Guileless said:
i agree with sardonic, the government made this up to control us.
I didn't say that the current situation is a complete fabrication (or "made up" like the Canary Wharf story Blunket "leaked" to the press) if that is what you are implying. Nor did I ever deny that some attacks have obviously happened.
What I suggested was that the government(s) have intentionally AND unintentionally exaggerated the threat and used this climate of fear and propaganda to excuse fundamental changes to the relationship between the citizenry and the police/government that confer ever greater powers to the police/government and ever fewer rights to the citizenry. The propaganda offensive we have been exposed to over the last week in the UK should be clear enough for anyone with any common sense - worse than Hitler? unimagineable mass murder? threat to our way of life?...are they talking about Stalin? or maybe Satan on earth?
If some people think that this is not the case then I'd ask them to look at little closer. Individual acts of terrorism - whether real, fabricated, or exaggerated (often all 3 at once) - only serve the government's agenda. They are shameless in instantly using these situations for political purposes - and that does not mean simply getting re-elected. It's funny to see people saying this is "tin hat" talk when this is exactly the kind of stuff that has been publically discussed by some politicians, Lords, journalists, historians, anthropologists, and so on, for several years.
ToxicAdam said:
Except that the 1C swing following 9/11 was scientifically measured. Hawkings' theories on blackholes look to be incorrect, being an astrophysicist means shit when it comes to the validity of your opinions in other areas, and he has gained mainstream fame as an "Einstein-like genius" (which he is not) largely due to condescending admiration from the press and public.
I never said that "the human species the most cataclysmic event to ever happen to Earth"...what I said, a repetition of many comments from biologists in published scientific articles (which I linked to), is that the actions of human beings over the last century are causing one of the largest mass extinction events known.
teruterubozu said:
Wow, all kinds of things are being banned from flights.
Mostly liquids, but laptops and iPods too! Holy shit!
Have they said if these measures are temporarily for the day/week or for the long-term?
). I was just pointing out how today's date is eerily similar to the days in which al-Qaeda actually DID carry out an attack.