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UK: Gran Turismo Sport retail launch bigger than GT1 and GT6, less than GT5
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A better game based on reviewer not based on customer. Minecraft is a shitty game but it sold gangbusters so does it change something?
First I said subjectivity aside, second user reviews seem to be not that good for GTS. Doesn't mean nobody is enjoying the game, though.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
PS4 launch really hurt GT6, it was a bad time to release it really and would have sold much better if it was ported to PS4 as well.
To be fair though, to still sell around 6 million by the end is pretty good, considering a lot of people jumped to PS4.
GTS is the better game where it matters: On the track. You would know that if you read the reviews instead of looking at scores. The scores are lower because of what is not there rather than what is there.
It launched on PS3 after the PS4 launch, which was bafflingly stupid by Sony. It still sold over 5 million in the end, but most sales happened from heavily reduced prices.
Based on the fake review on amazon? Where are the negative feed of the one who bought the game? "I've played 5 minutes and it's trash" yeah i can trust those people lol
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Wat
Sure, got it.
TBiddy
Member
Yes, all the negative user reviews are clearly fake. Every single one.
Tfault
Member
Couldn't agree more, that's the key to GTS.
sechsterangriff
Member
It's the first GranTurismo game on current gen so it's not surprising it had a good launch. The question is if it will have legs. Gran Turismo 5 basically kept selling from launch until PD forced the servers to shutdown for GT6.
Anecdotally, I see alot of the more casual audience complaining on Facebook on ads and PlayStation related pages I follow.
Anecdotally, I see alot of the more casual audience complaining on Facebook on ads and PlayStation related pages I follow.
Big Green Anus
Member
I'm surprised the game did better than expected, especially action games like Shadow of Mordor. Racing games must be a Europe thing in terms of popularity because racing games are not popular in America other than Mario Kart.
Triggerhappytel
Member
3/10 for effort, I suppose.
I knew it was going to sell well. Not selling as much as GT5 is the real news here IMO. Let's see how it goes from here.
Anecdotically, my local CEX (used games trading shop) is flooded with GTS. This is a small city, and usually you have to wait for several weeks for new releases to start appearing.
Anecdotically, my local CEX (used games trading shop) is flooded with GTS. This is a small city, and usually you have to wait for several weeks for new releases to start appearing.
DarkJak101
Member
Glad GTS is doing well! Ive honestly been torn on getting it since AC:Origins comes out a week after it, and the focus on online is something that worries me long term. Ill probably get it on sale sometime though, looks to be amazing in VR
PuppetMaster
Member
That sounds about right.
If sales are indicative of quality then Knack is better than Super Mario 3D World....
Loving this new narrative that GT Sport is better where it matters most...as if its high sales weren't almost guaranteed? There's a lot of good will attached to the GT name, despite its obvious massive failings in its latest iteration, its still sold well as was expected.
It isn't as proficient as its competitors and it lags behind totally as a package according to reviews so this whole "oh it excels where it matters most hence why it sold so much" narrative is bullshit.
Its GT. Its bound to sell, regardless of how much better Forza is than it.
Loving this new narrative that GT Sport is better where it matters most...as if its high sales weren't almost guaranteed? There's a lot of good will attached to the GT name, despite its obvious massive failings in its latest iteration, its still sold well as was expected.
It isn't as proficient as its competitors and it lags behind totally as a package according to reviews so this whole "oh it excels where it matters most hence why it sold so much" narrative is bullshit.
Its GT. Its bound to sell, regardless of how much better Forza is than it.
Shambalakan
Member
Thirst was real with GT5! First "proper" hd GT that released about 6 years after GT4.
Sad Affleck
Member
That sounds like a solid result.
CouchMaster
Member
So if the numbers fall massively like in case GT6 its because the series has failed to evolve, fallen behind competition, there's new champion in the market etc, but if it does good numbers then its because of the brand name and not the actual quality of the game.
lol ok then..
lol ok then..
No? GT6 did "poorly" because it launched when the PS4 was already out. At least that's what I've read dozens of times here.
CouchMaster
Member
The actual reason is not the point, its the spin you see certain people put on it. If it sells relatively bad then 'oh what did you expect? its a mediocre game in a declining series'. If it does good then 'oh what did you expect? its GT of course its gonna sell well'
No doubt Sony was expecting the game to sell a LOT.
Vroadstar
Gold Member
So what's it to you that it sold more than Forza? You go thru all the spin but really is it just...
Aceofspades
Banned
GT6 sold 6m units. better than all so called competitors.
TBiddy
Member
FTFY. No need to be a jerk.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, obviously, it's friggin' Gran Turismo, with a massive marketing campaign and the leading platform.
Vroadstar
Gold Member
So what's it to you that it sold more than Forza? You go thru all the spin but really is it just...
Lol the point I'm making is, the sales aren't necessarily indicative of quality. It wasn't really hard to glean from what I said, particularly in reference to Knack.
I can't help but think that each one had the opportuniy to destroy the other this time and both missed.
GTS with more content and single player mode would've been a 10/10 package, 95+ meta for sure.
Forza 7 without the lootcrate crap would've had it much easier to court GT players, even if the sp is not 1:1 like Gran Turismo mode.
Quality is one thing that GT Sport is definitely not lacking.
Vroadstar
Gold Member
The thread is about GTS selling better than 6 and 1 and not about GTS vs Forza until you chimed in with this
Keep on spinning though if makes you feel better...
Your two quotes actually enforce my point though? If sales are indicative of quality then Forza would sell more no? The one that has been received FAR more favourably critically?
Still struggling to understand? Its not really rocket science.
Oh and
No. Check the OT....
Vroadstar
Gold Member
Didn't know sales of GTS vs Forza is affecting you too much, I'll leave this here and let you be...
I wouldn't bother replying to him after seeing his posts in the review thread.
IISANDERII
Member
The PS4 has Project Cars, Project Cars 2 and Assetto Corsica.
Vroadstar
Gold Member
Yes thanks for heads up, well I guess it is affecting him what with the throne/crown talk and all
LordOcidax
Member
Less than Prologue... Yikes...
All that throne/crown talk shouldn't dissuade you from actually answering the question. Merely quoting one of the more 'hardcore ' GT fans stating that 'GT doesn't lack quality' hardly makes a strong counter for an argument that the more critically well received title might 'deserve' more sales no?
Never mind- carry on
IISANDERII
Member
Glad to see a large number of people understand that most game reviews sites are totally valueless. And I've been saying this years before GTS.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Forza 7 is a more "casual" game than GT Sport.All that throne/crown talk shouldn't dissuade you from actually answering the question. Merely quoting one of the more 'hardcore ' GT fans stating that 'GT doesn't lack quality' hardly makes a strong counter for an argument that the more critically well received title might 'deserve' more sales no?
Never mind- carry on
It appeals to more people.
Playing an pretty much online only racing game is basically a non-stop time investment.
get2sammyb
Member
This did significantly better than I thought it would; I'd guessed around GT6 considering market conditions and the fact that digital sales were probably a reasonable chunk. I think Sony will be happy with that start, as the game will have legs.
chromatic9
Member
Not bad. I predicted about 65k so 73k or whatever is reasonable.
I think GT Sport will struggle to sell as much as GT6 and GT5P in the same time frame though and will be heavily bundled. I bet after 2-3 years of heavy bundles and a second version of GT Sport with more content and more offline friendly, PD will update their sales page.
The price and how many copies on ebay might give us clue to how it's really doing on its own soon.
I think GT Sport will struggle to sell as much as GT6 and GT5P in the same time frame though and will be heavily bundled. I bet after 2-3 years of heavy bundles and a second version of GT Sport with more content and more offline friendly, PD will update their sales page.
The price and how many copies on ebay might give us clue to how it's really doing on its own soon.