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[SenjutsuSage]

Thus rendering your comparison completely pointless and only useable for console warring and system shilling.

Nope, it's very relevant for playing AAA games and having a superior price point while being able to run games better + having game pass.

It's the price for this thing that makes it absurd for me considering what it's packing for hardware.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

it's very relevant

 

[Kazza]

Why are people saying this looks uncomfortable? Compared to the flat Switch, the curved grip alone will make it much more pleasant to play:

Many people have to buy the Hori controller just to make the Switch bearable:

 

[SenjutsuSage]

The portability is literally the selling point of this thing.

Are Microsoft providing us with an option to play gamepass games natively on a portable device rather than being forced to use a latency ridden Xcloud? Didn't think so.

The portability factor isn't worth that price for the hardware it's packing. Not in my view.

 

[Twinblade]

Which Beta? They have had about a million


Thousands of games and running windows. You know how many times I have wanted to play games on my 75 inch tv but there was no way I was going to move my rig? I can't cant even count them all. This device resolves that issue.

It was last year... A closed beta before released.

 

[Kazza]

With both Xbox games and PS4/5 exclusives, this will seem like a Vita 2 and a handheld Xbox at the same time (plus a Switch Pro, if you include Yuzo emulation). Impressive.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

 

[Velcro Fly]

I think this thing has a lot of potential

I've been a handheld gamer all my life so I'm not scared of this thing being big. I got big hands.

And I have long ago seen the value in "yeah, but handheld" so I am definitely in part the target audience for this.

 

[evanft]

Looking forward to reviews/benchmarks. My initial issues with it:

• It's much larger and heavier than the Switch.
• The button arrangement looks weird. Should have just gone with the more normal layout and utilized the touch screen for the mouse.
• The base model is a non-starter. MicroSD storage is an absolute no-go for real PC games. I'm wondering if the NVME storage is soldered or if it can be swapped.
• The overall shape is kind of shit. It's better than the Switch, but it really needs longer handles on the sides, like a lot of the aftermarket grips available for the Switch

 

[BadBurger]

Switch has 1tf of performance.... but a shitton of optimization.
This will be running windows games most likely emulated on linux... and I cannot get over 16:10 aspect ratio and no oled

The Switch only attains about 500 GFLOPS docked, around 400 undocked (correct me if I'm wrong someone), using the now aging X1. This 1.6 TFLOPS on a newer ZEN 2 + RDNA 2 APU with a good CPU in it. They're in completely different leagues, really.

 

[Speedwagon]

Looking forward to reviews/benchmarks. My initial issues with it:

• It's much larger and heavier than the Switch.
• The button arrangement looks weird. Should have just gone with the more normal layout and utilized the touch screen for the mouse.
• The base model is a non-starter. MicroSD storage is an absolute no-go for real PC games. I'm wondering if the NVME storage is soldered or if it can be swapped.
• The overall shape is kind of shit. It's better than the Switch, but it really needs longer handles on the sides, like a lot of the aftermarket grips available for the Switch

Yeah I really wish they'd put at least 128GB eMMC in the base model just so it could fit at least 1 heavy AAA game on internal storage.

 

[FireFly]

Nope, it's very relevant for playing AAA games and having a superior price point while being able to run games better + having game pass.

It's the price for this thing that makes it absurd for me considering what it's packing for hardware.

The target audience for this device are people who already have a gaming PC and Steam collection.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Valve or HTC making that? I know their first vr set was HTC (miss their phones) but haven't kept up to date

Developed and manufactured by Valve

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[Zannegan]

The Switch successor probably won't even be as powerful as this

Honestly? Entirely possible, especially if it comes in the next year or so. Here's hoping they eke out a little more than a 4-5x jump if they want it to be a true successor, but I won't hold my breath.

I do hope it's not this chunky at least, not that I mind it on the SteamDeck.

 

[reksveks]

Developed and manufactured by Valve

Cheers, yeah. The vr headset have been surprisingly good.

I don't know how many of these they are going to be able to produce but that's another question.

 

[JORMBO]

It looks neat. I would have to see more regarding the battery life. I'm also wondering how well it will keep up with things. Games aren't made strictly for this thing so I wonder if it will struggle with newer stuff soon.

I think I'm going to keep an eye on this thing and use more of a wait and see approach.

 

[Sinfulgore]

This looks pretty bad to me. 64gb space on the base model is way too low. I know you can use SD cards for additional storage but SD cards are expensive. You can get a 2tb SSD drive for the price of a 1TB SD card. The design looks horrible like a Sega Game gear. Terrible button placement and huge bezels like the switch. I guess this could be good if you wanted to play PC-only indie games on the go but is there an audience for that? I feel like just spending a bit more and buying a gaming laptop would be a much better value.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Why are game companies so bad at names? Steam Deck, Xbox series x…

 

[Sleepwalker]

Now I'm pissed I spent $1500 on a gaming laptop a couple months ago lol.

 

[THE DUCK]

The fact that this isn't running on just normal windows is a huge plus. It's decently powerfull, has realll full size controlls, and is decently priced, and doubles as a pc. This makes Nintendo look silly for upgrading the switch properly, but alas I fear it won't matter, valve won't be able to make enough for it to matter.

 

[killatopak]

Now I'm pissed I spent $1500 on a gaming laptop a couple months ago lol.

Still useful for games that require MKB.

 

[Loope]

This looks pretty bad to me. 64gb space on the base model is way too low. I know you can use SD cards for additional storage but SD cards are expensive. You can get a 2tb SSD drive for the price of a 1TB SD card. The design looks horrible like a Sega Game gear. Terrible button placement and huge bezels like the switch. I guess this could be good if you wanted to play PC-only indie games on the go but is there an audience for that? I feel like just spending a bit more and buying a gaming laptop would be a much better value.

HEY, why are you talking shit about Game Gear. Game Gear was life. You take that back.

OT:

 

[Fahdis]

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY CHEAP OUT ON THE HDMI PORT? GIVE ME 2.1 FOR THE DOCK!

Anyone find alternatives to this?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BX49V5V/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[Muddy]

Those button placements look worse than the Wii U gamepad.

 

[bender]

Why are people saying this looks uncomfortable? Compared to the flat Switch, the curved grip alone will make it much more pleasant to play:

Many people have to buy the Hori controller just to make the Switch bearable:

I think it's the face button, d-pad placement. A lot of muscle memory will need to go by the wayside when using this but that's not really that big of a deal. More concerning was IGN's comments regarding the d-pad and feel of the triggers.

 

[akaFullmetal]

Looks neat, can't wait to see how it all comes out.

 

[Kamina]

So how much more powerful than the Switch is this?

 

[killatopak]

Dang. It even has paddles.

So how much more powerful than the Switch is this?

roughly five times more powerful docked.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Still useful for games that require MKB.

I'm actually really happy with my laptop and it will have better performance than this for sure. But I originally got it because I travel a lot and I wanted to play stuff not available on the switch. This by valve wouldve been amazing for my use case for less than half the money.

I would get it too but can't justify purchasing this so soon now, hope it doesn't become extinct software as I want one down the line for sure.

 

[celsowmbr]

How many games (in percentage) are not available for SteamOS?

 

[Fess]

Not only that, by default it's not even running Windows.

That's one thing that could hold it back tbh, Linux gaming might get a boost but it needs to be easy to swap to Windows for widespread appeal imo. Put up a Windows install link and instruction on the start up and link to a Gamepass sub page and watch this thing fly off the shelves

 

[Zannegan]

So how much more powerful than the Switch is this?

Just going by TF, the GPU is about a 4x jump, but that's across gens and AMD v Nvidia, so who knows? Benchmarks will tell the tale I guess.

EDIT: ~4x vs docked, not sure what the difference is on the go.

 

[bender]

Honestly? Entirely possible, especially if it comes in the next year or so. Here's hoping they eke out a little more than a 4-5x jump if they want it to be a true successor, but I won't hold my breath.

I do hope it's not this chunky at least, not that I mind it on the SteamDeck.

Switch still sells well, OLED is coming out in October which will probably help keep that momentum and global shortages make me think we will not see a successor until late 2023.

 

[M.W.]

Day One. Already have hundreds of games to play.

 

[Zannegan]

Switch still sells well, OLED is coming out in October which will probably help keep that momentum and global shortages make me think we will not see a successor until late 2023.

Makes sense. I'd even agree except that some third parties already seems to have dev kits. Then again, maybe those really are for a Switch Pro, and the real successor won't be out for years. Or maybe all that chatter was BS. *shrug*

I love to speculate, but I never put a hard prediction on Nintendo until they announce. They're too random.

 

[dukeoflegs]

The GabeGear looks pretty slick, but I feel like if I bought it I'd just use it for Emulating and maybe some casual games. I don't know if that's worth the price or not.

 

[Zannegan]

The GabeGear looks pretty slick, but I feel like if I bought it I'd just use it for Emulating and maybe some casual games. I don't know if that's worth the price or not.

That's perfect. Lol.

 

[bender]

Makes sense. I'd even agree except that some third parties already seems to have dev kits. Then again, maybe those really are for a Switch Pro, and the real successor won't be out for years. Or maybe all that chatter was BS. *shrug*

I love to speculate, but I never put a hard prediction on Nintendo until they announce. They're too random.

Considering how many "Insiders" were wrong recently, that's a smart stance.

Hopefully Nintendo sticks with NVidia for BC and hopefully DLSS. That could certainly help a portable console punch above its' weight class.

 

[CloudNull]

It was last year... A closed beta before released.

Game was postponed and was never released. They said they felt they had a good core of a game and postponed the game to add mid tier and end game content. It comes out end of next month. Even with that they have changed a lot and the game is a lot different. There is a open beta coming up which you get access to if you preorder. You could check it out and then refund the game if you don't like it.

 

[Vagswarm]

Now I'm pissed I spent $1500 on a gaming laptop a couple months ago lol.

I did the same thing, and couldn't be happier. This beast runs like a dream and I do everything on it. Steam isn't the only service available on PC.

Which laptop did you get?

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

I find it weird to read the reactions to this thing online with people yelling 'FINALLY I have a way to play my Steam games on a portable device!!!!11!!' as though laptops don't exist.

Sure. You can play your Steam library with a Switch-style handheld setup. I mean... great? I don't understand why you'd want to play PC games like that when you could just tip in more money and get a decent laptop, but I guess I'm not 21 years old.

 

[Fess]

GabeGear

 

[Raploz]

For anyone curious how well Windows games will run, you can check this website that lists the compatibility with games: https://www.protondb.com

 

[THE DUCK]

So LCD screens are cool again?

Is this your sad way of minimizing the specs that basically crap all over the switch overall? Or are you just sad it doesn't have an oled?

 

[Kagero]

Why are people saying this looks uncomfortable? Compared to the flat Switch, the curved grip alone will make it much more pleasant to play:

Many people have to buy the Hori controller just to make the Switch bearable:

I think the symmetrical sticks are triggering some people.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I was day one for the Steam Controller which in my 30 years of gaming was the biggest hardware disappointment I've ever experienced.

I knew I was gonna hate the steam controller the second I laid eyes on it, but a lot of people love that thing

 

[e&e]

This is your MS and Sony portable people!

 

[Fess]

I find it weird to read the reactions to this thing online with people yelling 'FINALLY I have a way to play my Steam games on a portable device!!!!11!!' as though laptops don't exist.

Sure. You can play your Steam library with a Switch-style handheld setup. I mean... great? I don't understand why you'd want to play PC games like that when you could just tip in more money and get a decent laptop, but I guess I'm not 21 years old.

Playing PC games on a laptop in the bed or even in a couch is almost impossible, imo, and I'm not 21 either, I'm 45

 

[bender]

This is your MS and Sony portable people!

No Hot Shots Golf, no sale.