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Soul4ger · Mar 6, 2006

Oh my God, how does Tose continue to get work?

Mejilan · Mar 6, 2006

Fuck. FFV GBA and FFVI GBA too, surely? Fuck.

SolidSnakex · Mar 6, 2006

These were just posted on Watch, i'll post them in here

http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060306/vp.htm

CO_Andy · Mar 6, 2006

Bebpo said:
...yeah fuck TOSE those unskilled programmers.

duckroll said:
I heard they farm all programming to China and they're fucking cheap.

Mejilan said:
Fuck. FFV GBA and FFVI GBA too, surely? Fuck.

duckroll · Mar 6, 2006

Oh my god, on 22nd June Square Enix wants 14,910yen of my money for an ARTIFACT BOX comprising of VP2, a posable Silmeria figure and a soundtrack CD comprising a "best of" collection of VP and VP2 tracks. Sounds like a trap.

jarrod · Mar 6, 2006

duckroll said:
Yeah they are. I heard they farm all programming to China and they're fucking cheap.

They have 2 Chinese subsidiaries actually. The only games made in their JP studios I know of for sure are DQ spinoffs (Monsters, Slime Morimori) and Nintendo platformers (Peach, Starfi).

Kyouji · Mar 6, 2006

duckroll said:
Oh my god, on 22nd June Square Enix wants 14,910yen of my money for an ARTIFACT BOX comprising of VP2, a posable Silmeria figure and a soundtrack CD comprising a "best of" collection of VP and VP2 tracks. Sounds like a trap.

TRAPT!

BAIL OUT
(A)

MadFuzzy · Mar 6, 2006

Soul4ger said:
Oh my God, how does Tose continue to get work?

Because they're cheaper than Japanese programmers?

duckroll · Mar 6, 2006

Kyouji said:
TRAPT!

BAIL OUT
(A)

Well apparently it also comes with some "Metal Accessory". That's really vague.... it could be anything from a spiked dildo to a keychain. Trapt indeed.

Kyouji · Mar 6, 2006

duckroll said:
Well apparently it also comes with some "Metal Accessory". That's really vague.... it could be anything from a spiked dildo to a keychain. Trapt indeed.

Maybe the "metal accessory" is the knife Krauser wields after he pops out of the box to cut you.

No seriously, I'm an LE whore, but even I won't be falling for this. No way in hell I'm gonna pay 14,910 (probably get bumped up to 200 US by import shops) for a game from Tri-Ace with no guarantee of its quality.

jarrod · Mar 6, 2006

Anyway, it seems Square Enix really likes working with TOSE...

Final Fantasy IV (PS1) 1997
Final Fantasy V (PS1) 1998
Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland (GBC) 1998
Final Fantasy VI (PS1) 1999
Dragon Quest I+II (GBC) 1999
Final Fantasy (WSC) 2000
Dragon Quest III (GBC) 2000
Final Fantasy II (WSC) 2001
Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Ruka no Tabadachi (GBC) 2001
Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru no Bouken (GBC) 2001
Final Fantasy IV (WSC) 2002
Dragon Quest Monsters 1+2 (PS1) 2002
Final Fantasy (PS1) 2002
Final Fantasy II (PS1) 2002
Dragon Quest Monsters: Caravan Heart (GBA) 2003
Slime Morimori Dragon Quest: Shougeki No Shippo Dan (GBA) 2003
Final Fantasy I+II Advance (GBA) 2004
Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest 2: Daisensha to Shippo Dan (NDS) 2005
Final Fantasy IV Advance (GBA) 2005
Valkyrie Profile Lenneth (PSP) 2006
Final Fantasy V Advance (GBA) 2006
Final Fantasy VI Advance (GBA) 2006
Dragon Quest Monsters DS (NDS) 2006

Shouta · Mar 6, 2006

Man, thet only way they'd get me to buy the Silmeria LE is if the game came with a 12 inch, super detailed figure of Silmeria. That'd truly seal the deal.

And w00t for Lezard! Or should I say Lizard as he was originally known as =P.

Archie · Mar 6, 2006

jarrod said:
Dragon Quest Monsters DS (NDS) 2006

Wait, WHAT? (Sorry for the derail)

duckroll · Mar 6, 2006

Shouta said:
Man, thet only way they'd get me to buy the Silmeria LE is if the game came with a 12 inch, super detailed figure of Silmeria. That'd truly seal the deal.

And w00t for Lezard! Or should I say Lizard as he was originally known as =P.

If the figure was of any real quality at all, it would be at least 25,000yen and you know it. LEs are getting lamer and lamer. Damn ripoffs.

Beowvlf · Mar 6, 2006

duckroll said:
Port is definitely poor.

Bebpo said:
Lenneth PSP sucks who cares

What the shit, do I have to beg for details?! Specifics ASAP!

kenta · Mar 6, 2006

Heian-kyo said:
What the shit, do I have to beg for details?! Specifics ASAP!

duckroll made it quite clear, the port itself is not a shining example of how a port is supposed to be done, but the game itself is excellent.

duckroll · Mar 6, 2006

Ok for those that can't read paragraphs here it is in POINT form.

Pros:
+It's fucking Valkyrie Profile
+The game isn't broken
+Controls works
+It's not censored like the US VP
+Widescreen
+Portable

Cons:
-Longer loading than PS version
-Badly filtered sprites are ugly
-Zoomed in badly filtered spriters are uglier
-Badly filtered text is annoying
-Slowdown in dungeons

Debatable:
+/-Key cutscenes replaced by low budget CG FMV

Beowvlf · Mar 6, 2006

kenta said:
duckroll made it quite clear, the port itself is not a shining example of how a port is supposed to be done, but the game itself is excellent.

I know that, but I want specifics other than kiryogi's point about the text and sprite bluring. Is there slowdown? Bad audio? Poor controls, and if so how? Etc.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Mar 6, 2006

duckroll said:
Pros:
+It's not censored like the US VP

What was censored? :?

Beowvlf · Mar 6, 2006

duckroll said:
Ok for those that can't read paragraphs here it is in POINT form.

Pros:
+It's fucking Valkyrie Profile
+The game isn't broken
+Controls works
+It's not censored like the US VP
+Widescreen
+Portable

Cons:
-Longer loading than PS version
-Badly filtered sprites are ugly
-Zoomed in badly filtered spriters are uglier
-Badly filtered text is annoying
-Slowdown in dungeons

Debatable:
+/-Key cutscenes replaced by low budget CG FMV

This was aimed at me ;_; I can read.... slowly....

Thanks though man. It's seems the bluring is the worst aspect. How bad/often is the slowdown, and how long is the loading?

duckroll · Mar 6, 2006

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
What was censored? :?

Badluck's smoking was removed because the old President of Enix USA was really REALLY against smoking. He removed it from their dancing games too. Instead of his "flick a bunch of cigs to blow the enemies up" finisher, in the US version he merely shot a shitload of arrows ending with an explosion as a finisher.

Brandon F · Mar 6, 2006

So is there a cutscene skip option for replay games?

MoxManiac · Mar 6, 2006

Who is the US equivilant of Badluck? I don't recall that character.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Mar 6, 2006

MoxManiac said:
Who is the US equivilant of Badluck? I don't recall that character.

I think Badrach....

Stupid name change...like Fate Linegod and such.

MoxManiac · Mar 6, 2006

Oh, yeah. Probably him.

Shouta · Mar 6, 2006

Badrach was a lame character anyway.

jj984jj · Mar 6, 2006

Bebpo said:
Lenneth PSP sucks who cares

Yay fir Silmeria and yeah fuck TOSE those unskilled programmers.

They really need to close down their porting studio. I wanted FFV+VI on the go, but I may skip them now.

jarrod said:
Anyway, it seems Square Enix really likes working with TOSE...

Final Fantasy IV (PS1) 1997
Final Fantasy V (PS1) 1998
Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland (GBC) 1998
Final Fantasy VI (PS1) 1999
Dragon Quest I+II (GBC) 1999
Final Fantasy (WSC) 2000
Dragon Quest III (GBC) 2000
Final Fantasy II (WSC) 2001
Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Ruka no Tabadachi (GBC) 2001
Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru no Bouken (GBC) 2001
Final Fantasy IV (WSC) 2002
Dragon Quest Monsters 1+2 (PS1) 2002
Final Fantasy (PS1) 2002
Final Fantasy II (PS1) 2002
Dragon Quest Monsters: Caravan Heart (GBA) 2003
Slime Morimori Dragon Quest: Shougeki No Shippo Dan (GBA) 2003
Final Fantasy I+II Advance (GBA) 2004
Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest 2: Daisensha to Shippo Dan (NDS) 2005
Final Fantasy IV Advance (GBA) 2005
Valkyrie Profile Lenneth (PSP) 2006
Final Fantasy V Advance (GBA) 2006
Final Fantasy VI Advance (GBA) 2006
Dragon Quest Monsters DS (NDS) 2006

You should note that their Japanese studio has made a few decent games (like DQM+SMMDQ for SE and Starfi+SPP for Nintendo).

Bebpo · Mar 6, 2006

Heian-kyo said:
This was aimed at me ;_; I can read.... slowly....

Thanks though man. It's seems the bluring is the worst aspect. How bad/often is the slowdown, and how long is the loading?

Actually the loading and random slowdown is just as annoying if not moreso. Going to the menu has a 2-3 sec LOADING TIME in and out @_@. Game is near unplayable IMO.

MoxManiac · Mar 6, 2006

Geez, that sounds horrible. Maybe i'll stick to the PS1 version.

Who am I kidding, I'll get the PSP version like the tool I am :lol

CO_Andy · Mar 7, 2006

Bebpo said:
Actually the loading and random slowdown is just as annoying if not moreso. Going to the menu has a 2-3 sec LOADING TIME in and out @_@. Game is near unplayable IMO.

We all know how much you hate load times, Bebpo. I can imagine you being stuck in a mental asylum during the 32-bit days.

If that list is accurate, then i guess TOSE can't be all that bad. I find the FF Origins port to be stupendous.

duckroll · Mar 7, 2006

Bebpo exaggerates a lot. So translate "unplayable" to "disappointing" and you're fine.

kiryogi · Mar 7, 2006

It's as its been said over and over in this thread. It's a very disappointing port, but it's still a playable PORTABLE Valkyrie Profile, and even more so if you've never touched it. IMO, the loading really doesn't bug me at all, I've felt worse on the PSP... (Y'6s !!!)

chaostrophy · Mar 7, 2006

Wow...introducing slowdown when porting a game from a 33 mhz system to a 222+ mhz one...I think that takes a very special blend of incompetence and laziness.

thetrin · Mar 7, 2006

SolidSnakex said:
These were just posted on Watch, i'll post them in here

http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060306/vp.htm

I noticed in that battle pic, it no longer shows how many hits a given character can deliver on the controller diamond anymore. Does that mean they took out multiple hit weapons, or it's just displayed differently now?

Tamanon · Mar 7, 2006

I can't wait for this to come out here. Please be true

jj984jj · Mar 7, 2006

kiryogi said:
It's as its been said over and over in this thread. It's a very disappointing port, but it's still a playable PORTABLE Valkyrie Profile, and even more so if you've never touched it. IMO, the loading really doesn't bug me at all, I've felt worse on the PSP... (Y'6s !!!)

I feel sorry for those who missed out on such an awesome game the first time, more load times then the original on a portable.

PSP really did need a TV out, it was my decision to hold out on getting one at launch after Sony said they weren't putting one on the thing (until GT4M arrived), I had a feeling I would not just need to but have to play the thing at home most of the time. It would have been awesome to have it to remove whenever I couldn't play on the TV anymore, and I'm sure PSP as well as UMDs would have been a much bigger hit if PSP had a TV out.

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