Vidipath/DLNA commercial media. Vidipath is in home media sharing over the home network using HTML5 for the UI, DLNA and Microsoft's Playready and WMDRM (720P or lower res) or Playready ND (1080P or higher res) for DTCP-IP.http://www.synopsys.com/IP/security-ip/content-protection/Pages/default.aspx said:
It's because he keeps stating he's crazy theories like facts and never admit wrong.
lol
Chû Totoro;213690555 said:
People are trying to have a discussion with him which is like talking to a wall. I don't know why they're even bothering, you're just wasting your time by doing that. He's been doing this since the early PS3 Slim days iirc, it's pretty entertaining but taking anything he says at face value is foolish.
Why do I find some of my posts echo developer posts if I am so wrong?
How many developer posts echo that:
Typical, you ignore posts that give a basic understanding of the DRM and features that are coming. (2) below is the point of my post.
PS4 and XB1 launch consoles will be upgraded to support HDCP 2.2 and that requires TMP 2.0 which was published middle of 2015. A HDMI 2 transmitter has HDCP 2.2 in the TEE and the HDMI chip just passes HDCP negotiation to the TEE. Point of this is that it is easy for the game consoles to support HDMI 2 with firmware update if the HDMI chip supported the timings which were known in advance. This was my point and it's still valid. I was perhaps condescending after explaining 10 times HDCP 2.2 is in the TEE not the HDMI chip and the above. Note: the PS4 has a custom HDMI chip and we still don't know why...it is still possible it supports HDMI 2 timing and passes HDCP negotiation to the TEE.
Talk about moving the goalposts; You or others argued the HEVC "hardware" codec was not available when the console was launched so it can't support HEVC. I started by stating that the HEVC decoder codec would use Xtensa blocks and would be a software codec with hardware accelerator (Xtensa DSP) as that was what AMD used for the UVD. This is still valid.
...except they aren't, at least not to the launch consoles.
Not according to AMD, at least for the Xbox One. Everything I've read says that HDCP 2.2 requires at least HDMI 2.0, and since an upgrade from HDMI 1.4a to 2.0 is not possible, that'd mean no dice for the launch Xbox One or the PS3 (since you think a ten year old console has so much life ahead of it).
No, that's not what was said. You failed to understand and continue to fail to understand that not all things HEVC are created equal. Being able to decode certain types of HEVC video does not mean all manner of HEVC video can be decoded (at least not while maintaining the desired level of playback).
We know it's not valid because people who actually work with this technology and know what they're talking about have unambiguously said so.
HD != UHD
The slides are astonishingly vague, make no reference to the launch Xbox One, and this is functionality that still does not actually exist. Streaming from the Xbox One is accomplished via AVC. The slides prove nothing.
Adam, the 2013 XB1 supports HEVC profile 10 for HD media. That means it is decoding 8 bit media with a 10 bit codec which is less efficient. It is doing this because Netflix will be encoding HD media with Profile 10 because ALL media will use the same codec even if HD 8 bit. The same codec, the same codec, the same codec.......Yes, UHD media will have 4 times the bitrate and need more hardware processing power but the codec is the same!
You could be correct about the slides mentioning HEVC encode for game streaming...or not, time will tell. There is so much confusion caused by the new "Apple" refresh model they are following that could have impacted early 2013 statements as you stated.
No "will". HEVC-encoded UHD is a thing right now now. As far as digital delivery to consumers goes, it's been a thing for more than two years now. As far as optical media goes, we're almost six months into UHD BD. If a decoder can't handle that amount of data, then saying "but it's the same codec!" is academic masturbation.
I use codec as in Universal Video Codec (UVD) which the developer tweet says the XB1 is using. Universal means it's software based with hardware accelerators which can be a vanilla Xtensa DSP block or one with dedicated special function blocks for HEVC which can also be used by other codecs thus the name Universal Video codec.
Xtensa DSP is used for codecs (UVD) and vision processing as they have many common elements. OpenVX uses the Xtensa DSP as low power accelerators to augment openCV as they are up to 100X as efficient as a CPU or GPU used for OpenCV.http://mandetech.com/2012/01/10/sony-masaaki-tsuruta-interview/ said:
I use the research and reading to target investments so what I pass on to the threads is making me money. I have doubled my 3 year old investment this year and I expect another 50% at a minimum by 2017. Depending on China another 100% by 2019.Chû Totoro;213818517 said:That's because I now know who he is and seriously I don't understand why he's doing such crazy things. But yeah I'm sorry if he felt insulted (even if for me my post is not a direct insult and I've never wished anything bad to him...)
I'm just questioning myself. Why people are acting crazy like this when they don't seem insane at all on a first impression?
And even if by miracle (yeah we need a miracle here) there would be little bit of truth in his UHD Blu-Ray claims I would eat crow but still be sad for the guy...
If he's happy and ok, perfect then, he's just another Internet troll
I mean, there's not one thing called "UVD". AMD versions it, and we already know that the launch PS4 and Xbox One don't have one that can handle UHD BD-grade HEVC encodes. UVD also hasn't meant "Universal Video Decoder" in years.
As far as Ultra HD Blu-ray support goes for the launch PS4 and Xbox One, we've had multiple statements from folks at Microsoft and one from Sony that it's not possible.
