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[kirblar]

This isn't any candidate, this is Hillary Clinton, the person who managed to crowd out every potential challenger against her in the 2016 primary before it even begun. How often has that happened in US politics history?

The Clintons retain a lot of allies in the DNC and congrsssional leadership, and donors. These are very old and very loyal friends, and Loyalty is the number 1 thing Hillary Clinton cares about.

How many serious criticisms have we heard towards Hillary and those allies from the Democratic party after Trump won? They couldn't even replace Pelosi.

I can't imagine Clinton 2020 will have the same dominating position over the party as she had in 2016 and is outlined in 'Shattered'. But those friends aren't going away, and there's an argument that she can make.

Popular 2-term presidents helping to clear the field of serious threats for a chosen successor is normal behavior. Bill Clinton did it, Reagan did it, Obama did it. W. did not, because he both deliberately did not have one and because he was political poison at the time.

Why would we replace an incredibly competent House leader who has taken the GOP to the cleaners twice on Continuing Resolutions since being re-elected to the position?

 

[Cat Party]

This guy needs help.

https://verrit.com/bernie-sanders-and-the-mainstream-media-helped-put-trump-in-the-white-house/


sorry, but it's verrit™fied

I think Daou needs to log off for a while.

Jesus Christ.

 

[master billings]

The Chapo Trap House episode about this was fuckin hilarious

 

[Bronx-Man]

I think Daou needs to log off for a while.

Can we make this a thread about Daou and his amazingly unhealthy obsession with Hillary Clinton? He's like that adoring fan from TESIV

What in the world is up this guy

 

[Generalpsyduck]

Lmao

 

[EmCeeGramr]

The Chapo Trap House episode about this was fuckin hilarious

maybe they should get more followers

Hmm... People say Hillary is "the past" but within 24 hours of her @Verrit endorsement, we have more followers than @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE.

LOL at how quickly they're triggered by what they dish out to Hillary supporters all the time. 😂

 

[Hierophant]

Also a good reminder that Daou served in a literal right wing death squad

https://theoutline.com/post/2207/the-strange-life-of-peter-daou

 

[nomis]

The Clintons retain a lot of allies in the DNC and congrsssional leadership, and donors. These are very old and very loyal friends, and Loyalty is the number 1 thing Hillary Clinton cares about.
.

Yeah, her and Donny *do* have that in common.

No wonder they both managed to surround themselves with mouth breathing morons like peter daou

 

[Brock Reiher]

I think Daou needs to log off for a while.

Can we make this a thread about Daou and his amazingly unhealthy obsession with Hillary Clinton? He's like that adoring fan from TESIV

"How I, and We All, were Defeated" #HillarysNextBookTitle

Amazing.

 

[ultratruman]

Popular 2-term presidents helping to clear the field of serious threats for a chosen successor is normal behavior. Bill Clinton did it, Reagan did it, Obama did it. W. did not, because he both deliberately did not have one and because he was political poison at the time.

Obama did not clear the field, he stayed out of endorsing any candidate until the primary was over. It's a matter of fact that Hillary used her connections to prevent any serious challenge from within the party.

Why would we replace an incredibly competent House leader who has taken the GOP to the cleaners twice on Continuing Resolutions since being re-elected to the position?

Because Pelosi is an absolute political liability (which even she acknowledges/brags about). She has been in place since 2007, overseeing the destruction of the Democratic party nationwide at all levels of elected office. The Democratic party brand is toxic and needs a new face, whether that's fair or not it's true.

 

[WedgeX]

What in the world is up this guy

There is already an article from an org (that I have never heard of before today, much like Verrit) discussing what's going on with this guy.

https://theoutline.com/post/2207/the-strange-life-of-peter-daou

Its a weird, and disjointed, read.

 

[nomis]

maybe they should get more followers

totally fair of him to equate the follower potential of some random socialist failsons with a multi campaign presidential candidate

 

[DogDude]

Yeah, her and Donny *do* have that in common.

No wonder they both managed to surround themselves with mouth breathing morons like peter daou

I'm pretty sure Trump was the exact opposite of that. He had no friends in the rnc and didn't take donors for a long time. Trump is known for not being loyal at all. Thats a big reason why he won. It was like the perfect storm...or hurricane.

 

[kirblar]

Obama did not clear the field, he stayed out of endorsing any candidate until the primary was over. It's a matter of fact that Hillary used her connections to prevent any serious challenge from within the party.

Because Pelosi is an absolute political liability (which even she acknowledges/brags about). She has been in place since 2007, overseeing the destruction of the Democratic party nationwide at all levels of elected office. The Democratic party brand is toxic and needs a new face, whether that's fair or not it's true.

Obama absolutely helped clear the field. "Khaleesi is coming to Westeros?", anyone? He advised Biden to stay out of the race. He was anything but neutral in public or private about who he was backing, even if he never "officially" endorsed anyone.

Anyone in Congressional leadership has rock-bottom approval ratings. Replacing the face will not help things. We don't have an obvious successor right now to replace her in the position (and it's definitely not Tim Ryan.)

 

[Brock Reiher]

I'm pretty sure Trump was the exact opposite of that. He had no friends in the rnc and didn't take donors for a long time. Trump is known for not being loyal at all. Thats a big reason why he won. It was like the perfect storm...or hurricane.

No, but all Trump wants is loyalty. I remember before the campaign he seemed to want the job because he thought people would be unquestionably loyal to him- he was mad that people who previously were nice to him to get at his money were insulting him once they found out he bragged about assaulting women.

Basically he wants to be surrounded by people who will continue to stand by him even after he repeatedly betrays them. So I guess he's in a good place now.

 

[jack_package_200]

between hillary's fucking book and verrit, it's been a big week for dunking on completely delusional clintonites

Verrit is dumb but there was some genuine truth in some of those excerpts in that book.

 

[nomis]

I'm pretty sure Trump was the exact opposite of that. He had no friends in the rnc and didn't take donors for a long time. Trump is known for not being loyal at all. Thats a big reason why he won. It was like the perfect storm...or hurricane.

sorry i did a bad quoting job, i was referring to the “only cares about loyalty” bit

 

[Ratros]

I think she really wants to find a new place in politics, but she hasnt being able to figure it out exactly where or how. There is 0 appetite for her to run again and she / DNC knows this.

This Verrit thing is Clinton just giving Peter Daou a cookie for being a good boy. An obsessed, hateful good boy.

I'm not sure if she really understands...

By the way, who can tell me how this website works? People read a news post with the code, visit the website and type the code in, then the website shows the content for the user to check if it matches the original post? That's the weirdest thing ever. Also, how does the website verify the news?

 

[ultratruman]

I actually can't handle reading that Daou guy's twitter, it's cringey as fuck to see the 'founder' of this website which they obviously had very high expectations for collapse this hard.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Obama did not clear the field, he stayed out of endorsing any candidate until the primary was over. It's a matter of fact that Hillary used her connections to prevent any serious challenge from within the party.

Obama very quietly encouraged his VP to not run. Even Obama believed that Hillary had the best chance of carrying his legacy on and by the end of 2015 Obama was certain that Biden would not be electable as President. This rather small but ultimately fateful tale within the larger jockeying for position in the run-up to the 2016 Democratic Presidential primaries is told in Shattered but will most certainly be ignored in whatever memoirs Obama will care to write or Hillary's upcoming book "It's Everyone's Fault But Mine" "What Happened".

 

[Brock Reiher]

I'm not sure if she really understands...

By the way, who can tell me how this website works? People read a news post with the code, visit the website and type the code in, then the website shows the content for the user to check if it matches the original post? That's the weirdest thing ever. Also, how does the website verify the news?

???
It's called verrit. That's not enough?

 

[Intheflorsh]

Also a good reminder that Daou served in a literal right wing death squad

https://theoutline.com/post/2207/the-strange-life-of-peter-daou

Wow. Not exactly great company to keep, Hillary.

 

[master billings]

maybe they should get more followers

Lol

Change the name to Donny and this'll be indistinguishable from any other right wingers twitter rants

 

[TheOMan]

I was eating and choked on my food.


I'm calling my lawyer asap, Cyan.

 

[jack_package_200]

And Peter Daou is a dumbshit.

Hillary should not have said anything.

 

[Bronx-Man]

maybe they should get more followers

LOL at how quickly they're triggered by what they dish out to Hillary supporters all the time. 😂

This dude keeps embarrassing himself.

 

[Hierophant]

Wow. Not exactly great company to keep, Hillary.

I also love how he puts Kerry 04 and Clinton 08 in his bio as if that doesn't prove that he's just an enormous loser who keeps failing upwards

 

[Unknown Soldier]

That thread title change is clever, mods.

 

[atr0cious]

by the way, HOW are ANY of us even breathing the possibility of her running again?!?? you run against pussy grabber in chief, most unpopular candidate in history and still grasp defeat from the clutches of victory, i don’t care if you won the popular vote, it was a repudiation by the public of your worldview. relegate yourself to philanthropy instead of your hubristic ambition of being the leader of the free world, you can afford to part with your money, and you aren’t a leader.

Elections aren't one on one basketball games. People have to vote for her. That they decided "more of the same" progressive policies wasn't good enough is confirmation the country wanted to wallow in white supremacy and nothing more. This weird narrative that she should some how be embarrassed people would rather vote for open hate over speculative emails needs to die. America has always been this way, it just took a black man and threat of a woman to bring it back to the forefront.

I don't see the Democrats winning for a bit, but not because of her running.

 

[Chmpocalypse]

So liberal Brietbart?

I mean, except for the blatant lies, the conspiracy theories, the racism, the Nazis...

Sure. Exactly the same. You totally nailed it.

*Eyeroll*

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The Washington Post is busy spitting fire on this subject.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...media-platform-thats-looking-worse-and-worse/

All Verrit is, at its core, is what Daou has called a “sanctuary.” Daou has built a bubble for people who were already basically living in one. His is just harder to pop. Of course, a partisan platform that openly declares itself a shill for a particular politician and sticks to stringent fact-checking standards is better than one that spews falsehoods while feigning objectivity. But Verrit is the last thing we needed in a media market already plagued by consumers’ tendency to seek out sources that tell them what they want to hear and outlets’ willingness to give them exactly what they’re looking for.

Democrats need to figure out how to stop losing. That’s going to require a rethinking of party politics as usual; the last thing the situation demands is a site designed to validate people’s instinct to keep thinking the same way they always have. It’s also going to require communication along the left side of the spectrum, but that’s exactly what Verrit is designed to “protect” Clinton voters from.

As Daou himself has revealed, the site is just as much about rehashing old debates as confronting new threats. Many of the “anti-Hillary” haters Daou deplores (and many of those mocking the site most mercilessly) are Bernie Sanders supporters. What other reason for a Verrit post proclaiming that “Sanders and the Mainstream Media Helped Put Trump in the White House”? Or Daou’s triumphant tweet Wednesday boasting that Clinton’s endorsement had won the start-up more Twitter followers than, wait for it, popular leftist podcast Chapo Trap House?

Verrit has taken all the worst parts of today’s liberalism and turned them into a website. It is a safe space for middle-of-the-road Democrats, seeking to shelter them from conversations that would help far more than they hurt, based not on any actual issue of identity but instead on their preference for a candidate who was defeated 10 months ago. It’s only going to help them lose again.

 

[nynt9]

I mean, except for the blatant lies, the conspiracy theories, the racism, the Nazis...

Sure. Exactly the same. You totally nailed it.

*Eyeroll*

I mean, founded by a man who was in a squad that committed war crimes against muslims, pushes some fake theory about Bernie with no citations or data, and has a bunch of other articles whose citations are just tweets or youtube videos or long ass studies taken out of context...

Sure, it's not as bad as Breitbart, but still not a good look...

 

[jack_package_200]

The Washington Post is busy spitting fire on this subject.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...media-platform-thats-looking-worse-and-worse/

Don't disagree. There are enough bubbles in the internet blogosphere (I might go whip myself later for using that word) and that this is more of the same crap. Whether it be facebook meme groups, various subreddits, youtubers, and "news" sources like Drudge, Brietbart, TYT, and now Verrit that exist not inform or provide facts about events in the world but to feed confirmation biases.

Its all trash.

 

[Iksenpets]

What if Hillary is, in her infinite wisdom, unifying the Democratic Party, by being so awful between backing this weird guy and his weird site and writing her weird book that even her supporters will turn on her, thus ending months of Hillary-supporter vs. Bernie-supporter in-fighting in the party as the pro-Hillary side all decide that she's bad now.

(I say this as someone who supported Hillary all the way in the primary and general election. Jesus, this is a really sad display from her)

 

[shawnbuddy]

She's not going away. Hillary is running again in 2020 dawgs. The existence of this seals it.

I know it.

You know it.

And Bernie knows it.

Just accept it.

 

[Brock Reiher]

What if Hillary is, in her infinite wisdom, unifying the Democratic Party, by being so awful between backing this weird guy and his weird site and writing her weird book that even her supporters will turn on her, thus ending months of Hillary-supporter vs. Bernie-supporter in-fighting in the party as the pro-Hillary side all decide that she's bad now.

(I say this as someone who supported Hillary all the way in the primary and general election. Jesus, this is a really sad display from her)

And then she reveals her master plan and announces her candidacy for 2020 as the woman who united the Democratic Party.

 

[Tylercrat]

Um... I'll stick to the New York Times and Washington Post. I don't know what that thing is.

 

[Cow Mengde]

Getting funding is easier when you're apart of the Clinton machine and have a professional history of failing up

Poligaf should start a news site, then.

 

[VendettaRed07]

She will not run again.

If she did, she would flatline worse than JEB

 

[pigeon]

Poligaf should start a news site, then.

We fail sideways.

 

[jack_package_200]

She will not run again.

If she did, she would flatline worse than JEB

She would probably perform as well as Tulsi Gabbard or Corey Booker would in a democratic primary.

Spoiler

Very poorly

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

This is legitimately fucking hilarious.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Poligaf should start a news site, then.

bothsides.com

 

[Koomaster]

What if Hillary is, in her infinite wisdom, unifying the Democratic Party, by being so awful between backing this weird guy and his weird site and writing her weird book that even her supporters will turn on her, thus ending months of Hillary-supporter vs. Bernie-supporter in-fighting in the party as the pro-Hillary side all decide that she's bad now.

(I say this as someone who supported Hillary all the way in the primary and general election. Jesus, this is a really sad display from her)

Nothing she has done is weird or bad and if people feel that way it will all be forgotten by 2020.

Again, I dare America to pull the trigger on Trump again. I think if another election was held tomorrow Trump v. Hillary 100% of Sanders' supporters and people who stayed home this last time would jump out of their chairs to vote for Hillary. Everyone is sick of Trump and 4 years of him will have people begging on their knees for Hillary to save them in 2020.

All you Hillary haters please tell me you're gonna stay home or vote 3rd party or some other such nonsense in this match-up. I want to hear the justification.

 

[WedgeX]

The Washington Post is busy spitting fire on this subject.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...media-platform-thats-looking-worse-and-worse/

The Washington Post proving its worth so very much this year.

 

[And_Gignac]

Nothing she has done is weird or bad and if people feel that way it will all be forgotten by 2020.

Again, I dare America to pull the trigger on Trump again. I think if another election was held tomorrow Trump v. Hillary 100% of Sanders' supporters and people who stayed home this last time would jump out of their chairs to vote for Hillary. Everyone is sick of Trump and 4 years of him will have people begging on their knees for Hillary to save them in 2020.

All you Hillary haters please tell me you're gonna stay home or vote 3rd party or some other such nonsense in this match-up. I want to hear the justification.

Hillary is not running in 2020. I would LOVE her to do so, honestly, but I dont think she is a delusional person.

And in the remote case that she did, she will end up 7th in Iowa.

bothsides.com

end them!

 

[televator]

Authentication codes for information? Holy shit, we are really through the looking glass here.

Sounds like some kind of ministry deciding truths. Creepy and funny at the same time.

Clinton 2020: This time it really is her turn
Clinton 2024: I'm not stopping till you elect me or I die

I'm not just with her anymore. Now I am her. *Goes through a horrible ware-Clinton body morph*

 

[dead souls]

The Chapo Trap House episode about this was fuckin hilarious

Indeed.

This is legitimately fucking hilarious.

Yep. Daou is a total clown and this shit is so lame. I vote for the democratic candidate in every election, but it is impossible to overstate how much I fucking hate the party.

 

[Inuhanyou]

wasnt' this the one formed by that clinton staffer who basically tried to deflect all blame from clinton's role in the election. Her endorsing it just makes it more annoying. Safe spaces from your political opponents

 

[Pixieking]

I also don't think its a good idea to produce media for a specific group. Preaching to the choir is not constructive.

Nah, it's really effective in this day and age. Gives the fanatics the marching orders and talking points they'll use to sway the moderates and undecideds during inane office chatter and Facebook arguments.

This is it... I mean, Verrit is just an inane, dumb as a plank idea that sounds like some college stoner's idea of a DotCom company in late '90s America.

But the idea of having a Left-wing propaganda machine with the veneer of neutrality and "truth" to it is actually a good one. The vast majority of Trump's actions and tweets come from Fox News, and because they come from Fox News, Fox News sells them to the public, who then sell them to their co-workers, relatives, folk down at the church bake sale, etc.

A Left-wing version of Fox would be bad from the perspective of many liberals, since unbiased news goes pretty-much hand-in-hand with liberal ideals. But it's been needed to rebutt Right-wing skewed news and narratives for a long time now - think of how much could've been done if there were a media platform arguing for Merrick Garland to be confirmed as a SCOTUS, not just against the idea. Or what about something that could've given easy sound-bites to Hillary's supporters to deflect Banghazi/Emails/Health concerns?

But, yeah, this ain't it.

Edit: Also, Hillary isn't running in 2020, for the love of God. But it's foolish to ignore or mock her supporters. It doesn't nothing for anyone.