The Xtortionist
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MDavis360 said:
Yeah, there's a reason why CoD games start you off with a burst fire weapon. Maybe UC3 should do the same. Bullets are dead accurate and recoil is a non issue.
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Yeah, there's a reason why CoD games start you off with a burst fire weapon. Maybe UC3 should do the same. Bullets are dead accurate and recoil is a non issue.
Played around 4-5 hours tonight, and here's my main issues from tonight's session:
* Grenades are fucking stupid. You can throw them 900 miles, and they instantly blow up when they touch the ground. These need to be over hauled to not blow up for 3+ seconds once they are on the ground and the length to which they can be chucked across the map shortened by a lot.
* Machine Pistol into melee = broken as fuck. Had 3 games in a row with completely different people on Air Field where this was all anyone on the other team was doing. They'd run around like chickens with their head cut off, hip fire the machine pistol at you and sway back and forth so you miss the majority of your shots, then just punch you once to kill you. It looks like it's 3 bullets from that pistol + a melee = you're dead.
* Melee is broken in general. I've had several instances where I get punched once, and I move 10+ feet back and they melee air and it still connects. At the same time I think it's stupid that if I punch someone first, then they punch back, then I punch again, that it ALWAYS ends in us both dying. This is why dedicated servers are a must for a game like this, or else you get bull shit moments like this non stop. I would change it to make the hit box smaller for character models and you have to be super close for melee, as well as make it so you need 3 melees if it's face to face, and 2 melees if you get one hit behind them.
* Player matching is atrocious. I had a game where it was me at level 14, 3 level 1's, and one level 7 versus an entire time of guys over 25 into their early 30's. It wasn't even close, and while I may have gone positive, the rest of my team had no damn hope. This is not fun.
* The airplane sequence at the start has a bug where if you hang off the side of a truck at the start, for whatever reason your character just auto falls and dies.
* 3 games tonight on Airfield were nothing but an entire team camping in one spot of the map with snipers and the machine pistols. There was nothing our team could really do. We tried to get, or at least I did, the grenade and rocket launcher, but I'd get sniped before I could kill anyone with either. Flanking was a no go, and since my team was just randoms without headsets, pushing together wasn't an option. I'd like to see a playlist for people who aren't with anyone else to get on teams, so I don't get matched up against a group of 5 guys who game together versus my random casual PSN Joe squad.
* The aiming on the sniper even with max sensitivity is too stiff. It needs to be more smooth and less restrictive so I can quickly move the reticule on a moving target.
* Cover system feels cumbersome. I constantly try to just tap O to roll and I go hurling to a wall and get stuck to die. In fact I'd go as far as to say the cover in this game is just there to get in your damn way as an obstacle course rather than be something to incorporate to give you an advantage over someone standing out in the open.
* I also got that one glitch we were supposed to note here when we got it. It was at the end of a co-op on round 9, with 4:16 to go, 3 of us, and it said someone left the game right then, and we got the something string or w/e it's called in the upper right in red. Dropped us out and we got none of the hard earned experience.
I think that covers everything from tonight. Overall I liked UC2 better in just pure game play and how it handled moment to moment.
* Grenades are fucking stupid. You can throw them 900 miles, and they instantly blow up when they touch the ground. These need to be over hauled to not blow up for 3+ seconds once they are on the ground and the length to which they can be chucked across the map shortened by a lot.
* Machine Pistol into melee = broken as fuck. Had 3 games in a row with completely different people on Air Field where this was all anyone on the other team was doing. They'd run around like chickens with their head cut off, hip fire the machine pistol at you and sway back and forth so you miss the majority of your shots, then just punch you once to kill you. It looks like it's 3 bullets from that pistol + a melee = you're dead.
* Melee is broken in general. I've had several instances where I get punched once, and I move 10+ feet back and they melee air and it still connects. At the same time I think it's stupid that if I punch someone first, then they punch back, then I punch again, that it ALWAYS ends in us both dying. This is why dedicated servers are a must for a game like this, or else you get bull shit moments like this non stop. I would change it to make the hit box smaller for character models and you have to be super close for melee, as well as make it so you need 3 melees if it's face to face, and 2 melees if you get one hit behind them.
* Player matching is atrocious. I had a game where it was me at level 14, 3 level 1's, and one level 7 versus an entire time of guys over 25 into their early 30's. It wasn't even close, and while I may have gone positive, the rest of my team had no damn hope. This is not fun.
* The airplane sequence at the start has a bug where if you hang off the side of a truck at the start, for whatever reason your character just auto falls and dies.
* 3 games tonight on Airfield were nothing but an entire team camping in one spot of the map with snipers and the machine pistols. There was nothing our team could really do. We tried to get, or at least I did, the grenade and rocket launcher, but I'd get sniped before I could kill anyone with either. Flanking was a no go, and since my team was just randoms without headsets, pushing together wasn't an option. I'd like to see a playlist for people who aren't with anyone else to get on teams, so I don't get matched up against a group of 5 guys who game together versus my random casual PSN Joe squad.
* The aiming on the sniper even with max sensitivity is too stiff. It needs to be more smooth and less restrictive so I can quickly move the reticule on a moving target.
* Cover system feels cumbersome. I constantly try to just tap O to roll and I go hurling to a wall and get stuck to die. In fact I'd go as far as to say the cover in this game is just there to get in your damn way as an obstacle course rather than be something to incorporate to give you an advantage over someone standing out in the open.
* I also got that one glitch we were supposed to note here when we got it. It was at the end of a co-op on round 9, with 4:16 to go, 3 of us, and it said someone left the game right then, and we got the something string or w/e it's called in the upper right in red. Dropped us out and we got none of the hard earned experience.
I think that covers everything from tonight. Overall I liked UC2 better in just pure game play and how it handled moment to moment.
GhostWriter24
Member
I hope you're submitting your feedback to Naughty Dog and not just to GAF. This is a beta, after all.zlatko said:Played around 4-5 hours tonight, and here's my main issues from tonight's session:
* Grenades are fucking stupid. You can throw them 900 miles, and they instantly blow up when they touch the ground. These need to be over hauled to not blow up for 3+ seconds once they are on the ground and the length to which they can be chucked across the map shortened by a lot.
* Machine Pistol into melee = broken as fuck. Had 3 games in a row with completely different people on Air Field where this was all anyone on the other team was doing. They'd run around like chickens with their head cut off, hip fire the machine pistol at you and sway back and forth so you miss the majority of your shots, then just punch you once to kill you. It looks like it's 3 bullets from that pistol + a melee = you're dead.
* Melee is broken in general. I've had several instances where I get punched once, and I move 10+ feet back and they melee air and it still connects. At the same time I think it's stupid that if I punch someone first, then they punch back, then I punch again, that it ALWAYS ends in us both dying. This is why dedicated servers are a must for a game like this, or else you get bull shit moments like this non stop. I would change it to make the hit box smaller for character models and you have to be super close for melee, as well as make it so you need 3 melees if it's face to face, and 2 melees if you get one hit behind them.
* Player matching is atrocious. I had a game where it was me at level 14, 3 level 1's, and one level 7 versus an entire time of guys over 25 into their early 30's. It wasn't even close, and while I may have gone positive, the rest of my team had no damn hope. This is not fun.
* The airplane sequence at the start has a bug where if you hang off the side of a truck at the start, for whatever reason your character just auto falls and dies.
* 3 games tonight on Airfield were nothing but an entire team camping in one spot of the map with snipers and the machine pistols. There was nothing our team could really do. We tried to get, or at least I did, the grenade and rocket launcher, but I'd get sniped before I could kill anyone with either. Flanking was a no go, and since my team was just randoms without headsets, pushing together wasn't an option. I'd like to see a playlist for people who aren't with anyone else to get on teams, so I don't get matched up against a group of 5 guys who game together versus my random casual PSN Joe squad.
* The aiming on the sniper even with max sensitivity is too stiff. It needs to be more smooth and less restrictive so I can quickly move the reticule on a moving target.
* Cover system feels cumbersome. I constantly try to just tap O to roll and I go hurling to a wall and get stuck to die. In fact I'd go as far as to say the cover in this game is just there to get in your damn way as an obstacle course rather than be something to incorporate to give you an advantage over someone standing out in the open.
* I also got that one glitch we were supposed to note here when we got it. It was at the end of a co-op on round 9, with 4:16 to go, 3 of us, and it said someone left the game right then, and we got the something string or w/e it's called in the upper right in red. Dropped us out and we got none of the hard earned experience.
I think that covers everything from tonight. Overall I liked UC2 better in just pure game play and how it handled moment to moment.
PetriP-TNT
Member
That Micro SMG + running thing is really overpowered at this point. You can totally dominate after you get it in your launch set up.
Oh and once the end of the round message said "UNKNOWN STRING CALLED!!!!" or something, heh!
Oh and once the end of the round message said "UNKNOWN STRING CALLED!!!!" or something, heh!
theAntagonist
Member
zlatko said:Played around 4-5 hours tonight, and here's my main issues from tonight's session:
* Grenades are fucking stupid. You can throw them 900 miles, and they instantly blow up when they touch the ground. These need to be over hauled to not blow up for 3+ seconds once they are on the ground and the length to which they can be chucked across the map shortened by a lot.
* Machine Pistol into melee = broken as fuck. Had 3 games in a row with completely different people on Air Field where this was all anyone on the other team was doing. They'd run around like chickens with their head cut off, hip fire the machine pistol at you and sway back and forth so you miss the majority of your shots, then just punch you once to kill you. It looks like it's 3 bullets from that pistol + a melee = you're dead.
* Melee is broken in general. I've had several instances where I get punched once, and I move 10+ feet back and they melee air and it still connects. At the same time I think it's stupid that if I punch someone first, then they punch back, then I punch again, that it ALWAYS ends in us both dying. This is why dedicated servers are a must for a game like this, or else you get bull shit moments like this non stop. I would change it to make the hit box smaller for character models and you have to be super close for melee, as well as make it so you need 3 melees if it's face to face, and 2 melees if you get one hit behind them.
* Player matching is atrocious. I had a game where it was me at level 14, 3 level 1's, and one level 7 versus an entire time of guys over 25 into their early 30's. It wasn't even close, and while I may have gone positive, the rest of my team had no damn hope. This is not fun.
* The airplane sequence at the start has a bug where if you hang off the side of a truck at the start, for whatever reason your character just auto falls and dies.
* 3 games tonight on Airfield were nothing but an entire team camping in one spot of the map with snipers and the machine pistols. There was nothing our team could really do. We tried to get, or at least I did, the grenade and rocket launcher, but I'd get sniped before I could kill anyone with either. Flanking was a no go, and since my team was just randoms without headsets, pushing together wasn't an option. I'd like to see a playlist for people who aren't with anyone else to get on teams, so I don't get matched up against a group of 5 guys who game together versus my random casual PSN Joe squad.
* The aiming on the sniper even with max sensitivity is too stiff. It needs to be more smooth and less restrictive so I can quickly move the reticule on a moving target.
* Cover system feels cumbersome. I constantly try to just tap O to roll and I go hurling to a wall and get stuck to die. In fact I'd go as far as to say the cover in this game is just there to get in your damn way as an obstacle course rather than be something to incorporate to give you an advantage over someone standing out in the open.
* I also got that one glitch we were supposed to note here when we got it. It was at the end of a co-op on round 9, with 4:16 to go, 3 of us, and it said someone left the game right then, and we got the something string or w/e it's called in the upper right in red. Dropped us out and we got none of the hard earned experience.
I think that covers everything from tonight. Overall I liked UC2 better in just pure game play and how it handled moment to moment.
I totally agree with all of this, especially close ranged combat and a 'mercenaries' type of playlist for total randoms. I actually got paired up against some gaffers tonight in TDM, and my team of randoms was getting obliterated, especially me lol. Needless to say, it wasn't fun in the slightest.
Close quarters in this game is severely sloppy. Melees seem totally inconsistent, and throwing a melee will drop you to a dead stop so most will just run circles around you all squirrely, and it looks horrendous. I don't know of a better solution, but I do think something needs to be done.
Movement and evasion definitely feels clunky and not very elegant at times. Hopefully in the retail version, when I want to roll away, I'll roll away, and when I want to duck behind cover, I'll duck behind cover. As it is now, it seems like a good thirty to forty percent of the time, my character is doing the exact opposite to what I want to have happen, which is extremely frustrating.
I played some Three Team Deathmatch tonight for the first time and thought it was very enjoyable even playing with randoms. With a friend, it'd be extremely fun I think. Have yet to play FFA, but I don't typically enjoy that in other shooters so we'll see.
I think if ND makes a few slight tweaks to the movement, aiming, and evasion, the game will play better. As others have said, I think the health is just right; not too much and not too little either.
cometowner
Neo Member
I have been playing this in the weekend and here my opinion:
Its dam good making me playing a lot because its such a masterpiece.
Its dam good making me playing a lot because its such a masterpiece.
been havin a blast playin split screen three team on my buddies 70 in. dlp. Thumbs up , theres quirks, but the levels are fun and split screen runs smooth. I also agree something could be done to melee, sometimes I just get screwed and it doesnt feel legit, then i get someone from behind and snap their neck and all is forgiven haha.
Had the weirdest bug happen in a round of Three TDM. People, didn't die. They fell down, but they still had the indicator that they where alive. And if you went down, you didn't get to respawn. You were living dead. Had to quit out when I died due to this.
Also, I hate randoms sometimes. Played some TTDM, and gah! Guy in my team just died. He never, in any match, had any kills. At all.
Also, I hate randoms sometimes. Played some TTDM, and gah! Guy in my team just died. He never, in any match, had any kills. At all.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
It just sounds like it's lag to me.
Man, I must have played over 30 matches of 3 Team Deathmatch with a friend and out of those 30 matches, we only lost about three times. That mode is amazing.
Currently level 33. I've also unlocked costume stuff for my characters so picking up the treasure loot has paid off!
I've got the Fedora Hat for Sully, most of the villains gear, and I'm only missing one treasure for Drake's hat and Sully's fishermen hat.
Good games tonight, guys. Sorry I couldn't play much longer, but I'm tired as fuck. GAF always dominates, baby!
Man, I must have played over 30 matches of 3 Team Deathmatch with a friend and out of those 30 matches, we only lost about three times. That mode is amazing.
Currently level 33. I've also unlocked costume stuff for my characters so picking up the treasure loot has paid off!
I've got the Fedora Hat for Sully, most of the villains gear, and I'm only missing one treasure for Drake's hat and Sully's fishermen hat.
Good games tonight, guys. Sorry I couldn't play much longer, but I'm tired as fuck. GAF always dominates, baby!
Fratkabula
Banned
ND needs to provide a "I'm coming for you" button. This would let the dying guy decide if he can go ahead and suicide or wait.
iNvidious01 said:
You have alot, ALOT of good points, but this one stands out as bad. This is a big NO. Seriously, the Uncharted 2 Beta Gold Rush was horrible due to this. That's why they changed it. Everyone was just camping around, waiting for somebody else to do the work, so they could just grab the treasure and get the medal.
It was horribly broken. And all that shit would start over again.
iNvid02
Member
KAOz said:
eh maybe your right, im always the one capturing that shit so feel like i need to be rewarded.
if the team killing shenanigans to get the treasure did start, there should be heavy penalties like your next 3 kills dont count, or you cant spawn for 1-3 minutes, or all treasure you've earned goes to shit. something to stop idiots from even contemplating it
Steve McQueen
Member
I suck at the game, but it's fun to play. The lag in melee is quite bad sometimes.
I punch a guy in the face and he does the same to me. I die and after I die, he's still getting punched in his face by my invisible fist and dies too.
I punch a guy in the face and he does the same to me. I die and after I die, he's still getting punched in his face by my invisible fist and dies too.
iNvidious01 said:
Yeah, I agree with the Team Killing. But, not the reward for capturing. As it is, with everyone getting the "Captured" medal, it's way better.
Seriously, there was nothing worse than playing Plunder, with most of the team holed up near the chest, just waiting for someone to throw it there, so they could grab it and get the medal. This was basically EVERY Plunder match in the UC2 Beta.
And you would feel even worse than you do now. Since you would fight to get it, try to get it home, then someone from your team just grabs it just as you're close. Thereby erasing all the stuff you did, and giving that person the reward instead.
That's why Naughty Dog changed it to the better.
Shadow of the BEAST
Banned
I dont understand how the melee works. I mash the square button but gets kicked down every time.
i only won once and that was after i unleashed an whole clip in to the other dude.
i only won once and that was after i unleashed an whole clip in to the other dude.
iNvid02
Member
Shadow of the BEAST said:
it takes 2 hits to down someone unless you hit them directly from behind or directly in their face when they are running at you i think
its better to shoot first, and then melee to finish off. you'll only need 1 hit to kill them.
if your in a laggy game, sometimes you get killed in one hit, no idea why
sometimes you'll end up in a melee 1-2 fight where you hit, the other guy hits you hit etc
if you know your gonna die (e.g. you hit him after he hit you), just throw a nade at his feet
DoctorButt
Member
wouldn't mind playing with some gaffers
Jme
Member
I like the take-off scene, I hope they incorporate more split scene maps into the MP, its really a cool premise to switch things up like that in the middle of a match. Plus it adds a sort of cinematic feel to it.
My only complaint about take-off scene is how hit-or-miss the jumping from truck to truck is. I can't count the number of times I've fallen to my death on what was clearly a good jump.
My only complaint about take-off scene is how hit-or-miss the jumping from truck to truck is. I can't count the number of times I've fallen to my death on what was clearly a good jump.
blitzcloud
Banned
KAOz said:
Maybe they could give money for the meters you draw it towards your base? Even throws would count. And as for medals on the case:
carry it certain meters towards the capture chest = medal
dying while carrying it = medal
No medal or anythign for being the one who puts it there.
Or maybe they could make it so the person who carried it longer gets a medal.
ChocolateCupcakes
Member
Huh? Where you end up only depends on if you are a hero or villain. Not if you are winning or losing or on the plane or not.gogo said:
I find the take-off annoyingly predictable, for villains and heroes. Oh this thing again, okay, I'll cover the left rear door, you guys take the front and for the most part we've held the plane. For villains, I know the rhythm of the trucks, the platforming is mostly procedural, kind of annoying and there's a only a certain amounts of ways you can really approach either taking or defending the plane.
Maybe it's because of the repetition of the maps, idk, still think I'll be down on it when it hits full retail.
Maybe it's because of the repetition of the maps, idk, still think I'll be down on it when it hits full retail.
You know what would be good; moving the "Records" part into the Customisation menu. At least the Treasures. That way, I won't have to back out of Matchmaking or anything to just look at the Treasures sets I have, and what's missing. Do it Naughty Dog!
A Treasure Perk would be cool too.
Also, maybe something with more stats. I want to see how many games I've completed in the various modes, etc. Would make it easier. Specially when going for the "play X amount of matches in all gamemodes"-challenges.
A Treasure Perk would be cool too.
Also, maybe something with more stats. I want to see how many games I've completed in the various modes, etc. Would make it easier. Specially when going for the "play X amount of matches in all gamemodes"-challenges.
Maleficence
Member
So you know those guys that grab you from behind and strangle you in co-op? It tells you to bash triangle but it doesn't seem to do anything and I always require someone to come help me. Is this a bug or intended?
Net_Wrecker
Member
Y'know what? I don't like the inclusion of loadouts.
Actually, I think they ruin a the balance of finding weapons in the game, and I'd like to see them removed from Hardcore completely. Being able to start with a Sniper, a G-Mal, and/or a Micro makes traveling around map to gather these things pointless, and is now reducing every match of Chateau into a game of "Who can get lucky with the Micro and hold the upper section longest?" No one is using the turrets anymore, and no one bothers with the courtyard area. The Para 9 Pistol is useless in these situations as is using cover.
The starting backup weapon in particular is an issue here. It should not be another fully automatic gun. I'll even deal with starting with a G-Mal, but the back up NEEDS to be semi-auto, or the game just turns into a spray + melee fest.
Actually, I think they ruin a the balance of finding weapons in the game, and I'd like to see them removed from Hardcore completely. Being able to start with a Sniper, a G-Mal, and/or a Micro makes traveling around map to gather these things pointless, and is now reducing every match of Chateau into a game of "Who can get lucky with the Micro and hold the upper section longest?" No one is using the turrets anymore, and no one bothers with the courtyard area. The Para 9 Pistol is useless in these situations as is using cover.
The starting backup weapon in particular is an issue here. It should not be another fully automatic gun. I'll even deal with starting with a G-Mal, but the back up NEEDS to be semi-auto, or the game just turns into a spray + melee fest.
Maleficence
Member
jett said:
Hmm now that you mention it, that makes sense, thanks
