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[Suairyu]

Been with MPC+CCCP for a while now, but always keep VLC around as a last resort. Despite its faults, it's a fantastic all-round player.

Blu ray support makes me very happy.

Looking forward to giving this a whirl and seeing if it has reclaimed its throne with this new ground-up re-write. No software remains "the king" forever. It was true of VLC, it will be true of MPC.

Competition is a fantastic thing.

 

[whatsinaname]

Skipping around in a video works fine in both MPC (which I also have installed on my Windows computer) and VLC. File skipping is dependent largely on keyframing in the video file itself. I'm not really sure how I could test it, but I've certainly never perceived any trouble skipping around in VLC.

I will have to agree with Envelope here. I use keyboard short cuts for file skipping. Up arrow for jumping 20 seconds, right for jumping 5 seconds. I have both VLC and MPC-HC using the same key mapping. I just find that jumping around is much smoother in MPC-HC than in VLC for the same file.

 

[Xelinis]

Now here's the real question from me: will it have IVTC support? I want to watch my Samurai Jack DVDs on my Mac in a properly deinterlaced form.

 

[NaM]

The desktop version improved a lot this last couple of years but I still prefer MPC-HC. What I'm really waiting for is the android version, the last build I tried is a couple of weeks old and completely broken, but even so, it crushes every other media player for android right now.

 

[questionmark]

Been using GOM player lately, love how it loads subtitles automatically. VLC is my backup player though.

 

[Chavelo]

I always love threads like these.

"Oh, hey. I use VLC!"
"Me too! "
"Teh fuck?"
"You noobs!"
"Why?"
"Because! Artifacts! Lazyness! MPCCCCC"
"But, I...."
"You suck!"

 

[RevDM]

Sigh, kids.

I've already done that and it doesn't work. Some things work but then I've experienced VLC just freezing in full-screen mode, weird artifacts when the game is running, the image suddenly not aligning with the monitor, tons of pixels at times, as shown above and the list goes on.

Sorry if I'm sounding noob, but why would you play video games and watch movies at the same time?

 

[Patrick Bateman]

 

[giga]

I tried 2.0 RC1. Found it to be buggy and in need of polish.

- The volume resets to 0 after every restart. I tried setting the default volume in the prefs but it just won't stick.
- When I open a new video through Finder, Spotlight, or anywhere else, it opens up the library interface first and then starts the video. Jarring. I shouldn't be seeing that window at all.
- Quicktime X and Plex still seems to be the only ones that uses the least amount of cpu when playing high bitrate videos. Tried out a 4mbit video and QTX was the only one that could play it with only 10-15% cpu while QT7, MplayerX, and VLC all hovered around a constant 30%. Not sure what's keeping these guys from implementing full hardware acceleration.
- They're still not using a native interface. Reminds me of Firefox.

Native

Fake

My players of choice on the Mac are still:
1. Quicktime X with Perian
2. MplayerX
3. Hermi (a fork of Mplayer OS X Extended)

 

[questionmark]

Sorry if I'm sounding noob, but why would you play video games and watch movies at the same time?

On one hand you have games like Civilization which do not necessarily require your full attention. Or you could be watching a long-winded show. It could be a show that while you may enjoy to some extent, isn't so great that it requires your full attention.

 

[Stumpokapow]

- When I open a new video through Finder, Spotlight, or anywhere else, it opens up the library interface first and then starts the video. Jarring. I shouldn't be seeing that window at all.

Yeah, that's a dealbreaker for me. I specifically don't want a library. If I wanted a library, I'd use a program that was good at media library stuff, like XBMC

 

[Sethos]

Sorry if I'm sounding noob, but why would you play video games and watch movies at the same time?

On one hand you have games like Civilization which do not necessarily require your full attention. Or you could be watching a long-winded show. It could be a show that while you may enjoy to some extent, isn't so great that it requires your full attention.

Yeah, I tend to play a lot of games that require patience. Long winded RTS games, slew of MMOs and other simulation games where patience is the key and it doesn't require your full attention. Then it's nice to have something on the other monitor to keep you busy, a movie or a TV show. The amount of shows and movies I've watched I normally would't have is staggering. Same goes for the amount of games I've completed or just gave a decent shot that I normally wouldn't either.

 

[OatmealMu]

Did they ever fix the unresponsive UI issue with Wacom tablets? I have the same problem with Mumble. IIRC, the source of the problem was Qt.

 

[PjotrStroganov]

I tried 2.0 RC1. Found it to be buggy and in need of polish.

- The volume resets to 0 after every restart. I tried setting the default volume in the prefs but it just won't stick.
- When I open a new video through Finder, Spotlight, or anywhere else, it opens up the library interface first and then starts the video. Jarring. I shouldn't be seeing that window at all.

This has always been buggy for me.

 

[GameplayWhore]

gomplayer is good but "the kmplayer" is better

http://kmplayer.en.softonic.com/

At first I was all "Wow, they ported kmplayer to Windows?"

Then I was like "Awww, man, shouldn't makers of competing software refrain from using the same names for their products?"

 

[hirokazu]

VLC may have done certain things first but I don't remember it being as popular as MPC. MPC was always the most widely talked about standalone player on forums. Many people also preferred WMP+ffdshow. But anyways, I feel silly arguing about this so I'll stop.

I swear by MPC on Windows because frankly, VLC's UI is ugly and not very good.

VLC has terrible preferences that they cleaned up a lot recently, and it's fairly good if you ignore all the crap buried in it and pretend it doesn't exist.

Also some of the settings are buggy and break the player, but whatever.

 

[Borinot]

Potplayer x64 my friends.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Sounds good. I keep both VLC and MPC installed as VLC plays some files better than MPC and vice versa.

 

[neoanarch]

No beta? Weird. Anyone know the best nightly build to try out?

edit oops I was searching for beta. RC it is then.

 

[hirokazu]

I tried 2.0 RC1. Found it to be buggy and in need of polish.

- The volume resets to 0 after every restart. I tried setting the default volume in the prefs but it just won't stick.
- When I open a new video through Finder, Spotlight, or anywhere else, it opens up the library interface first and then starts the video. Jarring. I shouldn't be seeing that window at all.
- Quicktime X and Plex still seems to be the only ones that uses the least amount of cpu when playing high bitrate videos. Tried out a 4mbit video and QTX was the only one that could play it with only 10-15% cpu while QT7, MplayerX, and VLC all hovered around a constant 30%. Not sure what's keeping these guys from implementing full hardware acceleration.
- They're still not using a native interface. Reminds me of Firefox.

Huh, still same old VLC, I guess. Buggy and not particularly well implemented. :/

I just want it to be like QuickTime X with no window chrome and fade-out controls! None of that Media Library crap.

Firefox's imitation Mac UI bugs the hell out of me because for most intents and purposes, it's imitates a native Aqua UI, but then it doesn't always behave like a native Aqua interface should. But what annoys me the most is that native features such as System Services doesn't work in Firefox because it's actually a faux native UI.

 

[OneEightZero]

Still prefer QuickTime with a dash of Perian. ^_^

 

[wetwired]

I used to use VLC but it's gone to balls the last year or so and I've reverted to MPC, hopefully this will redeem them

 

[sangreal]

What advantages do either of those have?

Here's my use case for video:
- Open single English video with no subtitles on a local or networked drive in player.
- Optionally fullscreen video player
- Watch some or all of video, optionally skipping to the parts I want
- Optionally take a periodic screenshot of the video
- Optionally check video metadata
- Alt+F4/Apple+Q to close player.

Here are things I don't do:
- Use subtitles
- Use media library or playlist functions
- Use alternate audio tracks
- Use anything fancy
- Play internet or streaming content

Here are the bonus features I want:
- Ability to not save file history.

VLC is 20MB, plays anything I tell it to play including corrupt or broken files, is the same on both Windows and Mac, does all the things I do with video, and on Windows it's included in Ninite so I don't even manually download it.

Why should I switch? Note that any argument that doesn't reflect what I've said above is not useful to me.

If you're not looking for anything else, then there is no point in looking for a reason to switch. That said, MPC does all of these things and more (VLC certainly does more as well).

I have never had VLC fail to play a file. Ever. In like ten years I've used it. In the screenshot I link above to explain turning off the font cache, VLC is playing a 1080i MKV no problem. I'm not really sure how it would be any different in a different player regardless since virtually every player these days is just using ffmpeg/libavcodec regardless--Media Play Classic uses it through ffdshow, VLC uses it directly, MPlayer uses it directly.

Skipping around in a video works fine in both MPC (which I also have installed on my Windows computer) and VLC. File skipping is dependent largely on keyframing in the video file itself. I'm not really sure how I could test it, but I've certainly never perceived any trouble skipping around in VLC.

MPC can use ffdshow (or any alternative), but by default it uses its own internal hardware-accelerated filter.

 

[MCD]

I just use CCCP with LAV checked for H.264.

 

[archnemesis]

Nice! Maybe I'll starting using it again as a music player since most other media players still have issues with running Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, aac, and m4a.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Nice! Maybe I'll starting using it again as a music player since most other media players still have issues with running Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, aac, and m4a.

Those formats should work fine in foobar as long as you install the required plugins.

 

[archnemesis]

Those formats should work fine in foobar as long as you install the required plugins.

Foobar 2000 can't handle the size of my music library, unfortunately. I tried getting it to run properly a few years ago.

 

[Aklamarth]

Foobar 2000 can't handle the size of my music library, unfortunately. I tried getting it to run properly a few years ago.

And what size is that ? Honest question....

 

[archnemesis]

And what size is that ? Honest question....

Somewhere between 350 and 400 GB. Windows Media Player is also quite sluggish, but at least it doesn't freeze. Spotify handles it without any issues. Too bad it doesn't support all of the formats listed above.

 

[DeSo]

Potplayer x64 my friends.

Seconded.

 

[dbztrk]

VLC has always been second to MPC for me. If they manage to give it the filtering options of MPC, then VLC will become my main.

 

[Anteater]

I'll give it a try, I didn't like VLC because it's not really as snappy and quick when I skip around in a video a lot, and I think I couldn't get the shortcuts to work correctly (and I was too lazy to), I use mplayer extended on mac, but sometimes it's not as good as I want it to and it leaves instances running in the background when I close a video (or crashing), so I often have to go into activity monitor to close them all down.

 

[plainr_]

Turn it off then

lol Damn it. I did remember searching for a solution before.

 

[Expendable.]

So, is this coming out?

 

[IceCold]

I've switched from VLC to MPC a while ago. I didn't like how in VLC the video would get all pixelated when skipping. Another thing was that with VLC the colours looked more washed out and had more jaggies. The same videos in MPC would look much better.

 

[Stumpokapow]

MPC can use ffdshow (or any alternative), but by default it uses its own internal hardware-accelerated filter.

Oh neat I didn't know they used their own filter. ISTR last time I used it I saw the familiar ffdshow icon in my toolbar.

 

[Neuromancer]

I'm going to have to try this MPC you guys are talking about. I assume it has no issues with WMVs and MOVs too?

 

[polyh3dron]

hmm i wonder if it'll support 10-bit color... fucking fansubs always have to be on the bleeding edge of the codec shit.

How do these fansubbers not realize that not everyone wants to watch videos only on a Windows PC with MPC and the latest CCCP pack.

 

[sammich]

I havent used VLC in a long while but MPCHC + Madvr ftw! I set it up as my default player in XBMC and its awesome and quick. I dont really remember why i stopped using VLC in the first place though.

 

[ksdixon]

VLC will have to do a lot to overtake MPC for me.

YUP

 

[DieH@rd]

KMPlayer is more than enough for me. It plays everything out of the box, has the support for GPU encoding, and vastly better GUI than VLC.

 

[Im_Special]

All those shitty little orange cone icons are enough reason to not use VLC, oh and the whole lets steal pretty much every file type and never let them go, and if you uninstall me, well fuck you I'm going to take them with me instead of putting them back to the original association.

 

[hirokazu]

All those shitty little orange cone icons are enough reason to not use VLC, oh and the whole lets steal pretty much every file type and never let them go, and if you uninstall me, well fuck you I'm going to take them with me instead of putting them back to the original association.

This is what you get for using the installer instead of just getting the executables.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Yeah I used the 2.0 rc and it felt worst than one of the nightly builds, couldnt handle high action scenes in some videos wouldnt getting a colorful pixel mess.

Hopefully its corrected in the actual 2.0

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

So, is this coming out?

LOL you thought VideoLAN would release this on time.

 

[Vanillalite]

LOL you thought VideoLAN would release this on time.

Well you never know!

In general though I should have thought okay so maybe by the end of March. LOL

 

[HungOverOnATues]

Somewhere between 350 and 400 GB. Windows Media Player is also quite sluggish, but at least it doesn't freeze. Spotify handles it without any issues. Too bad it doesn't support all of the formats listed above.

I think there's something else at play here because I've got a larger library than that and have no problems with Foobar2000. Might be worth giving it another shot.

 

[hateradio]

Somewhere between 350 and 400 GB. Windows Media Player is also quite sluggish, but at least it doesn't freeze. Spotify handles it without any issues. Too bad it doesn't support all of the formats listed above.

My library is larger than yours. I think Foobar2000 may struggle at first to get it all together, but once it does, it doesn't have any issues.

At first I was all "Wow, they ported kmplayer to Windows?"

Then I was like "Awww, man, shouldn't makers of competing software refrain from using the same names for their products?"

Korean Media Player is not KDE's fronted for MPlayer.

Personally, I now use Daum PotPlayer which is written (I believe) by someone who used to work on KMP.

It works wonderfully and has a native x64 version for Windows.

http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=category&id=16

I rarely use VLC anymore and haven't touched MPC(HC) in ages.

 

[zoku88]

What advantages do either of those have?

Here's my use case for video:
- Open single English video with no subtitles on a local or networked drive in player.
- Optionally fullscreen video player
- Watch some or all of video, optionally skipping to the parts I want
- Optionally take a periodic screenshot of the video
- Optionally check video metadata
- Alt+F4/Apple+Q to close player.

Here are things I don't do:
- Use subtitles
- Use media library or playlist functions
- Use alternate audio tracks
- Use anything fancy
- Play internet or streaming content

Here are the bonus features I want:
- Ability to not save file history.

VLC is 20MB, plays anything I tell it to play including corrupt or broken files, is the same on both Windows and Mac, does all the things I do with video, and on Windows it's included in Ninite so I don't even manually download it.

Why should I switch? Note that any argument that doesn't reflect what I've said above is not useful to me.

I'm not sure about MPC or the OSX version of Mplayer, but at least in Linux, doing those things in the first list seem faster in mplayer than in VLC (since mplayer is pretty lightweight.)

Not sure about the periodic screenshot though (you might have to take manual screenshots rather than have a setting that automatically takes screenshots.)

EDIT: I'm dumb. I didn't realize that this thread was more than one page. No use responding to an older post...

EDIT2: I should add, my use case for video is usually just watching something straight through with a very light about of seeking. That's why I don't really need a GUI. I do like the amount of command line options for mplayer w.r.t filters/subtitiles/etc

 

[ihearthawthats]

wow at all the vlc hate in this thread. i like vlc because i don't like dealing with codecs even if cccp has made it extremely easy. i don't really watch movies fullscreen on my pc. i usually do "always on top" + "minimal mode" so i can do other stuff while something plays. its also mostly a bunch of smaller clips or webshows, so i often use the playlist window, and i find vlc's playlist functions work just fine for me.

so if mpc can do always on top, a view similar to vlc's "minimal mode" and has decent playlist functions, maybe i'd consider switching. also a few people mention mpc + cccp, so i have to install cccp its definitely a pass for me.