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Vinyl - HBO on the 1970s music business in NY [update: Canceled by HBO]
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I've never seen a tag so appropriate before
No offense, but it's hard to take your opinions on television seriously with that tag. What are your favorite shows currently airing?
wanderingprostheyltite
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lol that tag
Honestly might be one of the blandest things I've seen Scorsese do.
RatskyWatsky
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The acting was strong (with Cannavale and Juno Temple being the standouts) and the set/costume design superb, but as a whole I feel like it came up short. It showed promise though, and I'm looking forward to seeing how the rest of the season shapes up.
I wasn't expecting it either, although I guess we both should have, considering that murder plots are always forced into these prestige cable dramas.
Me too. There was quite a bit of bloat that made the episode run far longer than it should have.
I wasn't expecting it either, although I guess we both should have, considering that murder plots are always forced into these prestige cable dramas.
Me too. There was quite a bit of bloat that made the episode run far longer than it should have.
SprachBrooks
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Damn, HBO really fell off with their original programming. Still riding that GoT gravy train I see.
RatskyWatsky
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I'll allow them their cliches since this was just the pilot, but hopefully they'll be able to actually craft them into something interesting before too long.
Steelyuhas
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I think I read in an interview that it became a two hour episode in editing, so it seems like no one was willing to tell Marty to cut it down.
Lactose_Intolerant
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I thought everything outside of the office wasn't very good.
I think what it really just came down to is that I miss Mad Men and the office somewhat reminded me of it.
I think what it really just came down to is that I miss Mad Men and the office somewhat reminded me of it.
Crimson Clown
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That was really good. The two hours flew by.
Also, Boardwalk Empire was regularly outstanding and is easily among HBO's finest.
Also, Boardwalk Empire was regularly outstanding and is easily among HBO's finest.
dead souls
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Finest what? Shows set during prohibition?
RatskyWatsky
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brianjones
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damn
a fox show getting rec'd over HBO.. dark times
haha
this show had promise but it's sounding like a misfire
a fox show getting rec'd over HBO.. dark times
haha
this show had promise but it's sounding like a misfire
PhoncipleBone
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Glad I am not the only one that felt that way. I will give it another episode or two before abandoning though, but I didn't really enjoy the first episode.
Easily? Not sure about that.
If we narrow it down to dramas post Oz(When HBO really began it's original programming era) I would say Boardwalk is at best somewhere in the middle and at worse closer to the bottom.
...If we include miniseries things get even rockier for Boardwalk. Not to say Boardwalk was bad but just that HBO's coffers are so flush with great TV that a show that was just solid with some ups and downs ends up way down the ladder.
It may be some of the best TV you have seen but I was responding to someone calling it "easily amongst HBO's finest."
Thats a very high bar when a channel like HBO has quite a number of dramas and miniseries that are widely held as some of the best TV of all time.
...Anyways, this is the Vinyl thread. I shouldn't of gotten off track. Was fairly disappointed but I will give it 6 or so episodes before I write it off.
I thought it was fine. I was actually expecting to not like it, since some of the reviews made it sound like the show was closer to my "it's trying too hard" fears, but it didn't skirt too far into that direction.
That said, I feel like we've reached the tipping point of TV anti-hero leads now. It's not just that Richie is kind of an unlikeable prick, but there's just not a lot of reason to care about whether he builds up his label again or not. I know it's just the pilot, but the first two hours of a show should be able to draw some kind of empathy around its main character, and I'm not feeling it yet.
eh, if I had to do a top 10 HBO list, Boardwalk would probably hit #9 or 10 for me.
That said, I feel like we've reached the tipping point of TV anti-hero leads now. It's not just that Richie is kind of an unlikeable prick, but there's just not a lot of reason to care about whether he builds up his label again or not. I know it's just the pilot, but the first two hours of a show should be able to draw some kind of empathy around its main character, and I'm not feeling it yet.
eh, if I had to do a top 10 HBO list, Boardwalk would probably hit #9 or 10 for me.
Since OZ they have had a few less then 20 hour long dramas. So that would be right around the middle.
Throw in miniseries and the list grows but so does the competition.
gnarlyxcharlie
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I haven't enjoyed a premiere this much in a long time. Atmosphere was fantastic except for the weird Robert plant role.
I feel that it just went a little long for me, but honestly by the end I was wrapped up right into it again. I've high expectations, and being someone who's overly fascinated with the 1970s scene from the music down to the fashion, despite being a millenial, I really dig the culture, the atmosphere, the social struggles of the time.
I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the season. I'm curious to see what other big name acts from the 70s they might pull up or reference in the coming weeks/seasons.
I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the season. I'm curious to see what other big name acts from the 70s they might pull up or reference in the coming weeks/seasons.
DataStream
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Amazing cinematography, set design, acting, directing, and costuming.
Meandering cliche plot not so much. Will give it a solid chance but this should push every one of my buttons given the content and era; I didn't really give a shit about anything or anyone.
Meandering cliche plot not so much. Will give it a solid chance but this should push every one of my buttons given the content and era; I didn't really give a shit about anything or anyone.
Werewolf Jones
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Talk about literally bringing down the house. Jesus Christ.
I too feel it's not nearly as strong as it should be for a solid first impression, things happened but none of it seemed to grip me strongly. I'd have prefered a tighter focused sixty minutes than the lax one twenty we got here.
I too feel it's not nearly as strong as it should be for a solid first impression, things happened but none of it seemed to grip me strongly. I'd have prefered a tighter focused sixty minutes than the lax one twenty we got here.
The Driver
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Haven't watched it yet, but reading the description, it kinda sounds like Mad Men TBH.
This has Ray Romano tho so I gotta watch!
This has Ray Romano tho so I gotta watch!
dead souls
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Well, I guess I know why this thread is moving pretty slowly. This fucking bombed. 764,000 viewers .25 demo.
John Oliver out rated it.
John Oliver out rated it.
Jesus Christ, really? Fuck, that's awful. There's no reason to expect HBO might can this early, right? I'm honestly about to get HBO now just for Vinyl and GoT right through to June.
Cornballer
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We'll see all of S1. My guess is that they'll renew given the sizeable investment and their lack of other dramas in their lineup. They'll probably hand wave the ratings based on the L+3, L+7, L+??? numbers.
dead souls
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Yeah, even with how bad this did I assume HBO will give it a season two. If they don't it will be shocking.
Steelyuhas
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Yeah, they give a second season to just about anything that makes it to air.
Well I do know HBO has said they don't value first run ratings much anymore, after learning the flaw in valuing that metric too highly with Deadwood and Rome, still, that is pretty bad.
If the reviews don't improve I too think 2-3 seasons might be all they get.
chris121580
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Ok, I'm not lying here...I had no idea that was him! Phenomenal performance!
theignoramus
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Very well acted and well shot. Is it safe to assume Lester Grimes vocal chords are permanently fucked after that beatdown?
Olivia Wilde is a very beautiful woman.
Olivia Wilde is a very beautiful woman.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Good lord.
It would be a huge shock if HBO canned the show. As others here have said, it would be highly unlikely for a variety of reasons.
Well in that case...maybe #7 or 8.
Yup. You can hear the pop in his neck that I think was supposed to tell you that.
Also, the preview showed him talking really raspy.
I mean it kinda makes some sense. Asking people to dedicate 2 hours to a brand new show on Valentine's Day when there's big competing shows that are hyped at nearly the same time isn't the smartest thing.
theignoramus
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If Cinemax could keep the Knick going at 250k viewers per episode, I dont see why its big bro HBO cant keep a show running with 3 times that number.
On another note, I loved that reference to the beginning of Goodfellas with that camera view from the trunk. Matter of fact, I recognize some of the actors from the Goodfellas in this show.
On another note, I loved that reference to the beginning of Goodfellas with that camera view from the trunk. Matter of fact, I recognize some of the actors from the Goodfellas in this show.
ilikesanta
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This show is a disappointment. I'm only a little more then an hour in and it's a slog. I'll try to finish the pilot later and give the 2nd episode a go, but man this is pretty boring so far.
Don't agree with you on Boardwalk but the latter comment is something I was definitely feeling. I felt like I had baby boomers in my ear the entire time telling me music will never be this good again. Ugh.
I hardly recognised him!
With Scorcese heading this up I thought there was great potential. But I'm really dissapointed after
he walked away from a building falling in on him because a band rocked so hard
dead souls
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Someone in the comments on the Vulture article about the ratings said something that sums up the show perfectly: You get the sense that no one under 60 had any input on the production.
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