SlasherJPC
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Man the best way to get replied to is to say UC4 is the worst game in the franchise. It's true what they say about what people respond to the most. Controversy.
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Uncharted 4 spoiler free early copy impressions
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ViewtifulJC
Banned
man he might honestly feel that way, no need for clicks
still lmaoooooooooooooo
still lmaoooooooooooooo
people highly regard past uncharted stories?
maaan what am I reading? the gameplay alone makes UC4 ND's best game
Exactly...I feel like I am taking crazy pills.
Flynn was such a jackass lmao. I liked Eddie tho.
Coolbgdog12
Member
So far I just finished chapter 11 and yeah, I think Uncharted Drake's fortune is way better gameplay wise. The way enemies go flying when you shot them with the pistol... Plus the area is too big in UC4, I don't have time to drive I just want to shoot shoot shoot.
Fancy Clown
Member
Yeah and he was a great jackass. Really solid characterization, and he bounces off the rest of the cast so well
Nice try mate.
WordsintheWater
Member
Yeah I honestly can't see how you could say that UC4 isn't the best villain wise, like what?
I'm about 2/3s through and very much enjoying the game. I find it's a much more mature version of Uncharted so I can see why people who liked the more pulpy, 'goofy' Uncharted of the past might criticize the tone of the game. It still has the *best* banter in video games, has some solid set pieces that are more grounded while still being crazy (though I always wonder how buildings etc collapsing in cities fail to attract ANY attention from locals). Less "OMG DRAKE BARELY MADE IT BUT SOMEONE GRABBED HIM!" than previous games, less "OMG DRAKE FELL FROM 50 FEET ONTO SOLID ROCK BUT IS TOTS OK!", hell at one point he even struggles to climb up rocks which is cool.
Little touches like enemies getting a chance to fuck you over when you think they are dead (I won't spoil the specifics) are really outstanding as are the multiple paths to the same destination, even when crawling through little caves etc. Acting is top notch as expected.
I am curious about replay value as there are looooong stretches of exploring/puzzles/story between the killin' so it would have been cool to have a straight up "skip-to-encounters" mode if you really just want action for the second go through.
Little touches like enemies getting a chance to fuck you over when you think they are dead (I won't spoil the specifics) are really outstanding as are the multiple paths to the same destination, even when crawling through little caves etc. Acting is top notch as expected.
I am curious about replay value as there are looooong stretches of exploring/puzzles/story between the killin' so it would have been cool to have a straight up "skip-to-encounters" mode if you really just want action for the second go through.
DriftingSpirit
Member
It does if I understand correctly.
flipswitch
Member
How big is the day 1 one patch?
Karspankey
Banned
Persona RS
Member
Well then I'll just shut my big mouth.
PS4 edition? I played it last month and felt it had the best feeling gameplay of the collection. I was headshotting dudes left and right. It's actually the biggest change for U4 as the guns feel REALLY inaccurate by comparision.
brickarts295
Member
MP is still not available yet? Also what is taking them so long to upload the trophies to the servers. Games like Zero Escape which is not due in like a month already has them on the servers.
I recorded a quick clip of what he was talking about while I was playing through the game on Friday: https://twitter.com/antitrop/status/728698535944708097
Ya, I'm shooting him in the arm, not the head, but that shit ain't registering.
Death Metalist
Member
Well, I only played for abit but I can confirm so far that the shooting feels immensely better than the previous games.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Here's my upload.
https://youtu.be/9N5eQ84Eg_I
I had a lot more footage from the well area with the smoke grenade but while editing, I accidentally hit overwrite rather than save as new.
MiamiWesker
Member
So here is my thought process on why I like uncharted 2 more. Yes gameplay is better in 4, gameplay enhancements alone don't make for a better game. MGSV has the best gameplay, most won't say that's the best MGS game. Gameplay to me is not just mechanics, it is how you use them. And when U4 uses them it's pretty damn great but there is so much down time where you the player is basically doing nothing much other than moving forward and just looking around places.
This is an action game, therefore action should be the focus. An action game where half of the game is not action hurts the product. Is it good for story, sure but I'm not going to play this game over and over for story, I play it for the encounters, for the thrill of combat. I am not against downtime and story focused moments. The village scene in U2 was perfect in its timing. The giraffe in TLOU, again perfect. But in this game downtime happend after nearly every gun fight. The whole game was action, stop, action, stop, action, stop. If the stuff outside the gunplay was compelling from a gameplay perspective then fine but the platforming is still mostly automatic, puzzles mostly easy, and exploration just a way to get you to collect random treasures and notes. I like all that stuff when balanced well, I just don't think it was balanced that well in uncharted 4.
Everything else is a HUGE positive. Story, graphics, gunplay, encounter maps, when they had a big setpiece it was great.
This is an action game, therefore action should be the focus. An action game where half of the game is not action hurts the product. Is it good for story, sure but I'm not going to play this game over and over for story, I play it for the encounters, for the thrill of combat. I am not against downtime and story focused moments. The village scene in U2 was perfect in its timing. The giraffe in TLOU, again perfect. But in this game downtime happend after nearly every gun fight. The whole game was action, stop, action, stop, action, stop. If the stuff outside the gunplay was compelling from a gameplay perspective then fine but the platforming is still mostly automatic, puzzles mostly easy, and exploration just a way to get you to collect random treasures and notes. I like all that stuff when balanced well, I just don't think it was balanced that well in uncharted 4.
Everything else is a HUGE positive. Story, graphics, gunplay, encounter maps, when they had a big setpiece it was great.
Chronospherics
Member
Most if not all of your bullets are hitting the wooden flooring he's leaning down from.
It's a third person shooter, so your reticule isn't centered with the hitscans origin, therefore your character can't see something you can (your perspective is different to drakes) then he can't hit it, and it would be broken if it didn't work that way.
Sure it hurts the product if your measuring it solely as an 'action game' or 'third person shooter', but if we step outside that arbitrary framework it's a better game overall, a game that has more variety, tells a better story, features better hit detection, better AI, better level design. It's a better 'action adventure' game, if you need the labels.
It's true that things like the puzzles do not have a win / lose condition, and the platforming mostly too, but I don't think everyone needs the difficulty to enjoy those components of the game. If the puzzle were super challenging, they would be frustrating, progression stoppers for many, as they stand however, they're challenging enough to at least make you pause and think a little, but at the same time easy enough to keep the games pacing moving fluidly.
I think your opinion is fine, you want more gunplay and that's fair enough, but I don't think the game is objectively worse without it. It's just a personal preference thing and I doubt many people are going to see it as 'hurting the product'. It almost seems as though you've gone into the experience with too many ideas of how you wanted it to play out, and obviously you're a little disappointed when it doesn't match, for better or worse.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
The action that's there, would you say it's equivalent in time played to previous entries? I don't expect you to positively know this off hand, but having more down time with about the same amount of action as before will never be a bad thing for me. I know for a fact I'm not the only one who wished for more nooks and pathways and openness during exploration.
But I'd see your point if it was considerably less action than in the past.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Def more downtime in UC 4 then the others, but for me this is an action adventure series, so for me it's perfect really but can see why action folks might think there is too much down time.
Represent.
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Just played the E3 2015 demo section. HOLY FUCKING CHRIST.
ND just showing off, fucking mindblowing... Never watched the full demo when they released it. Going in blind to that whole section was fucking nuts. my jaw was on the floor the entire time.
ND just showing off, fucking mindblowing... Never watched the full demo when they released it. Going in blind to that whole section was fucking nuts. my jaw was on the floor the entire time.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
even then...the combat in UC4 >>> UC2. Like if you can play UC2 after UC4 and still think that action is better, with those mechanics/sound design/animations/controls...more power to ya brotha, but you clearly playing these games for another reason than me.
I pretty much label anyone who is into kids a villain, and I'd say it's pretty unlikely that this was a predilection he developed post-virus.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I don't personally. I've just finished 2 and started 3. The action doesn't hold a candle, hell none of the gameplay does in 1 thru 3 in comparison to 4.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
low key hoping the servers go up at midnight
ummm This can only be good in my book.
I welcome more downtime and varied acitivities such as exploration and puzzles..
Unless "downtime" means anything tantamount to "Forced walking", "Forced scripted shallow interactions for extended periods of time".
I am hopeful this game does better than relive these gen 7 game design artifacts.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
arent you looking forward to FF15
Coolbgdog12
Member
Nah there's none of that forced walking moments. There's lots of "other" things going on that help push the story forward. Then there's the outside in a big area with someone but you're not quite fighting gameplay. Mostly exploration, puzzles, climbing around and stuff. There's gameplay sprinkled into those moments. Then there's all out action moments which end and then it's back to story moments, exploration/puzzle/stuff with some action here and there. There's nothing like TO 1886 where a chapter is hold forward to watch drake walk and talk.
damien1928
Banned
Yeah I think uncharted 4 will be regarded the worst one in time, you guys are just hyped at the minute at the visuals and the first time play through, hype will die down and turn to hate pretty soon, I'm nearly finished 4 and I've had tons more fun with uncharted 1,2 and 3.
Multiple replays won't be to fun.
All that climbing.
It's still a good game, but this isn't uncharted.
Multiple replays won't be to fun.
All that climbing.
It's still a good game, but this isn't uncharted.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I'm playing through UC2 on Crushing and I welcome those slower moments. The waves of enemies can just be "ugh" at times.
Of course. Internet is gonna internet. It will more than likely be a vocal minority though.
Saberus
Member
Nope...this is uncharted.......and much improved, the fact that the gun fights are more down to earth, not wave based with a good amount of down time between encounters makes this my favorite. I love the climbing and great deal of breaks between the action. Also wtf at that music and story rating......this games story is my favorite so far and there is one very, very beautiful scene that the music hits dead on was absolutely beautiful.
This uncharted will be the one I replay.....sorry. UC2 is over for me outside of maybe watching someone else enjoy it first time through. This is my definitive uncharted game hands down
MegaSackman
Member
Haha this is sounding like the new Radiohead album, lots of brilliance there but there's still people that want the old "Rock" back. Time to evolve I guess.
Coolbgdog12
Member
I've played UC2 a gazillion times. I don't think I'll ever go back to it unless I just feel like it. Everytime a new UC comes out, I rarely go back to the older one. When UC3 came out, I played it the most since it was new. Plus, MP is what I'll be playing forever until it dies out and a new ND game spiritually takes care of UC.
While playing the game I just felt they took every criticism I had in the past of the series and addressed it in the game.
There might be things I'm missing or will come up after thinking about it more but after UC3, if it had to be another Uncharted, it's this one.
I relate to this post a lot and am almost tempted to agree, but it is Uncharted lol
Coolbgdog12
Member
They're really the last of them huh?
Exactly it may not hit the highs that 2 had. But it keeps the bar overall steadily higher. There wsnt a dull moment or a moment that felt wasted. The gameplay improvements are fantastic and the game plays like a dream. The story is great and solid. I don't think you could finish the series off a better way.
Btw if anyone really wants to know
I found an area that drops to the lower 20's in frame rate, but it has absolutely nothing to do with gameplay lol
Coolbgdog12
Member
I"m not even done with the SP but I'm already thinking about the DLC....
Comrade Crunch
Member
Just completed the game, I'm thinking it's my favorite, the gameplay is just so much better, the climbing felt less automatic.
I also love the way the story was done, it lacked some things I wasn't a huge fan of in the previous games.
I'll be replaying it with filters and modifiers now, really looking forward to it. This is something I've never done with an uncharted game, I was always kind of frustrated with the last gameplay parts of those games and didn't feel like having to relive it.
I also love the way the story was done, it lacked some things I wasn't a huge fan of in the previous games.
I'll be replaying it with filters and modifiers now, really looking forward to it. This is something I've never done with an uncharted game, I was always kind of frustrated with the last gameplay parts of those games and didn't feel like having to relive it.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
This really isn't Uncharted tbh
-Interesting story
-rich characters
-amazing gunplay
-great endgame and bossfight
-awesome encounter design
-automatic platforming but still somehow engaging.
what the fuck druckmann and straley really strayed from the roots.
-Interesting story
-rich characters
-amazing gunplay
-great endgame and bossfight
-awesome encounter design
-automatic platforming but still somehow engaging.
what the fuck druckmann and straley really strayed from the roots.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I heard a rumor that might be cool/interesting puzzles in this one too, which seems really odd coming off UC2.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
yeah, puzzles actually not completely braindead and boring.
almost anti uncharted.
I think one of them took me more than 2 mins to figure out!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
wow
they might as well just called it a different game instead of betraying fans with this bullshit
they might as well just called it a different game instead of betraying fans with this bullshit