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Upcoming Ubisoft titles seemingly removed from Steam worldwide [edit: they're back]

Blast Processing said:
Not to rebut your point, but how many people play BF4? It might just be that TF is a bad game to some degree.
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Not as many as you'd think. There are plenty of people that just can't be bothered to buy it on Origin or dislike EA/Origin enough that they skip the game. Steam has a very, very large userbase. If you saw a Steam friend playing Battlefield 4, you might be more inclined to purchase it.

As it is now, you've got to fire up the bullshit Battlelog (terrible idea) thing and hope it accurately shows who is online.

I don't know anyone that thinks highly enough of Origin to make it their default platform. EA fans have sort of just begrudgingly put up with it. Free games are cool too, I guess. It's just not added value, which is the entire point of Steam. Piracy becomes more likely and problematic when you've got twelve different clients and storefronts.
 
CosmicQueso said:
Because the better option for PC gaming is to never push tech specs forward. No Riva 128 compatibility no sale is what I say.
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Lol? A geforce 680 is probably like $500+. That's more than the cost of a PS4 entirely. Games shouldn't require that much of a video card just to run.
 
Well this is bad news. I don't mind Uplay in all honesty, but I prefer to try and keep my games in as few as places are possible(preferably just GoG and Steam).
 
Im over this shit. I was REALLY looking for a reason to buy Far Cry 4, but because of how quiet they have been about the multiplayer and Map Editor. They dont give a damn about their communities, shit product support, anti-consumer practices, etc.

What a shit company.
 
legacyzero said:
Im over this shit. I was REALLY looking for a reason to buy Far Cry 4, but because of how quiet they have been about the multiplayer and Map Editor. They dont give a damn about tgeir communities, shit product support, anti-consumer practices, etc.

What a shit company.
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Preach it!
 
Ubisoft games haven't been "on steam" for a while. You launch them through Steam and it fires up Uplay. All they've done here is finally given up the pretense.

As shitty as this is for people who want all their games on steam, this is the other side of the "free market and open ecosystem" coin.
 
NZNova said:
As shitty as this is for people who want all their games on steam, this is the other side of the "free market and open ecosystem" coin.
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Competition is awesome.

I have little faith that Ubisoft will provide adequate competition to Steam however. In fact, I think the very notion is so far fetched it is a given that it will be awful.
 
Could easily see this becoming a trend. Why give up 30 percent when you're making people use your client to play the games anyway? In the long term Ubisoft has a preexisting relationship with Microsoft and can figure prominently in the Windows 10 store.
 
Just read a couple of posts on reddit by people claiming to have talked with Ubi customer support reps who said this was just a mistake.

If those are credible, then maybe we'll see the games restored tomorrow?
 
It was inevitable. Nobody wants to keep paying valve 30% when they can keep that money themselves. They will definitely lose sales to the no steam no buy crowd but if you want to play their games on PC you will install yet another client as people are trained to do with origin exclusives. Maybe someone can make a frontend that links to all the stores and makes it look like everything is in one place. Have it come with a Steam, Uplay and Origin skin lol.
 
Blast Processing said:
Just read a couple of posts on reddit by people claiming to have talked with Ubi customer support reps who said this was just a mistake.

If those are credible, then maybe we'll see the games restored tomorrow?
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Here's that quote:

Just talked to ubisoft livechat. The rep confirmed that it was a mistake and they are working with steam to get the games added back asap.
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then again, Ubi support probably doesn't even know what's up...
 
Valnen said:
Lol? A geforce 680 is probably like $500+. That's more than the cost of a PS4 entirely. Games shouldn't require that much of a video card just to run.
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I agree that the 680 requirement is bullshit, but the only reason the 680 is that expensive is because it's out of stock everywhere, from what I can tell. Hell, a 970 is cheaper than a 680. :P
 
maxiell said:
Could easily see this becoming a trend. Why give up 30 percent when you're making people use your client to play the games anyway? In the long term Ubisoft has a preexisting relationship with Microsoft and can figure prominently in the Windows 10 store.
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and they would have to give 30% to microsoft. and they have to give 30% to GMG, and to Gamersgate, and to Amazon etc

Again, pulling from steam has nothing to do with the 30%

edit: assuming they did pull from steam and this isnt just a mistake
 
Hoping it's a mistake. I pre-ordered Unity on Steam recently, so this is great timing.

I could easily get their games on UPlay, but I like having games on Steam - the time-tracking, friends lists, etc. At least give me the option.
 
Fine with me. If I have to use Uplay anyway I don't see any real benefit to adding Steam into the mix.

Kind of funny the people who won't deal with more than one storefront. I probably deal with 10-15 online storefronts for the various things I buy online. One more isn't going to be the last straw.

Furthermore from a business point of view I can't blame EA or Ubisoft for not wanting to put all of their eggs in the Steam basket, and/or finding it difficult to come to terms with Valve that both sides are happy with.
 
legacyzero said:
Im over this shit. I was REALLY looking for a reason to buy Far Cry 4, but because of how quiet they have been about the multiplayer and Map Editor. They dont give a damn about their communities, shit product support, anti-consumer practices, etc.

What a shit company.
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Ubisoft might as well abandon Steam. When playing a Ubisoft game trough Steam, I never get the feeling of actually playing it trough Steam, but Uplay. You can`t earn Steam achievements, and you have to connect trough Uplay.
 
Conspiracy theory: What if they just took it off to implement the new DRM that Lords of the Fallen, Fifa 15 are using and GTA V will be using?

I don't mind the DRM however I heard that it is the cause of the crashes for Lords of the Fallen and since Assassins Creed games are sensitive, I hope the DRM stays out.
 
Well, I don't care for Ubisoft games so this doesn't matter to me.

But I'm interested in seeing how this will affect their sales. Those numbers show how important are for gamers Ubisoft games that they will completely tolerate Uplay as long as they can play those games.
 
If they improve Uplay I will play their PC games in future. Origin and Battle.net work perfectly fine in tandem with Steam.

why does my Splinter Cell Blacklist never patch properly Ubisoft
 
As a console gamer can someone explain why this is a big deal? Moving your wrist slightly to open a different client is basically no effort. It's easier than changing a disk or something.
 
mrpookles said:
Hoping it's a mistake. I pre-ordered Unity on Steam recently, so this is great timing.

I could easily get their games on UPlay, but I like having games on Steam - the time-tracking, friends lists, etc. At least give me the option.
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But you'll be using UPlay even though you bought it on Steam. It's been this way for awhile now.
 
Teletraan1 said:
It was inevitable. Nobody wants to keep paying valve 30% when they can keep that money themselves. They will definitely lose sales to the no steam no buy crowd but if you want to play their games on PC you will install yet another client as people are trained to do with origin exclusives. Maybe someone can make a frontend that links to all the stores and makes it look like everything is in one place. Have it come with a Steam, Uplay and Origin skin lol.
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The truth is, you had to install it anyway. You buy a Ubisoft game on Steam, it installs Uplay automatically. The writing was on the wall the moment they created Uplay. They were just getting people used to it first, before switching over to it completely. It also allowed them to iron out bugs beforehand.

I like some aspects of Uplay, but in truth, I would rather not have the thing in the first place.
 
Benzychenz said:
As a console gamer can someone explain why this is a big deal? Moving your wrist slightly to open a different client is basically no effort. It's easier than changing a disk or something.
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its like if ubisoft games (or EA games) didnt work on PSN, they only worked on a console specific uplay / origin, so your PSN friends couldnt see you online, talk to you or couldnt play with you, unless you logged on that that other service

or if youre a collectionist, its like if you had your shelf of games, your assassis creeds 1 through black flag and whatnot, and then had a seperate lonely shelf with just that specific Assassins creed :p
 
Benzychenz said:
As a console gamer can someone explain why this is a big deal? Moving your wrist slightly to open a different client is basically no effort. It's easier than changing a disk or something.
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They aren't just launchers. They are friend lists, chat clients, stores. It is more convenient to have it centralized. When my CC expires, I'd rather update it one place. When I want to see if friends are online, I want to check in one place, and when I want to browse for something to buy, I'd prefer to go to a single store. When everyone (friends and publishers) was on Steam, PC users got a lot of the benefits of that seamless console experience, and that was nice. Its not the end of PC gaming, but it was nice while it lasted.
 
The only pluses about their games on Steam were that you didn't have to update the games yourself, and they're on your Steam account. Otherwise, you still had to put up with Uplay, and the games weren't playable without Steam open, even if you just opened the Uplay client. I have a mix of Steam and non-Steam Uplay games, and they're two totally separate libraries, which is stupid as fuck.
 
Wow. It seems that 2014 is going to be year that Ubisoft becomes arguably the most hated company in gaming:

1) Watch Dogs Downgrade
2) Watch Dogs Overall
3) Assassin's Creed Unity Parity and apparent technical issues
4) Division Downgrade and basically describing it as a modern Destiny
5) Removing games from Steam

And the year isn't even over yet. We still have the releases of AC:U, FC4, and The Crew.
 
Oublieux said:
In an ideal world, yes, this would be great as it would lead to what's called perfect competition. But, that's hardly ever the case. And as in my previous post, I just think that right now, the current tactics are a means to achieve an end (to break into the digital platform space). Once Ubisoft and Origin actually have a chunk, they could start selling third party games, leading to price competition. Valve, Ubisoft, and EA might still hold onto their own games, however, to give them more sway.
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You're living in a fantasy land. Regardless of storefronts the price of games isn't going to go down, they aren't going to offer deeper sales, this is NOT going to be a pro-consumer decision. You know this. All this is gonna do is cause me to have a to boot up X, Y, Z client every time I want to play a game. Actually it wont, I'll just stop buying PC games.
 
Woo-Fu said:
Fine with me. If I have to use Uplay anyway I don't see any real benefit to adding Steam into the mix.

Kind of funny the people who won't deal with more than one storefront. I probably deal with 10-15 online storefronts for the various things I buy online. One more isn't going to be the last straw.

Furthermore from a business point of view I can't blame EA or Ubisoft for not wanting to put all of their eggs in the Steam basket, and/or finding it difficult to come to terms with Valve that both sides are happy with.
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What would you prefer though? Multiple storefronts or just one?

There a number of benefits to using just Steam. It has the best features, and it is widespread enough that a good number of your friends use it. It's all there in one place.

I've never really liked having multiple DD services running at the same time just to play one game. I would much rather have all games running just in Steam. However. considering I got a lot of those games on sale anyway, it was well worth the compromise. The sales are probably going to be less frequent now though.
 
NoPiece said:
They aren't just launchers. They are friend lists, chat clients, stores. It is more convenient to have it centralized. When my CC expires, I'd rather update it one place. When I want to see if friends are online, I want to check in one place, and when I want to browse for something to buy, I'd prefer to go to a single store. When everyone (friends and publishers) was on Steam, PC users got a lot of the benefits of that seamless console experience, and that was nice. Its not the end of PC gaming, but it was nice while it lasted.
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Plus now I have to worry about numerous services and their security. It's just a mess that I don't want to have to deal with and will not deal with.
 
I think a big part of where UPlay, Steam, and Origin are today lies in why each application was originally designed.

Steam started out as an auto-installer and auto-patcher. It started out as DRM dressed in the shape of a program that actually made it easier for people to install and update their games.

Origin started out as store and a simple download manager.

UPlay started out as a reward system and customer loyalty program.
 
whatever...not gonna stop me from buying them. i rather have one client open than two. shame, but lets be honest. the achievement system in uplay is just so much better than steams. i like them gifts
 
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