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[AHA-Lambda]

Working time directive?
Green energy?

Christ sake

 

[Saya]

he posted this on FB

 

[Funky Papa]

BENDY BANANAS

THEY BROUGHT UP BENDY BANANAS

goddamn why do i keep getting triggered over this bullshit

edit: oh fuck off Farage

 

[Camp Freddie]

The UK wants to undertake the exit deal and a trade deal at the same time.

The EU has consistently said this is not possible either legally (the EU cannot negotiate a trade deal with someone who is not a 3rd party) or practically (there's not enough time and having the trade deal be part of the exit deal means that there would have to be a full ratification process which basically would take 8 months)

It's a bit more nuanced. We at least need to discuss the basics of trade and any transitional measures in the exit deal, since the exit deal has to say what the fuck happens to our borders and customs in 2 years' time.
i.e. we need to decide if we will go to WTO rules on exit or if there will be a transitional period where we remain in the single market/customs union until an actual trade deal with the EU is finalised.

However, it's quite obvious that an actual permanent trade deal will take way longer than 2 years to negotiate and can't be done in parallel with exiting.

I would love for us to be sensible and ask to remain in the single market for a transitional period while a trade agreement is set up, but a single market transitional arrangement would require freedom of movement, and May will never accept that.

The bad faith in our demands so far also means that the EU will not want to accept a good transitional arrangement. They will probably want to put us at a disadvantage in future trade negotiations by kicking us out on our arse and letting us beg to have our economy back.

 

[Mr. Sam]

Ich will meine Geld zuruck!

We all do, mate. We all do.

The Telegraph have listed "Five EU directives we'll be glad to see the back of"



Even ignoring how crap the removal of Working Time Directive would be, the others total lack of care for the environment are astonishing. Especially for reasons as meaningless as have proved unpopular because they give off a cold, unnatural light compared to their predecessors

If this stuff becomes the norm (and the state of the press in the UK makes me guess it will be), we are absolutely fucked

Just think - these are the five best they could come up with. Lightbulbs! Not being exploited by your employer! What a fucking mess.

 

[PdotMichael]

Working time directive?
Green energy?

Christ sake

Creating a better world is bad.

 

[Heartfyre]

Cake prices will go through the roof for the EU in the next months.

I never understood this faux-argument. Most cakes, breads, pastries, and chocolate are better on the continent.

Anyway, all eyes have left Westminster and are squarely in Brussels. There they will stay -- the UK's leading role in this debacle is at an end.

 

[jelly]

Y'all need to chill your tits for a while and stop with the ribbing. Try to enjoy the fracas as much as you can. Or vent away, but do so in a sensible way.



How apropos: German manufacturers say ‘no concessions’ to UK in EU exit talks

They don't say no deal so that's something. Just don't give UK a better one or the same I gather. Not sure how that will keep manufactures happy in the UK but the UK government has yet to divulge what they promised Nissan and surely can't promise all industry a favour...

 

[oti]

he posted this on FB

The real life Joker.

 

[kess]

The Telegraph have listed "Five EU directives we'll be glad to see the back of"



Even ignoring how crap the removal of Working Time Directive would be, the others total lack of care for the environment are astonishing. Especially for reasons as meaningless as have proved unpopular because they give off a cold, unnatural light compared to their predecessors

If this stuff becomes the norm (and the state of the press in the UK makes me guess it will be), we are absolutely fucked

This list was compiled by a moron. LEDs can be configured to any light temperature, and green energy is Britain's best interest unless the author looks at the cover of Floyd's Animals and feels a compulsion to burn some coal.

 

[Funky Papa]

They don't say no deal so that's something. Just don't give UK a better one or the same I gather. Not sure how that will keep manufactures happy in the UK but the UK government has yet to divulge what they promised Nissan and surely can't promise all industry a favour...

Automotive News had a piece on this this morning: Auto industry demands tariff-free access to EU as UK triggers Brexit

Automakers said the UK must secure a Brexit deal that preserves tariff-free access between Britain and the European Union after Prime Minister Theresa May formally launched Brexit divorce proceedings on Wednesday.

Ford Motor said unfettered access to EU markets remained crucial for its operations in the UK.

"Any deal must include securing tariff-free trade with the wider Customs Union and not just the EU27, whilst retaining access to the best talent and resources," Ford of Europe President Jim Farley said.

"It also is critical that a transitional period is put in place to ensure that customers are not penalized and to maintain free trade," Farley said.

...
BMW said earlier this month that it is reviewing its factories in the UK ahead of Brexit and that it has the flexibility to move production elsewhere if necessary.

Automakers basically want access to the common market and some have already called for a larger amount of local providers (read: gov subsidising that particular portion of the industry to make more appealing sourcing parts from the UK). It's a whole different thing if this can be done in a way that satisfies all parts.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Creating a better world is bad.

Let me finish that sentence for you.


Creating a better world where you actually get time off work to see your family is bad.

 

[Ac30]

The Telegraph have listed "Five EU directives we'll be glad to see the back of"



Even ignoring how crap the removal of Working Time Directive would be, the others total lack of care for the environment are astonishing. Especially for reasons as meaningless as have proved unpopular because they give off a cold, unnatural light compared to their predecessors

If this stuff becomes the norm (and the state of the press in the UK makes me guess it will be), we are absolutely fucked

That light bit isn't even true - My LEDs are brighter and more natural looking than my old incandescents! The fuck are they buying, white fluorescent?

 

[Croyles]

The UK could have no flights to and from Europe after Brexit, Ryanair warns

TLDR: For a period of time because they plan all their flights a year in advance. Still really bad but just thought i'd provide some context to the "slightly" misleading headline.

 

[TheMan]

So did they pull the trigger yet?

 

[CyclopsRock]

Doesn't literally everyone opt out of the WTD anyway?

 

[krang]

The UK could have no flights to and from Europe after Brexit, Ryanair warns

And nothing of value was lost.

 

[Croyles]

I never understood this faux-argument. Most cakes, breads, pastries, and chocolate are better on the continent.

Anyway, all eyes have left Westminster and are squarely in Brussels. There they will stay -- the UK's leading role in this debacle is at an end.

I think he/she was referring to this piece of gold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1MVZYtX5Zg

 

[TimmmV]

Doesn't literally everyone opt out of the WTD anyway?

Hell no, and the single job i did do that in was the worst I've ever done. I'd refuse to do a job that expected it now

This list was compiled by a moron. LEDs can be configured to any light temperature, and green energy is Britain's best interest unless the author looks at the cover of Floyd's Animals and feels a compulsion to burn some coal.

That light bit isn't even true - My LEDs are brighter and more natural looking than my old incandescents! The fuck are they buying, white fluorescent?

Yeah, either a liar or maliciously stupid person wrote that.

I really don't understand how stupid you would have to be to have a problem with saving money and using less energy just because your lightbulb is a slightly different colour

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Doesn't literally everyone opt out of the WTD anyway?

Uh no??

 

[PJV3]

Doesn't literally everyone opt out of the WTD anyway?

I do remember junior doctors being worked to destruction with insane shifts and hours, I'm not sure how true it is they want it gone.

 

[Uzzy]

She linked a trade deal with security cooperation? That's crazy. Feels like blackmail.

 

[jelly]

And nothing of value was lost.

Hey, I've used them many times. They are bare bones add on bastards but they get you there. Not always useful considering the airport locations but I've been happy going to Sweden, Austria etc.

 

[Makareu]

The Telegraph have listed "Five EU directives we'll be glad to see the back of"



Even ignoring how crap the removal of Working Time Directive would be, the others total lack of care for the environment are astonishing. Especially for reasons as meaningless as have proved unpopular because they give off a cold, unnatural light compared to their predecessors

If this stuff becomes the norm (and the state of the press in the UK makes me guess it will be), we are absolutely fucked

If these are the things that UK is happy to look for ... then yeah, everyone will be better off after the divorce.

 

[jelly]

She linked a trade deal with security cooperation? That's crazy. Feels like blackmail.

Yeah, I noticed that in the letter. Would be a shame if you got terrorised without our intelligence, we will help against Russia etc. To be honest, it's one of their better cards to play but scummy.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

She linked a trade deal with security cooperation? That's crazy. Feels like blackmail.

Pretty much sounds like it :/

 

[Ac30]

Pretty much sounds like it :/

Europe dumped their nukes for American and British guarantees. Now we have jack shit.

 

[Carl2291]

She linked a trade deal with security cooperation? That's crazy. Feels like blackmail.

I think it's been pretty obvious that both sides will be playing really shitty cards in what's gonna end up as a poor deal for Britain.

 

[Fafalada]

LEDs can be configured to any light temperature

Not to mention that as of recent years, LED bulbs also come in filament-configurations, so they can emulate the look of of incandescent in addition to light-temp output.

 

[Funky Papa]

Europe dumped their nukes for American and British guarantees. Now we have jack shit.

It's not nukes (which France has in enough quantity), but counterterrorism and cybersecurity cooperation, on top of telling Putin to stick to fucking over his peasants instead of ours.

 

[kess]

Everybody knows that carbon arc lamps are more suitably English and untainted by foreign contrivance, anyway.

 

[Xando]

AFP: #BREAKING Merkel rejects May's call for parallel talks on EU-UK ties

Off to a good start.

5 hours in and Mays negotiation plan is already as good as dead.

Interesting 2 years ahead

 

[WhateverItTakes]

BENDY BANANAS

THEY BROUGHT UP BENDY BANANAS

goddamn why do i keep getting triggered over this bullshit

edit: oh fuck off Farage

Because this is being orchestrated by utter arseholes. I hate they're making me angry but fuck if there's anything to get angry about, this shitheap is it.

 

[Ac30]

It's not nukes (which France has in enough quantity), but counterterrorism and cybersecurity cooperation, on top of telling Putin to stick to fucking over his peasants instead of ours.

I realize the French have a few, but without America's missiles and the UK's Trident nukes we're probably not as threatening as we once were. Relying on one nation vs. 3 isnt very reassuring

No counterterrorism co-operation is rich though since they need it as much as we do.

 

[RedSparrows]

he posted this on FB

I love how fearles truth tellers now hide behind mockery of people having... reactions.

 

[oti]

5 hours in and Mays negotiation plan is already as good as dead.

Interesting 2 years ahead

That was never going to happen anyway, regardless of Merkel's opinion on it.

 

[Xando]

I realize the French have a few, but without America's missiles and the UK's Trident nukes we're probably not as threatening as we once were. Relying on one nation vs. 3 isnt very reassuring

No counterterrorism co-operation is rich though since they need it as much as we do.

They still have around 300 warheads. Enough to deter Putin from any funny stuff.

 

[wisdom0wl]

Good luck U.K. GAF

 

[tolkir]

he posted this on FB

Next step, United States and Calexit.

Getting money to break countries, he's totally a comic villain.

 

[Plum]

You'll all be taking back your words once you're finally able to eat a bendy banana under an incandescent light-bulb on your 5-minute lunch break. Such a Utopian future is something we should all strive for.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

 

[Funky Papa]

I realize the French have a few, but without America's missiles and the UK's Trident nukes we're probably not as threatening as we once were. Relying on one nation vs. 3 isnt very reassuring

No counterterrorism co-operation is rich though since they need it as much as we do.

Yeah. I left a hearty chuckle when I heard about it. It's not like the UK doesn't have some radicalisation issues of their own that could require some help from the other side of the channel.

It looks like the UK still has to understand that all those free passes from the past came to happen because we were partners in the same Union. And soon enough we won't be anymore. Negotiating in bad faith will accomplish nothing, and just because defence and the rights of EU citizens are the only solid cards you have doesn't mean you should even think about using them. I mean, as long as you really want to pursue that close and special relationship.

 

[PJV3]

You'll all be taking back your words once you're finally able to eat a bendy banana under an incandescent light-bulb on your 5-minute lunch break. Such a Utopian future is something we should all strive for.

As long as my passport is blue and I don't have to see Polish sausage in the newsagents then all is good.

 

[grumpy]

Next step, United States and Calexit.

Getting money to break countries, he's totally a comic villain.

He's nothing but a snake oil salesman and a person with at least a handful of firing neurons should be able to see that within 10 seconds of him opening his ugly-ass, bucktoothed mouth.

 

[ittoryu]

And nothing of value was lost.

Only hundreds of routes pretty much everywhere in Europe...

Or was this sarcasm because is cool to be edgy with Ryanair?

 

[Crabernacle]

I really don't understand how stupid you would have to be to have a problem with saving money and using less energy just because your lightbulb is a slightly different colour

Old people eat this up. Before she passed, my 93 year old Grandmother adamant that CFL's and the like were just awful. No matter how much I tried to explain, she was dead set on the idea that they were unable to produce enough light. The color was a secondary distant second. She made me drive her to a fspecialty shop, just so she could buy overpriced incandescent bulbs.

 

[CyclopsRock]

Uh no??

Hell no, and the single job i did do that in was the worst I've ever done. I'd refuse to do a job that expected it now





Yeah, either a liar or maliciously stupid person wrote that.

I really don't understand how stupid you would have to be to have a problem with saving money and using less energy just because your lightbulb is a slightly different colour

No? I've had five different jobs in the last 12 years and they all required that.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

No? I've had five different jobs in the last 12 years and they all required that.

My current job has required it but it's been my only one, and I took great umbrage with it

 

[Funky Papa]

I didn't know Politico.eu was hosting a liveblog.

Edit: Oh, ffs

Home Secretary Amber Rudd has rejected claims that Britain was threatening to withdraw security cooperation from the EU if it does get a trade deal, but some of her comments gave the impression that she was talking up the threat, the Guardian reported.

She said:

”If you look at something like Europol, we are the largest contributor to Europol. So if we left Europol, then we would take our information – this is in the legislation – with us. The fact is, the European partners want us to keep our information there because we keep other European countries safe as well."

 

[DavidDesu]

And nothing of value was lost.

My £9.99 flights to Berlin are rather valuable to me thanks! Fuck knows how that would work a few years from now. Are we going to need VISAs or something? Its definitely not going to be as problem free and easy as it is now. Fuck this place.