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Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 - Vergil & Iron Fist Revealed

Honestly reason why I think they are not going to announce Phoenix Wright and Rocket Raccoon because they posted the new art which is not included those two characters so it led me to think that it will be only two characters announcement.

Niitsuma said massive announcement at tgs. If it is only those two characters then I will shake my head at him slowly and give him a sarcasm clap for trolled me.
 
LOL @ edgy Wesker haha. Also, DMC themed teams(Dante+Vergil at least) are going to be absolutely fucking terrible in this game if the netcode does not improve substantially. Killing Trish now will be an exercise in patience that will annoy the even the Buddha. Having to deal with Dante and then Vergil(or vice versa) is going to cause heart attacks. Shit is gonna be terrible lol. I'm gonna have to cheapen up hardcore as fuck.

PLZ make Hsien-Ko good Capcom, I need to prepare for the DMC MADNESS!

That BASED CHI is gonna save me though!
ElyrionX said:
Am I the only one who wishes Nero is in this to complete the true DMC trifecta?
All DMC fans are gonna get is a massive backlash in the form of nerfs that even Phoenix hasn't seen if they keep asking for more DMC.

Not bitter or anything, but I'm just saying it like it is. Popular opinion already goes crazy over how "OP" Dante is. Adding Vergil and buffing Trish when she is terrifyingly good at being lame is just dangerous haha.
 
I bet they'll make Iron Fist ass just to spite you, SolarPowered.
ElyrionX said:
Am I the only one who wishes Nero is in this to complete the true DMC trifecta?
I would have preferred him over Vergil. But all three? Get out.
 
Iron Fist on anchor is going to be fucking godly. Hyper with invincibility, defense power up, relatively high damage output without assists, self-OTG.....

....access to X-Factor. If he has a decent amount of health, boy is gonna be a problem.
I haven't seen anything about Iron Fist that would make him a good anchor at all outside of possibly being able to self-combo after his air throw (which we haven't seen but I am assuming this since he can self-OTG after hard knockdown).

No air moves/specials
No mobility in the air
No real high/low mix ups outside of an overhead
No cross ups or right/lefts
About average normals in terms of priority
Punch rush hyper doesn't travel fast enough to punish someone mid screen away like Bionic Arm. It's more similar to Mach Speed.
No clutch moves/counters that he can use to get out of a pressure situation
No spammable hypers or utility hypers that he can burn meter with at the end of a match

Right now he appears to be an excellent character on a Phoenix team as he does an absurd amount of meterless damage (probably highest in the game). With the right assist he should be a staple on a Phoenix team especially with his meter building stance (however that works). Stuff like high damage output without meter and assists is something that one wants on a Phoenix team. LOL @ using X factor with a character who can take half health of Hulk without using meter on a day -20 combo.
 
Dahbomb said:
? Vergil is exactly what everyone hyped him up to be.

Check out this movelist that I put up prior to his reveal. Notice that it's 90% identical to the current one minus the Nelo Angelo stuff (which even I admit were a long shot). Even right down to the ground bounce property on Lunar Phase, cross up property of Rapid Slash, Summoned Swords, Judgment Cut distances and teleport positioning. In fact, my movelist was so accurate I am just going to re-edit it to reflect the actual reveal.

Maybe it was that combo vid with his air-canceling into wide-range iaido slashes stuff, I expected something similiar to Zhou Tai in the Dynasty Warriors series, with some of Last Blade's Moriya & Hibiki added in for good measure.

Not saying any of that is reasonable based off what you guys, as DMC fans, listed as his movelist. Just knowing how the sheathed-sword stuff normally works in games, he doesn't have some of those normal qualities such characters in games usually have.

I'm sure I'll appreciate him more / differently as time goes on, though.
 
enzo_gt said:
By any chance are you the guy who asked for a 4th RE character? *loads gun*

Umm, I'm the one who complained about the 4th RE character.

I mean, of all the goddamn franchises Capcom has, RE is the one that gets four characters? WTF? Chris and Wesker and maybe even Nemesis are all well and good but Jill is just a complete waste of a slot.

And despite that, there are actually people asking for Leon to be in? I mean, what the fuck? How different can his gameplay be from Chris? Instead of a magnum, he uses a desert eagle?
 
Dahbomb said:
I haven't seen anything about Iron Fist that would make him a good anchor at all outside of possibly being able to self-combo after his air throw (which we haven't seen but I am assuming this since he can self-OTG after hard knockdown).

No air moves/specials
No mobility in the air
No real high/low mix ups outside of an overhead
No cross ups or right/lefts
About average normals in terms of priority
Punch rush hyper doesn't travel fast enough to punish someone mid screen away like Bionic Arm
No clutch moves/counters that he can use to get out of a pressure situation


Right now he appears to be an excellent character on a Phoenix team as he does an absurd amount of meterless damage (probably highest in the game). With the right assist he should be a staple on a Phoenix team especially with his meter building stance (however that works). Stuff like high damage output without meter and assists is something that one wants on a Phoenix team. LOL @ using X factor with a character who can take half health of Hulk without using meter on a day -20 combo.
Dude catches a character and assist and it's game over with a day 2 combo lol.

But, yeah, he is not going to be a good anchor unless he has some super secret move/mixup that changes everything. Gonna be terrifying with the right assist though!
El Sloth said:
I bet they'll make Iron Fist ass just to spite you, SolarPowered.
LOL he is already Gdlike compared to Lei Lei. I can't complain haha.

Believe it or not... I'm just watching DMC fan's backs on this one.
ElyrionX said:
Umm, I'm the one who complained about the 4th RE character.

I mean, of all the goddamn franchises Capcom has, RE is the one that gets four characters? WTF? Chris and Wesker and maybe even Nemesis are all well and good but Jill is just a complete waste of a slot.

And despite that, there are actually people asking for Leon to be in? I mean, what the fuck? How different can his gameplay be from Chris? Instead of a magnum, he uses a desert eagle?
They're already spoiled enough as it is.
 
IntelliHeath said:
Honestly reason why I think they are not going to announce Phoenix Wright and Rocket Raccoon because they posted the new art which is not included those two characters so it led me to think that it will be only two characters announcement.

The art was always released after 4 characters had been announced. So far, we had the initial 4, now we had the Gamescom and TGS pairs. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of TGS having a second pair in store, people now going like "Oh, cool, so that's it" and then Capcom blowing out the next pair, being like "Hah, you though that was all?".
I can fully imagine them doing that. We ARE talking about Capcom.
 
IntelliHeath said:
Honestly reason why I think they are not going to announce Phoenix Wright and Rocket Raccoon because they posted the new art which is not included those two characters so it led me to think that it will be only two characters announcement.

Niitsuma said massive announcement at tgs. If it is only those two characters then I will shake my head at him slowly and give him a sarcasm clap for trolled me.
They can put out another pressed you know, plus they may have something saved for the stage show. And the /v/ leak has proven true thus far.
 
ElyrionX said:
Really? All she has is a lame rocket launcher with a lamer knife on it.

Nero has a fucking demon arm and a flaming sword and a spirit devil trigger.

If we're talking in terms of variety, then yeah.

Lady was able to grapple hook, had multiple firearms, different Kalina Ann projectiles, and grenades. She'd be like Spencer + Deadpool. I think it'd be interesting anyway. I also just like her design. She also had a motorcycle that could somehow come into play.

Not saying Nero would be bad. I just like Lady.
 
toasty_T said:
Nero would have been Spencer with an organic arm instead of a bionic one

Like I said, he has a flaming sword and a relatively unique devil trigger. He would be a hybrid of Spencer and Zero, IMO.
 
enzo_gt said:
Akuma? Wolverine? Taskmaster? (technically)

I wouldn't say that Air GouHadou is a separate Hyper from ground. Nor would I say that the beam is different from the projectile spray. Variations of the same Hyper. Same with Taskmaster.
 
Am I the only one who would like a MvC4 running on an engine using Shinkiro's art assets for the characters?

I love the soft and clean look with those deep black lines.

very clean
~Devil Trigger~ said:
- <--------
-Swords
-Multi Slash (Air only?)
-Like a Boss Level 3

so Vergil first character with 4 Hypers?

Ryu has four as well doesn't he?
 
N***A STOLE MA SWORD!!!

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Real talk: I bet when all of y'all were watching Vergil do an aerial combo you thought the other character was gonna fall out of that shit.
 
Yeah now Ryu has 4 hypers. Morrigan and Wolverine have 4 hypers too.


Ok now I am NOT saying that UMVC3 NEEDS a 4th DMC character so don't get fucking salty over what I have to say.

Nero and Lady would both be excellent character additions to MVC3. If Trish was replaced with Lady or if Vergil replaced with Nero (blasphemous but let's just go with the flow here) then the roster wouldn't be bad at all.

Lady is far more agile than someone like Chris she is constantly somersaulting all over the place while shooting in all directions. She has a Jill like Somersault move with SMGs, plus she can rappel around the battlefield with Kalina Ann or pull someone in. Plus she has a bike she can incorporate into her movelist. Not to mention her numerous firearm weapons and one that hasn't been used yet in MVC3... the Spiral. It's an anti-tank gun that reflects bullets off of walls and something that would be pretty bad ass in the game if it was incorporated. Plus grenade/mine traps. Only problem with Lady is that you have to try REALLY hard to differentiate her from the other gun characters in the game like Jill, Deadpool, Chris and even Dante who uses weapons of Lady.

Nero would be much more interesting that Lady. He would be the first DMC character to have command throws in his Buster. He can get around the screen with Devil Bringer. He can charge his gun like Zero and ground bounce an opponent with it. He can add "charges" to his sword for more powerful moves by revving it up or by timing special moves. Plus his Devil Trigger is way more unique than both Dante and Vergil's, it's an astral demon form that floats around Nero and essentially doubles his attack rate and power like Sogenmu. It also gives him a lot of DT exclusive stuff like Maximum Showdown/Bet and the twirling Summoned Swords. He also has an evasive move called Table Hopper to make opponent's whiff attacks and can relaunch in the air.


Real talk: I bet when all of y'all were watching Vergil do an aerial combo you thought the other character was gonna fall out of that shit.
HAHAHA I can't believe it took someone this long to point that shit out. Vergil has insane range on his air combos and really good "abare". Some of that stuff even Dante would've had a hard time following it up.


N***A STOLE MA SWORD!!!
Force Edge isn't Dante's and Vergil had it first. So it's more Vergil's than Dante's. :p
 
Dahbomb said:
It's an anti-tank gun that reflects bullets off of walls and something that would be pretty bad ass in the game if it was incorporated. Plus grenade/mine traps.

I would actually imagine Rocket Raccoon using these types of insane weapons. Guns that bounce off of the wall/floor, that have a weird pattern or trajectory, homing projectiles, attacks that set up traps, maybe a shield gun. Also I don't think Hawkeye's gonna be the only user of status changing moves.

I wouldn't even be surprised if his super jump ended up being a rocket jump.
 
LOL If nero was in the game, capcom would of been assholes about it. Press L + S after every attack to do his real damage! Shit would be worse than viper haha

Lady I would want in just cause she's easy on the eyes :D
We already have chris and rocket raccoon and deadpool TO MANY GUNZ
 
Lady has an official rocket super jump too. :)


Oh now i get it

That Force Edge DP is not Vergil S launcher.

Im like how the fuck is he OTGing with S
No shit son. His launcher is with the Yamato. That's actually a Rising Hightime he is doing. It's probably a DP motion.
 
Becquerel said:
I would actually imagine Rocket Raccoon using these types of insane weapons. Guns that bounce off of the wall/floor, that have a weird pattern or trajectory, homing projectiles, attacks that set up traps, maybe a shield gun. Also I don't think Hawkeye's gonna be the only user of status changing moves.

I wouldn't even be surprised if his super jump ended up being a rocket jump.
The leak said Nova had beams with different properties. Expecting something ridiculous. Give me a temporary slow down beam, a vortex beam, and a carbonite beam. Let's Han Solo these bitches.
 
enzo_gt said:
Real talk: I bet when all of y'all were watching Vergil do an aerial combo you thought the other character was gonna fall out of that shit.

LOL. For a second, I forgot about how much range yamato had. "That shit is, Fucking Ridiculous."
 
enzo_gt said:
The leak said Nova had beams with different properties. Expecting something ridiculous. Give me a temporary slow down beam, a vortex beam, and a carbonite beam. Let's Han Solo these bitches.

I think Nova and Rocket Raccoon are going to be the most exciting Marvel characters overall (hence they're saving them). As much as I love the current roster additions, I'm certain that these 2 guys are going to have the most ridiculous shit going on, even worse than Strange or now Vergil. They're gonna be fucking badass.
 
Going by that logic I wouldnt be shocked if frank got a huge upgrade over his tvc self, seeing how they also had issues with ram and stuff with him before.
 
No doubt that DMC characters would make for great fighters. The series itself is like a big old God Hand full of all kinds of Genes.

Still, saturating the game with those characters is just gonna piss people off for sure. DMC characters also seem to be Dev hogs with all the time that the team spends on them as opposed to other characters.

I like my great fighters as much as anyone else, but it might've been nice to see a strong Cap, Haggar, Chun, Tron, Lei Lei, Storm, Morrigan etc.

Seems like Capcom's producers play favorites a little too often for some people's tastes is all.

Still, I'm hyped since I might use Trish and Vergil.
QisTopTier said:
Going by that logic I wouldnt be shocked if frank got a huge upgrade over his tvc self, seeing how they also had issues with ram and stuff with him before.
PSVita version to be superior to PS3 version confirmed.

Where is your God now, MahvelGAF?
 
SolarPowered said:
Am I the only one who would like a MvC4 running on an engine using Shinkiro's art assets for the characters?

I love the soft and clean look with those deep black lines.

very clean

I like the art, but at the same time no. Kinu Nishimura, Ikeno or Bengus art directed Mahvel 4? Do want highly.

Won't happen though since I think those three are freelance now.


enzo_gt said:
They can put out another pressed you know, plus they may have something saved for the stage show. And the /v/ leak has proven true thus far.

What was on the /v/ leak again that people are referencing it once more?
 
I thought someone said that RAM thing was just speculation.

I wouldn't mind Frank getting some new moves or supers though. But I want the Servbot Head one to stay, even though it would look weird doing it to Ammy and some others, lol. (And upon thinking about it, impossible on MODOK unless they do something else with him)
 
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