DodgyGeezerFella
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Not on DS1, shits unfixable. DS2 was glorious.
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Vsync on or off?
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Not on DS1, shits unfixable. DS2 was glorious.
There ya go. Was gonna post this.
Taco_Human
Member
Always off. At 120 hz, I don't get much tearing anymore.
Exactly this. First thing I check with a new PC game.
Maybe i'm a minority with this opinion, but I prefer to leave it on for overheating reasons. Why have my gpu usage maxed out with 150FPS generating a ton of heat, when I can just turn on v-sync and conserve the resources? Honestly screen tearing isn't that big of an issue with me which is why i'm fine with just capping the framerate to 60.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Nobody's cleared this up for you yet, and since you said you're new to PC gaming...
(And if you already knew all this then I apologize)
It's not that vsync is giving you a 30-frame hit to the performance. Vsync does impact framerate, but on modern machines it's almost negligible. What it does do is lock your framerate to the refresh rate of your monitor, or a fraction of it. If your monitor is 60hz then those extra frames you were getting in Spec Ops were wasted, or at least invisible to you.
To answer the question, the answer is vsync, yes, all the time, in every situation*. Screen tearing is the bane of my existence. I don't even notice the input lag and I'm not so hyper-competitive that it bothers me in multiplayer games.
*The one game I turn it off for is Super Hexagon. You need to be so god damn fast in that game that the input lag is actually incredibly noticeable and makes the game at least twice as hard as it needs to be. Unfortunately the screen tears like a motherfucker in Super Hexagon.
diggmcbadass
Member
This.
The tearing on 120+hz monitors isn't too bad though, so it's less of a compromise.
Also, pre ordered Asus Rog Swift this week, so come two weeks 144hz/gsync/1440p goodness will make v-sync obsolete.
PeterBazooka
Member
Borderless Window + vsync off = no lag and no screen tearing.
https://github.com/Codeusa/Borderless-Gaming/releases/tag/1
https://github.com/Codeusa/Borderless-Gaming/releases/tag/1
Totally. Screen tearing irritate me so much, but to be competitive in MP you need the less input lag possible.
Bony Manifesto
Member
The Dead Space PC port was just fucked in general. They messed up the controls so badly that both gamepad and mouse and keyboard controls were broken in different ways. That the in-game v-sync didn't work properly (wasn't it locked to 30fps or something?) was neither here nor there as you could enable it externally.
Platinum_D
Member
It depends on the game i mostly keep it off if there's not much screen tearing problems
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
IIRC, that's technically using the Windows implementation of vsync.
I turn vsync off. Tearing isn't much of a problem at high refresh rates, and it's definitely not a problem with gysnc on. But I mostly play online shooters.
It's quite situational. I leave it off at first but then turn it on if it's a game with lots of noticeable tearing. It gets complex after that though; but to put it as simply as I can if there's obvious input lag and no alternative methods of Vsync that work better (since how you force Vysnc can change how it works a lot depending on the game) it's going off and I'll just deal with the tearing.
Edit: Borderless Windowed Fullscreen tends to be the most consistently good solution in recent times.
Edit: Borderless Windowed Fullscreen tends to be the most consistently good solution in recent times.
Gaffercake
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Opinions in this thread couldn't be more divided.
TouchMyBox
Member
My PC is pretty snazzy. The input lag v-sync introduces at 120 Hz is totally acceptable and I'm willing to enable it in almost every game, but it's still there.
Denton
Member
Please elaborate. Because as I said, I finished entire trilogy on PC, in 60fps vsynced, with gamepad...and had no issues at all, no bugs or crashes either. As far as I could tell, the port was bad in only one aspect, and that was the ingame vsync locking the game to 30fps.
Yep, unless it makes the game run like shit, which happens really rarely, I'll always use it.
It blows my mind when people are anal about enabling every single graphical option (even if it means spending $1k on video cards) and then are cool with screen tearing turning everything into an absolute mess any time there is movement. I understand that sometimes vsync is best off, especially if it introduces some lag, but every single time no matter what? Weird.
Barrow Roll
Member
Yup, and if you're on Nvidia, the triple buffering option in the control panel and inspector is for OpenGL only.
Alcoholikaust
Member
Id say always ON, but I play with it off on Sniper Elite 3 on PS4
and I dont want to lie to people
and I dont want to lie to people
Yup.
I cant deal with the delay , the screen tearing doesnt bother me all that much since i got a 120hz panel it seems less noticeable somehow.
Playing competitive with vsync on is suicide
dreamstation
Member
ON if the game doesn't suffer from input lag when it's enabled, which isn't very often. Divinity is one of the few games that doesn't. No tearing and no input lag - perfect.
onken
Member
This.
CurlySaysX
Banned
My pc isn't powerful enough to give me smooth fps with vsync, so off...however, enabling vsync on kde desktop for Linux, without disabling desktop effects on full screen apps, screen tearing for games disappears and frame rates still remain high - way above screen refresh rate.
On console I like the implementation of vsync in infamous, it runs above 30 but has no tearing.
On console I like the implementation of vsync in infamous, it runs above 30 but has no tearing.
Bony Manifesto
Member
The game didn't seem to have native mouse & keyboard support, so all your inputs were 'converted' to controller inputs, which felt laggy, awkward, and generally awful (and, if memory serves, the aim control was ridiculously slow compared to the camera control).
The problems with the controller support came from the measures they took to make the camera controls more responsive for the keyboard and mouse - there was a large deadzone on the analogue stick, and the speed was super-high, with next to no variation when you tilt the stick.
That's just the first game though. Perhaps they fixed it in the sequels, but obviously I'm in no hurry to hand over the money to find out!
Only the Sith deal in absolutes.
But seriously, I get that people have preferences, but many people are mistaking their preferences for objective reasoning here.
It all depends. Every game runs differently. Your own hardware configuration can create certain unique circumstances. Ideally, its something you should play around with in multiple games, preferably of different genres, to find out what you prefer. But even then there can be exceptions.
Personally, I find that vsync is my friend more often than not. I'm not very sensitive to input lag, even with something like a racing simulator, so if I can vsync it, I tend to do it. But certain games have wildly fluctuating framerates or even occasional drops below 60fps that mean that vsync can cause unbearable stuttering.
So yea, there's no simple answer. Find out what you prefer and then roll with that most often, but don't be afraid to turn vsync on or off if necessary.
But seriously, I get that people have preferences, but many people are mistaking their preferences for objective reasoning here.
It all depends. Every game runs differently. Your own hardware configuration can create certain unique circumstances. Ideally, its something you should play around with in multiple games, preferably of different genres, to find out what you prefer. But even then there can be exceptions.
Personally, I find that vsync is my friend more often than not. I'm not very sensitive to input lag, even with something like a racing simulator, so if I can vsync it, I tend to do it. But certain games have wildly fluctuating framerates or even occasional drops below 60fps that mean that vsync can cause unbearable stuttering.
So yea, there's no simple answer. Find out what you prefer and then roll with that most often, but don't be afraid to turn vsync on or off if necessary.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Always on.
Zeyphersan
Banned
On no matter what (unless the implementation is broken). I can't deal with screen tearing, I can deal with a minuscule amount of input lag (that I thankfully don't notice)
IISANDERII
Member
It's Bioshock Infinity, it's supposed to.
I don't think I've played a game on my PC that doesn't cause screen tearing, especially first person. Why is that? It drives me insane. I play a lot of games solo but it drove me nuts in Titanfall which was one of the many reasons I quit playing shortly after release.
How do you guys play with tearing? Does it not drive you crazy? I don't even understand why it happens in the first place.
How do you guys play with tearing? Does it not drive you crazy? I don't even understand why it happens in the first place.
Rolodzeo
Member
This + RivaTuner/Afterburner to limit fps in order to maintain a rock solid stable framerate.
HoodWinked
Member
on if you prioritize visuals, off if you prioritize gameplay.
vsync off is typically the correct choice. however there are ways to have both which i typically do.
vsync off is typically the correct choice. however there are ways to have both which i typically do.
RPGCrazied
Member
Always on. Screen tearing can die in a fire. I'd rather have 20 fps than tearing.