Angry_Megalodon
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In some countries it's a must, in others it isnt. I'm not installing AC to turn it on only in August. What's the point.
People who live in the north or far from the sea see it differently.
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In some countries it's a must, in others it isnt. I'm not installing AC to turn it on only in August. What's the point.
People who live in the north or far from the sea see it differently.
Bojji
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All big and most small shops (Żabka) have it in Poland, same for offices, schools etc.
I also see more and more people installing AC, even in the block I live. I think I will do it in the future as well, right now two fans with 45cm blade diameter are doing the job.
What the my european mind doesn't understand is this take.
I'm an Energy Auditor, and heat pump is the most used system now.
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LordCBH
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Do yall not have the option for cheap windows units for individual rooms? Our AC died a couple years ago and I just grabbed a couple of small window units for cheap until I could get it fixed.
Bojji
Member
Typial window units won't work with European windows:
But there is stuff like this:
Air Conditioner Window Kit,Anti-Mosquito Waterproof Wind Resistant Universal AC Window Seal Kit with Double Zip and Powerful Adhesive Tap for Portable Air Conditioner and Tumble Dryer,300cm/118 Inch : Amazon.co.uk: Home & Kitchen
Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop Air Conditioner Window Kit,Anti-Mosquito Waterproof Wind Resistant Universal AC Window Seal Kit with Double Zip and Powerful Adhesive Tap for Portable Air Conditioner and Tumble Dryer,300cm/118 Inch.
www.amazon.co.uk
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LordCBH
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Typial window units won't work with European windows:
But there is stuff like this:
Air Conditioner Window Kit,Anti-Mosquito Waterproof Wind Resistant Universal AC Window Seal Kit with Double Zip and Powerful Adhesive Tap for Portable Air Conditioner and Tumble Dryer,300cm/118 Inch : Amazon.co.uk: Home & Kitchen
Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop Air Conditioner Window Kit,Anti-Mosquito Waterproof Wind Resistant Universal AC Window Seal Kit with Double Zip and Powerful Adhesive Tap for Portable Air Conditioner and Tumble Dryer,300cm/118 Inch.www.amazon.co.uk
Oh wow. Had no idea yall had completely different window designs.
kpopSuperstar
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I am so glad I live in Scandinavia and miss 90% of the heatwaves, I can barely handle 25 celsius. When it gets over 25 I stop functioning like a normal human.
Audiophile
Member
Heat doesn't bother me much anymore, but the humidity is what I hate, just dripping all the time. Clothes just drenched around me butt, back and thighs.
Nocty
Currently Steaming
the first thing that hit me when I moved to the UK with my wife was how the fuck you all survived this long without home AC units.
Monday and Tuesday in the Nocty house ya boy was sweating his titties off, got barely any sleep, nutsack sticking to legs like cement.
It fucking sucks man. But thankfuly we only see the sun like that maybe 10 days of the year.
Monday and Tuesday in the Nocty house ya boy was sweating his titties off, got barely any sleep, nutsack sticking to legs like cement.
It fucking sucks man. But thankfuly we only see the sun like that maybe 10 days of the year.
Nocty
Currently Steaming
47°C/116°F at 6:30 PM here in southwest France
This is getting scary, August is gonna be something.
damn, our french niggas bout to look like zoidberg
nush
Gold Member
I had an AC in China that could run hot or cold. I could see the benefit of that if you tracked the cost of natural gas or electric for heating and choose the energy source that was cheaper at the time.
jufonuk
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jufonuk
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Toulouse is getting hotter to. But it's dry and we have AC47°C/116°F at 6:30 PM here in southwest France
This is getting scary, August is gonna be something.
London is worse
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
47*
Yeah Toulouse/Lyon are very hot. Been there a few times but 47°C in southern France is significantly harder to cope with and much more dangerous overall than 32°C in London. I have no doubt 32 in London feels awful due to the humidity, but 47° is reaching extreme temperature. Especially with how unprepared we are for this kind of heatwave and that soon into the summer.
Nocty
Currently Steaming
No shit, I took the underground to kings cross / st pancras yesterday and the mf was like riding in a big metal armpit.
Zathalus
Member
European heat isn't something to scoff at. Historical temperatures were far lower and the infrastructure and housing just wasn't designed around long periods of extreme heat.
It can also be incredibly humid on top of that. I scoffed at the thought of European heatwaves until I experienced a few summers here myself. Absolutely fucking terrible. And for context, I'm from Namibia/South Africa. 38c in the Netherlands is not my idea of a good time.
Thank god I installed AC in my home.
And yes, it is getting hotter:
en.wikipedia.org
It can also be incredibly humid on top of that. I scoffed at the thought of European heatwaves until I experienced a few summers here myself. Absolutely fucking terrible. And for context, I'm from Namibia/South Africa. 38c in the Netherlands is not my idea of a good time.
Thank god I installed AC in my home.
And yes, it is getting hotter:
Elfstedentocht - Wikipedia
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nush
Gold Member
Collegue of mine would tell the story of how the sweat from a fat Indian guy was literally dripping on him during a tube ride.
London tube in hot weather is no joke.
Bitmap Frogs
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It's because the germans unhealthy obsession with airing the house, those windows open the standard way and in the airing way.
Bojji
Member
What's wrong with that? I have windows open most of the time (not in the winter of course).
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
It is because of all the crime.
Bojji
Member
Those windows first appreared in late XX century, way before migration.
Jinzo Prime
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Ok, that is actually terrible. I would be a puddle on the ground.47°C/116°F at 6:30 PM here in southwest France
This is getting scary, August is gonna be something.
Tams
Member
And you get massive whiffs of it as the warm air blasts through the tunnels.
LordCBH
Member
Just get rid of all the nasty crime bois
Nocty
Currently Steaming
yep you cant imagine the experience.
Not to mention the seats all have a thick layer of brown gunge from constant use without cleaning.
Tams
Member
yep you cant imagine the experience.
Not to mention the seats all have a thick layer of brown gunge from constant use without cleaning.
That's from certain 'communities'.
Grildon Tundy
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More Europeans have died from heatwaves than Americans have from gun violence in recent years. Blows my mind folks wouldn't spring for an AC unit even if you only run it maybe a few weeks a year. Feel like I'm missing part of the puzzle.
The most I spent on energy in the US was last summer, when there was a heatwave and I hit $300 for a 1500sqft home for the first time. It's usually around $150 per month.
Are energy costs double, triple that in the UK?
Is it a cultural thing, where folks would rather complain than do something about it?
The most I spent on energy in the US was last summer, when there was a heatwave and I hit $300 for a 1500sqft home for the first time. It's usually around $150 per month.
Are energy costs double, triple that in the UK?
Is it a cultural thing, where folks would rather complain than do something about it?
Bojji
Member
You buy AC and use use for maybe two or three weeks in totall/year in the northern countries. It doesn't make sense for most people.
Most of the time weather is mild or cold. And yeah, energy prices are insane.
Of course southern Europe is totally different when it comes to this.
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Insane Metal
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Damn. Please, I know it's not common for the French but please have daily showers47°C/116°F at 6:30 PM here in southwest France
This is getting scary, August is gonna be something.
Tams
Member
If the 'not actually do anything' is refuse to confront Iran so that energy prices go down, then yes.
Instrad, we'll spend even more than military intervention on benefits to somewhat cap energy costs. Of course, privately owned energy companies will get their profits from those not in receipt of benefits.
You're up, Nick, 30ans.
Nocty
Currently Steaming
Heh you not lying but as a brown / black guy myself I cant really say shit lmao
I do however remember getting on the tube once after a night out in Southall (which for anyone not in the know is kinda like London's India Town for lack of a better term). There was a big group of indian student aged guys that had been on a night out and clearly had went for a curry after cause they were all throwing up in unison on the fucking tube in a similar heatwave.
I have never in my life touched indian food since, the experience tarnished and burned into my brain. Even the slightest smell of indian spiced food now makes me dry heave.
It smelled exactly how you might expect with a big group of sweaty indian brothers drunk and throwing up on a 40*C tube train
Grildon Tundy
Member
Just asked my AI buddy. He estimated energy cost for running AC is a little more than 2x in the UK. But then account for where median household incomes are 1.5x-2x higher in the US, and that's like 3-4x higher for energy cost in the UK.
Starting to see the picture more clearly.
Grildon Tundy
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Sorry, I'm not sure I follow.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
And it's not even June yet… The good news is that nighttime temperatures are fine (20-22°C), so I leave everything open as much as possible at night and close everything at 8 a.m. Even the shutters are down, otherwise the sun beating down on the windows makes the room temperature rise very quickly.
And yes I don't have A/C, it's not very common here although it's starting to become almost mandatory. I went from not intending to install it to deciding to have it by next summer. It's important to understand that we didn't have these temperatures 20 years ago, in fact 35° was considered super hot back then. Now it's a normal day.
The craziest thing is that just ten days ago, I still had the stove running a bit because it was really cold at night.
Wait, once a week is not enough?!Damn. Please, I know it's not common for the French but please have daily showers
What's next, you're going to tell me we're supposed to change our underwear every day?
LordCBH
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47°C/116°F at 6:30 PM here in southwest France
This is getting scary, August is gonna be something.
Jesus. We don't even get near that here in the hot humid sweaty balls stuck to your thigh USA Deep South.
Avid Reading Horse
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Luckily the New Europeans are already heat-adapted so the problem is more or less fixing itself.
kruis
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That's an apples vs oranges comparison since the number of Europeans dying from heatwaves are statistical deaths. This excess mortality is determined by averaging the number of people who usually die during the Summer months and then checking if that number went up during a heat wave.
But what it really means is that the bodies of very old and frail people who were already on the brink of death gave up slightly sooner than they normally would have. If there had been no heat wave these same 90-year olds would have succumbed after a cold. Not because the heat was truly unbearable or that virus was a real killer, but because their bodies couldn't take ANY hit to the system anymore.
Europe supposedly has 60,000 to 175,000 deaths per year compared to the US with just 1,300 to 2,300 deaths per year. But that's because the US and EU don't use the same methodology,
In the US a heat related death (like a heatstroke) is determined by a coroner or a medic only. It's an official cause of death. Those European numbers are based on statistics, not individual medical examinations. The reality is that the number of Americans dying from heatwaves is enormously underreported.
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nush
Gold Member
You do that without AC, impressive.
StabbyStabStabStabStab
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This reminds me a bit like those old dick swinging contests between a couple of geezers about who can handle the hottest chilli, except in this case no one's actually eating the same type of chilli.
Senua
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StabbyStabStabStabStab
Member
Exactly. All dependent on many factors.
Put these fuckers in a fridge though and they're fucked.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
We got a notice today in Florida about using water on Tuesdays and Thursdays to alleviate pressure. Water does occasionally lose pressure in the morning when people are watering their lawns.
It's just for irrigation and not household
It's just for irrigation and not household
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
No I am a pussy. Have to use AC. Vast majority of people in my country, unfortunately, have to endure this shit without AC. And it gets worse every year.
Can't argue with that. I like cold, but max only till it's around 0 degrees. Below that and it's too much for me
ReBurn
Gold Member
Exactly like where I live. Chance of snow is enough to lead to massive chaos and fear of death.88F/31C hahahahahahahah that's a mild spring day for us....
....just don't hit us with any fog or more than 0.00001" of ice/snow, lest we all die
Zathalus
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It has been discussed previously, but it's due a number of factors:
- Deaths are reported differently
- Historically little need, but now climate change is changing that more rapidly for Europe compared to other places on Earth (Gulf Stream partly to blame for this)
- Tied to the above, cultural attitudes, a feeling of it not needed, although adoption of AC is going up and accelerating.
Cost isn't really that much of a concern, even now it's a few weeks needed to run the AC every year. I have one, and I'd only bother using it when it gets really hot. You have some restrictions depending on where you live, but that is mostly historical buildings or areas, and even then you can get a portable one. Or invest in a Heat pump.
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Zacfoldor
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Window AC unit in America is only $150 dollars one time fee and we don't give a shit about the electric bill.
I live in Mississippi with the poorest people in some of the most humid weather. We have heat stroke deaths but not like you think. Even some people you would think are too poor have AC window units got em. Trailers with window units are super common.
What you are saying is probably true but maybe not to the extent you believe. We are very conditioned to get out of the heat.
People saying they would not install a window unit for 2 weeks. You accept 2 weeks of hot hell to save money? To me, never, NEVER. I would buy and wear a window unit on my back and pull around a generator in a wheelbarrow for 1 day less of heat suffering per 10 years.
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StabbyStabStabStabStab
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