SniperHunter
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lol, looks like he is on the phone real time like jack bauer
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VGleaks: Orbis Unveiled! [Updated]
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H_Prestige
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Because I'm sure SE has a real interest in selling Sony ps4 consoles.
Versus will be on ps3. Assuming it ever gets made.
And you call yourself the Amiga brotherhood? Hang your coat up in shame
Durango would be the Amiga, with the blitter and DMA engines. Orbis would be the ST with slightly better overall CPU power due to the CUs
Look at the endgame. Amiga's custom chips and multitasking OS lead the industry at the time. I do know what I'm talking about. I worked for Commodore Amiga 86-91.
SniperHunter
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electroshockwave
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My sources are laughing at all of you and tell me that Versus XIII is exclusive to the Ouya.
Isn't SSHD sort of doing 120fps 720p for the 3D mode?
Do you peeps think Orbis/Durango will support 120fps? Nevermind jokes about how devs can barely make games run at 30fps.I mean for downloadable titles, or maybe uprezzed ports. Something like Super Stardust would be eyegasmic in that framerate.
Isn't SSHD sort of doing 120fps 720p for the 3D mode?
90TilInfinity
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SSM's new IP appears to be open-world:
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/28/sony-santa-monica-hiring-devs-with-open-world-and-shooter-experi/
Really? Maybe I missed something but that's the first I'm reading of bandwidth being that close. Can someone verify?
It's not really the same thing.
Then you participated in the legend of the greatest gaming machine of all time. *bows*
Yes, rops and textures units are 4x of those numbers [32 rops, 72 texure units, 56Gigatexels/s [just above 7850]].
14 CU's are ordinary and governed by traditional rendering pipeline. Additional 4 are specialized and can be accessed directly by the developers for optimized GPGPU work or general rendering [still not clear if their rendering capabilities are gimped].
BruceLeeRoy
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You know all this pie in the sky stuff got me wondering about what would shock me the most. Can you guys imagine if Sony somehow secretly bought Crash Bandicoot and were working on a all new open world platformer with him.
I would probably pass out.
I would probably pass out.
Felix Lighter
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Are there many TVs that accept a 120Hz signal?
THE:MILKMAN
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Do you peeps think Orbis/Durango will support 120fps? Nevermind jokes about how devs can barely make games run at 30fps.
I don't see why not. And doesn't Super Stardust effectively run at 720P/120 in 2D?
twinturbo2
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Why mess with perfection?
SniperHunter
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Harlequin is still my favourite game of all time.
Do you peeps think Orbis/Durango will support 120fps? Nevermind jokes about how devs can barely make games run at 30fps.
No doubt that they will be able to, but at lower res. I'm still thinking the launch titles will be 30fps at 1080p for each system then we'll see most things move to 60fps as the generation progresses. No doubt these are planned to have a 10 year life cycle again so I'm not too worried about how performance is on games in the first 6 months. It's how the Wii U is right now. It's on a grace period while they continue to learn what the system can do, post launch +6 months is when I think developers have had enough time to start exploiting certain capabilities.
Kazuma Kiryu
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thuway's contacts are always online, 24/7. he writes up a pm here in neogaf and they promptly respond.
Didn't that happen with Fox Engine and Ground Zeroes? Making the game while building/optimizing the engine?
SneakyStephan
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Are you done being obnoxious yet? Act like an adult instead of a child.
SniperHunter
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where are the sony ninjas? they need to shut him down
Do you peeps think Orbis/Durango will support 120fps? Nevermind jokes about how devs can barely make games run at 30fps.
120fps is a waste at this point, most tv sets don't support 120hz and the majority can't probably tell the difference between constant 60fps and 120fps anyway.
90TilInfinity
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Death Dealer
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Someone on B3D said those 4 CU could be specially optimized for certain non-graphics work. And if that is the case, it would explain why they're "not as good" for graphics work, as the regular CUs in the GPU. But it could just be due to them not be under the "scheduler", so devs have to "handhold" those CUs more if they want to use them for rendering, and they are actually the same as the 14 in the GPU. I guess nobody really know yet.
THE:MILKMAN
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Damn, them job posting make me think of Eight Days.
But isn't that closer to where MS are right now?
Anyway, it was a sarky post and the Amiga was better anyway, even if I did covet my friends FA-18 interceptor for being 7% faster..
Its not being used as the main engine, just for handling lighting.
Im not following the development of the Fox Engine so I really cant answer that. :/
Reread his original post.
Ah yes,I am very excited to see what they are working on.
SniperHunter
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thats what i said.....but this news is old. nomura is a graphics whore, i am betting its an orbis/durango game now
For years we heard about "Project Ogre" and "Fox Engine". Ground Zeroes was pure surprise [Kojima is adamant that GZ is not Project Ogre].
Kazuma Kiryu
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brace yourself because it's coming. all signs point for it at least.
les papillons sexuels
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just check the first page of this thread and the first page of the durango thread.
I think people are going the wrong way about figuring out how PS4 can emulate the PS3.
don't look at it as can the PS4 emulate the PS3 hardware, but look at it as can the PS4 make the PS3 software emulate PS4 software?
& my thinking is yes.
in my head if the PS4 can see the PS3 software as PS4 software the Jaguar cores will be good enough for the PPU codes , the 4 CU's should have enough compute power to run the codes that used to be handled by the SPE's & the 1.4TFLOPS of the GPU power will make lite work of running the graphical tasks that was done on RSX.
Ok, but how would that point to Versus being now a next gen game? Just because part of the luminous engine was added to the main one doesnt really mean much imo. Adding lighting is far from being the same to changing everything to something new. It would probably be a lot harder.
What's their expertise in open world games?
AstroNut325
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It's probably the same people who thought the Vita was going to be $400 - $500 lol. They're overestimating by a lot.
It will be $399. Count on it.
It's a fantasy RPG isn't it? Hard to get excited over someone with 0 RPG experience making one.
It will be $350 IMO, maybe even less.
SniperHunter
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see what rare did with kameo and pdz...both were xbox games originally....they wont have to change everything. just add dx11 shaders, increase resolution and frame rate
MaulerX
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The vgleaks Durango leak said: http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-durango-unveiled-2/
"from the GPUs perspective the bandwidths of system memory and ESRAM are parallel providing combined peak bandwidth of 170 GB/sec"
Then, Eurogamer commented on the vgleaks Durango leak and said: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-next-gen-xbox-specs-leak
"In the case of Durango, the CPU is married up with 8GB of DDR3 memory, working in concert with 32MB of what is dubbed "ESRAM" - fast work RAM connected directly to the GPU. The two pools of memory operate in parallel, and while we haven't confirmed overall bandwidth, the leak's 170GB/s throughput certainly seems plausible."
And if I'm not mistaken someone on B3D (sorry no link) also said it's plausible. That none of those sites (major source of our leaks) are disputing this is telling. We definitely need more detailed info on Durango.
That really doesn't seem to make sense. You just add the numbers up ignoring the fact that we're talking about 32 megs? You sure about that?
amstradcpc
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About the special GPGPU CUs,I think a "minor boost" could mean it performs a little better over a normal CUs graphics performance thanks to the extra ALU.