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[Can Crusher]

People act as if the likes of CoD, Assassins Creed, Fifa, etc aren't the real system sellers. Xbox 360 coasted on 3rd party software peeps. As did the Ps2 to a lesser extent.

 

[omonimo]

It begins. I was just at work the other and a guy came in with some buddies and was looking at the PS4 section. He asked if there was anything special coming with CoD: AW and I told him about the AW Xbone bundle. He got really excited when he heard it had 1TB and other features you can't get on PS4. He comes back the next day with his PS4 and games and trades them all in, saying his buddies will be trading in their PS4s for Xbones too. You all laughed at the Xbox One when it first came out, but let's look at the facts. Xbox One has:

- the best exclusives (Halo: MCC, Sunset Overdrive, NFL Network)
- the best controller
- the best media apps
- the brightest future
- the most fun per each hour spent playing a game
- the best network infrastructure powered by expensive cloud servers
- the cheapest consoles

compared to the PS4 which has:

- the best graphics (who cares, gameplay>graphics)
- the most indie games (who plays indies?)
- the worst controller
- the worst network infrastructure ran by monkeys
- the worst network security imaginable
- the most rabid bunch of fanboys ever seen
- the most arrogant executives

When you stop and compare the pros and cons for each system, can you really blame those guys for trading in their PS4s with all the broken promises and stupid pictures of tubs for a Xbox One? Jump in GAF.

uh. Very optimistic.

 

[orochi91]

When I saw it, I instantly saw Cerny bowing as he enters Shu's office and him stopping him.

"My friend, you bow to no one."

*Cue up-swelling music*

PS4 to win 17 Oscars confirmed.

 

[Wickerbasket]

Look. The playstation patforms have always had a lower proportion of shooter fans than xbox.

I stands to reason that outside the intial hype, a disappointing shooter title will have shorter legs on the PS4 dispite the gap in userbase.

Add in the problems (and perception of problems) with PSN, it stands to reason that Microsoft probably are picking up the bulk of tail end destiny sales.

Well, there's no reason to speculate, because we'll see the numbers next NPD.

Until then, all we have to go off is last month's numbers.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Here come the fake posts again, don't you guys ever get tired of fake trolling?

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Damn...

"The battle for 2nd/3rd place is moot."

 

[GrizzleBoy]

So many failed sarcasm detectors lol.

 

[Ol No Bones]

Sony did a as good job as they could, meaning that they they have supported PS3 for too much.

Only in 2013 they released GT6, God of War Ascension, The Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls [and Puppeteer]. Almost all of those games sold poor to OKish [TLOU was major hit], and cold have been a major heavyhitters if devs targeted PS4 launch window.

Instead, Sony spend 2-3 years of QD, SM and PD dev time on those games, while leaving only KZ:SF, Knack and Infamous for the PS4 launch window.


MS on other hand had very poor 1st party development in last years of X360.

I'm certainly not going to disagree. I tend to drop the previous generation quickly once a new Gen comes so even though I acknowledge that Sony did an excellent job supporting PS3 even up to this point, I personally was ready to move on. I still think the Xbox one is suffering from the lack of first party output the last few years leading up to the Xbox One.

One reason Im still very optimistic from this Gen is that we haven't seen much from either companies first party studios. most the exclusive games so far have been 3rd party studios being published by Sony and MS. Sony no doubt has a ton of projects we don't even know about and I suspect MS has a few though I think MS have shown most of what is coming in 2015 and 2016.

 

[N.Domixis]

Can't belive there will be no GTAV bundle, what the hell are they wiating for? Black friday?

 

[Dragonborn]

Do you guys not realize that he's trolling PS4 fanboy's?

They were bragging about Madden selling more on the PS4 in the August NPD thread while disregarding the XB1 Madden bundle:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=893306

Now these same exact people are factoring in the Destiny bundle.

Except that makes no sense because even with bundles included, PS4 Madden still sold more. So what's his point?

 

[Uno Venova]

compared to the PS4 which has:
- the most arrogant executives

 

[RedRooster]

It begins. I was just at work the other and a guy came in with some buddies and was looking at the PS4 section. He asked if there was anything special coming with CoD: AW and I told him about the AW Xbone bundle. He got really excited when he heard it had 1TB and other features you can't get on PS4. He comes back the next day with his PS4 and games and trades them all in, saying his buddies will be trading in their PS4s for Xbones too. You all laughed at the Xbox One when it first came out, but let's look at the facts. Xbox One has:

- the best exclusives (Halo: MCC, Sunset Overdrive, NFL Network)
- the best controller
- the best media apps
- the brightest future
- the most fun per each hour spent playing a game
- the best network infrastructure powered by expensive cloud servers
- the cheapest consoles

compared to the PS4 which has:

- the best graphics (who cares, gameplay>graphics)
- the most indie games (who plays indies?)
- the worst controller
- the worst network infrastructure ran by monkeys
- the worst network security imaginable
- the most rabid bunch of fanboys ever seen
- the most arrogant executives

When you stop and compare the pros and cons for each system, can you really blame those guys for trading in their PS4s with all the broken promises and stupid pictures of tubs for a Xbox One? Jump in GAF.

You make solid points. I think we should hear him out, fellas!

 

[Cess007]

It begins. I was just at work the other and a guy came in with some buddies and was looking at the PS4 section. He asked if there was anything special coming with CoD: AW and I told him about the AW Xbone bundle. He got really excited when he heard it had 1TB and other features you can't get on PS4. He comes back the next day with his PS4 and games and trades them all in, saying his buddies will be trading in their PS4s for Xbones too. You all laughed at the Xbox One when it first came out, but let's look at the facts. Xbox One has:

- the best exclusives (Halo: MCC, Sunset Overdrive, NFL Network)
- the best controller
- the best media apps
- the brightest future
- the most fun per each hour spent playing a game
- the best network infrastructure powered by expensive cloud servers
- the cheapest consoles

compared to the PS4 which has:

- the best graphics (who cares, gameplay>graphics)
- the most indie games (who plays indies?)
- the worst controller
- the worst network infrastructure ran by monkeys
- the worst network security imaginable
- the most rabid bunch of fanboys ever seen
- the most arrogant executives

When you stop and compare the pros and cons for each system, can you really blame those guys for trading in their PS4s with all the broken promises and stupid pictures of tubs for a Xbox One? Jump in GAF.

I will just sit here and wait to see how many people fall for this, Wynnebeck

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

So many failed sarcasm detectors lol.

You gotta understand. There's people in here being dead ass serious with their blatant fanboyism and then there's sarcastic trolling. I can't sift through it all.

 

[Rymuth]

Source? Or i guess you just made it up

Aquamarine and Creamsugar

 

[Begaria]

you forgot to add that Playstation is literally only about JRPGs and Panty Quest XIV

Shit, Panty Quest XIV was announced?! I gotta get my pre-order in.

 

[makingmusic476]

But that's kind of part of the point, right? It doesn't matter that the PS4 is going to crush the others, the XBO isn't going to be missing out on titles. It's not like the PS2 era where a 'AAA' game can be exclusive, because the amount of Xbox only owners was small enough that you could just comfortably write them off.

The libraries will be so similar, lots of people will only buy one, and they're so similar technology wise, that it'll always be worth making XBO SKUs.

Well yeah. I was kinda agreeing with you and musing aimlessly at the same time

 

[TNH853]

GTA V Bundle needs to happen, or else I am pretty sure X1 has November.

but only in the us. microsoft need´s to do something outside of the us. that's where they lose a lot of ground.

 

[Rad-]

People say that, but is there any real reason to think a generation is hurt by dominance? Last generation was the only close one really. It wasn't notably better to me, in fact, it was the worst.

Yes. Compare PS2 era to last gen as far as evolving the platforms go. The difference is a night and day in favor of last gen (online space, operating systems etc). Stuff like PSN+ wouldn't be around in a way it is now if it weren't for competition from Live.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Source? Or i guess you just made it up

From Sony PR from September NPD:

According to Activision internal estimates, the PS4 system is the #1 platform worldwide for Destiny based on units sold through as of October 4, 2014.

As others have said, standalone software-wise Destiny sold more on XOne, aided by the fact that each copy MS "gave" away counted as a sale. Meanwhile, the copies bundled with PS4 did NOT count as a sale. So, yes, at least last month, more people got Destiny on PS4 than XOne, despite NPD showing it sold more on XOne.

Sony also says PS+ subscribers have doubled since Destiny launched (obviously due in large pat by new hardware buyers).

enjoy having nothing to play this Christmas then everybody!

 

[imBask]

Shit, Panty Quest XIV was announced?! I gotta get my pre-order in.

yeah bro, the final boss is a 3 stage monster that you have to defeat with the power of friendship

 

[orochi91]

Source? Or i guess you just made it up

You should have a look at September NPD thread.

 

[BloodMoney]

Shit, Panty Quest XIV was announced?! I gotta get my pre-order in.

I hope it's 3D

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

Pretty damn nuts if you really let it sink in.

and LOL at all the people taking John seriously and quoting him to repeat what the other 40 people in front of them already said. Come on guys

I will just sit here and wait to see how many people fall for this, Wynnebeck

Probably as many as did with John's post, sadly.

 

[dakun]

Last generation brought a ton of innovation for online gaming. It also forced Sony get their shit together for PSN. Sony's network is still not the best. I think for consumers, we need companies fighting for our dollars.

They still do fight for our money though. In fact the opposite of what you are saying is true. One company dominating for a generation means other companies have to up their game and be innovative and deliver quality entertainment.
I would say that the 360 (In the US) and wii dominating the PS3 only benefited gamers when Sony decided to up their game mid generation and do us right with the PS4
Just like MS upped their game with the 360 after being destroyed by the PS2

 

[DC R1D3R]

From the same guy who told us to not read too much into the early PS4 sales.

he just woke up one morning and faced reality!

 

[Vizzeh]

It begins. I was just at work the other and a guy came in with some buddies and was looking at the PS4 section. He asked if there was anything special coming with CoD: AW and I told him about the AW Xbone bundle. He got really excited when he heard it had 1TB and other features you can't get on PS4. He comes back the next day with his PS4 and games and trades them all in, saying his buddies will be trading in their PS4s for Xbones too. You all laughed at the Xbox One when it first came out, but let's look at the facts. Xbox One has:

- the best exclusives (Halo: MCC, Sunset Overdrive, NFL Network)
- the best controller
- the best media apps
- the brightest future
- the most fun per each hour spent playing a game
- the best network infrastructure powered by expensive cloud servers
- the cheapest consoles

compared to the PS4 which has:

- the best graphics (who cares, gameplay>graphics)
- the most indie games (who plays indies?)
- the worst controller
- the worst network infrastructure ran by monkeys
- the worst network security imaginable
- the most rabid bunch of fanboys ever seen
- the most arrogant executives

When you stop and compare the pros and cons for each system, can you really blame those guys for trading in their PS4s with all the broken promises and stupid pictures of tubs for a Xbox One? Jump in GAF.

Man, half of that is completely inaccurate and based on your opinion. You cannot present that as fact. (Clearly having a laugh/trolling lol)

 

[Canis lupus]

 

[krypt0nian]

Destiny selling a lot more on Xbox One.
Despite the double digit millions Sony invested in the title.

Just throwing that stat out there for fun.
Console hardware sales don't always tell the full story for the industry as a whole.

Spoiler

Just talking about US for now

FALSE

hook-line-sinker lol

 

[DieH@rd]

It begins. I was just at work the other and a guy came in with some buddies and was looking at the PS4 section. He asked if there was anything special coming with CoD: AW and I told him about the AW Xbone bundle. He got really excited when he heard it had 1TB and other features you can't get on PS4. He comes back the next day with his PS4 and games and trades them all in, saying his buddies will be trading in their PS4s for Xbones too. You all laughed at the Xbox One when it first came out, but let's look at the facts. Xbox One has:

- the best exclusives (Halo: MCC, Sunset Overdrive, NFL Network)
- the best controller
- the best media apps
- the brightest future
- the most fun per each hour spent playing a game
- the best network infrastructure powered by expensive cloud servers
- the cheapest consoles

compared to the PS4 which has:

- the best graphics (who cares, gameplay>graphics)
- the most indie games (who plays indies?)
- the worst controller
- the worst network infrastructure ran by monkeys
- the worst network security imaginable
- the most rabid bunch of fanboys ever seen
- the most arrogant executives

When you stop and compare the pros and cons for each system, can you really blame those guys for trading in their PS4s with all the broken promises and stupid pictures of tubs for a Xbox One? Jump in GAF.

I am disappointed in you. You missed to mention:

 

[orochi91]

It begins. I was just at work the other and a guy came in with some buddies and was looking at the PS4 section. He asked if there was anything special coming with CoD: AW and I told him about the AW Xbone bundle. He got really excited when he heard it had 1TB and other features you can't get on PS4. He comes back the next day with his PS4 and games and trades them all in, saying his buddies will be trading in their PS4s for Xbones too. You all laughed at the Xbox One when it first came out, but let's look at the facts. Xbox One has:

- the best exclusives (Halo: MCC, Sunset Overdrive, NFL Network)
- the best controller
- the best media apps
- the brightest future
- the most fun per each hour spent playing a game
- the best network infrastructure powered by expensive cloud servers
- the cheapest consoles

compared to the PS4 which has:

- the best graphics (who cares, gameplay>graphics)
- the most indie games (who plays indies?)
- the worst controller
- the worst network infrastructure ran by monkeys
- the worst network security imaginable
- the most rabid bunch of fanboys ever seen
- the most arrogant executives

When you stop and compare the pros and cons for each system, can you really blame those guys for trading in their PS4s with all the broken promises and stupid pictures of tubs for a Xbox One? Jump in GAF.

This is awesome

So many folks fell for it.

 

[EGOMON]

enjoy having nothing to play this Christmas then everybody!

lol the salt just keeps building up

 

[sometimes i game]

Destiny selling a lot more on Xbox One.
Despite the double digit millions Sony invested in the title.

Just throwing that stat out there for fun.
Console hardware sales don't always tell the full story for the industry as a whole.

Spoiler

Just talking about US for now

This doesn't tell a whole story even if it's true which I don't think it is. That could be because X1 owners feel like they have less quality things to choose from, for example. Not saying that's the case, but this seems like a long term partnership. PS can't wipe away the MS/Bungie chemistry in one day. But certainly Destiny has done better on PS4 than it would have done without the partnership.

 

[Windom Earle]

I am disappointed in you. You missed to mention:

Still the best Xbone meme.

 

[Ryaaan14]

Guys is it safe to buy an Xbone? Yall are scaring me

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Just a point.

You do realise that John Harker has access to NPD data right? And probably a bit more besides.

He is one of the "Gaffers in the know" that Aqua often alluded to

He probably knows what he is talking about.

And no I dont think he will ever give out numbers. Not his style. Just a hint now and then.

 

[AstroNut325]

People act as if the likes of CoD, Assassins Creed, Fifa, etc aren't the real system sellers. Xbox 360 coasted on 3rd party software peeps. As did the Ps2 to a lesser extent.

This. I seriously believe people are paying attention to game specs. Having better performing multi-platform games can be a huge plus for many people.

 

[Blobbers]

This is bad, actually. The Xbox One is trailing way too much. The government should buy 5 million XBox Ones so the brand can get back on track and once again start to push Sony to try and improve their own business and software infrastructure.

Y'know, for competition. It is good (the competition).

 

[lonedigitalwolf]

Weep for MS?, of course not, they should be in a worse position than they already are if we lived in a just world, Wii U should be 2nd place. PS4 is rightfully taking the top spot so i won't complain... much.

 

[Backfoggen]

Must be a bummer for MS but it keeps them active. If XB1 had PS4 sales there's no way we'd see stuff like the firmware updates and all the 180s.

 

[benny_a]

Guys is it safe to buy an Xbone? Yall are scaring me

Of course it's safe to buy one. Why wouldn't it?

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

Guys is it safe to buy an Xbone? Yall are scaring me

What?

 

[onQ123]

Destiny selling a lot more on Xbox One.
Despite the double digit millions Sony invested in the title.

Just throwing that stat out there for fun.
Console hardware sales don't always tell the full story for the industry as a whole.

Spoiler

Just talking about US for now

No it's not you didn't include the bundles.

 

[bananafactory]

Guys is it safe to buy an Xbone? Yall are scaring me

I have one and it's a perfectly competent gaming system.

 

[Wickerbasket]

Just a point.

You do realise that John Harker has access to NPD data right? And probably a bit more besides.

He probably knows what he is talking about.

He knows more than Activision?

Shit, he better inform them.

 

[WhatsintheBox]

Damn...

well, this graph kind of says it all.

 

[Servbot24]

This is awesome

So many folks fell for it.

Pretty sure trolling is not awesome or encouraged on GAF.

 

[illmatic22]

lmao

 

[Jomjom]

This doesn't tell a whole story even if it's true which I don't think it is. That could be because X1 owners feel like they have less quality things to choose from, for example. Not saying that's the case, but this seems like a long term partnership. PS can't wipe away the MS/Bungie chemistry in one day. But certainly Destiny has done better on PS4 than it would have done without the partnership.

Nah it doesn't really make any sense. I don't get his caveat of console bundle copies of Destiny were sold to the publisher (i think he meant console holder?) and not to the consumer. Yet free copies that are obviously subsidized by MS are somehow purchased by the consumer. HUH?!

But hey maybe I'm not seeing it from the right "perspective" or I'm not having enough "fun" from whatever he's tossing out there.

 

[krypt0nian]

Do you guys not realize that he's trolling PS4 fanboy's?

They were bragging about Madden selling more on the PS4 in the August NPD thread while disregarding the XB1 Madden bundle:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=893306

Now these same exact people are factoring in the Destiny bundle.

If Bish sees this you are fucked.