SillyEskimo
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That's going to be a 30k model from Forge World. They've been building towards it for years with all their army and battle books.
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That's going to be a 30k model from Forge World. They've been building towards it for years with all their army and battle books.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Speaking of Dark Angels, there is going to be a seminar tomorrow about the next Horus Heresy Forge World Book.
Cant wait to hear a little story of Calgar handing over the gauntlets !
SillyEskimo
Member
Hmmm. You gotta think lore-wise and also "selling shit-wise", lol. I think he may just go "Hey, you did the best you could with what you had". "Btw, we need to drop the 1,000 man limit on chapters now because these are such hard times and also so lunatic collectors can have games with 10,000+ miniatures on the board". He wrote the codex so he can change it however he wants after all.
He's going to have so. much. shit. to sort through that I personally do not think him infighting with his own chapter is going to be at the top of the story list. I could be wrong, but I think he'll quickly be directed to bigger and more important things with the full might of a rejuvenated and mission directed chapter. How that ripples through the highest ranks of the Ultramarines will be pretty damn fun to read about. I'm sure every last one will take a knee and feel like they are following the Chosen One.
I just gotta laugh at the thought of a Day 1 scout's first day on the job, fresh out of initiate training, and someone's like "Oh yeah btw, did you hear that our goddamn PRIMARCH just woke from the dead?".
It's for 30k/Horus Heresy, and if you look at the picture in the first link there is a little box talking about the Legio Custodes Tribune, stating that the Tribune must always serve as the Warlord unit unless three other different units are present one of course being the Emperor of Mankind himself. So it blatantly tells us that Emperor will have a model and usable in game as a unit.
Dictator93
Member
Well, he can at least count on the successors to follow his lead. There have to be at least 200K marines or so based on that geneseed alone I imagine. Right?
Beyond that it is hard to say, obviously not everyone was a big fan of codex astartes. Then again, Guilliman comes off as extremely level headed in the HH books... so maybe he will not be as contentious among the Adeptus Astartes in m41... rather among other imperial cadres. I can imagine the inquistion not being at all happy with him coming back, especially the circumstances of it.
They could re-introduce the title of Lord Commander of the Imperium. Guilliman created it after the Heresy, but it got abolished during WAAAGH! Beast.
Olengie
Member
I saw it. Guess I glossed over it. LOL
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Hah, just tuned into Warhammer Live and they've got Miniwargaming Dave helping commentate the Las Vegas Open coverage: https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer
SillyEskimo
Member
so people are still doubting Cypher's allegianceall on facebook it seems
In order to admit that he is a good guy means to admit that the Dark Angels are misguided at best and traitors at worse. It's only natural that DA players and fans would have a difficult time believing he was a good guy the entire time. It only has negative connotations for the DA chapter if true.
Cosmic Schwung
Member
Quite a few of them have unknown fates. Wouldn't be surprised to see one to pop up shortly after each deamon primarch model is released.
so people are still doubting Cypher's allegiance
Well, he's definitely helping the Imperial forces, but his motives aren't clear. He just wants a trip to Terra but he's not saying why.
by the way is Roboute suppose to be based on Julius Caesar with the leafs in his head which is sort of the stereotypical Ancient Roman look
Yes, Ultramar is supposed to be Greco-Roman IN SPACE. Though the laurel wreath is common outside of Ultramar as well.
I had always assumed he was on his way to Terra to kill the Emperor, as per the star-child prophecy.
EDIT: And I worry they are going to Worf Roboute, and have Abaddon kill him off to show how powerful he now is.
I don't think they will.....I think this is going to be the beginning of a long story development with Roboute trying to restructure the entire Imperium while also dealing with the lords of terra, inqusition and other elements
SillyEskimo
Member
This could go the other way too, and show that how powerful Abby is now still pales in comparison to a Primarch of old. Still, Emperor's sword vs Horus's lightening claw all over again! Perhaps Dante can fulfill his prophecy and face Abby first, getting his ass killed but opening up a weak point in Abby's armor for Robutt to exploit!
And I agree 100% on the star child prophecy theory. Caliban's entire purpose is to kill the Emperor of Mankind.
Ehh... I don't think that Abaddon is Primarch level. They are stupidly powerful - can tank cannon blasts with their face and whatnot. Though that feat might not be literal, since Vulkan was musing how such durability just not should be possible.
Dictator93
Member
I wonder how they will have the emperor's sword being there. I always thought it was resting across his lap as he sat on the golden throne.
SillyEskimo
Member
Interesting. Perhaps one of the new characters will take it from the golden thrown and present it to him? (FYI, the above may be fan art, hence a different looking sword.)
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Something tells me it might tie in with Belisarius Cawl.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
I can't wait to see what Forge World does with the Sister of Silence. I like the vehicle that they showed today.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
He's a great first to bring back due to his significance. The rest can follow as the storylines develop over the next decade. Russ coming back could mean he has what he needs to cure the GE though.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Nope. That is what we have Dante for.What about Sangunius next after Roboute
I mean....
Is there any possible chance that Black Library might retcon Sangunius death towards the end of the Horus Heresy series..
I want to see the Angel again
is there any chance?
well there is one thing im worried about
I don't want this to be a one and done for Roboute where he comes back and then sacrificies himself....I don't want this to be like Vulkan during The Beast arises
I hope GW has a long term plan with Roboute trying to reorganize the Imperium
I don't want this to be a one and done for Roboute where he comes back and then sacrificies himself....I don't want this to be like Vulkan during The Beast arises
I hope GW has a long term plan with Roboute trying to reorganize the Imperium
manfestival
Member
welp looks like the return of roboute really electrified the community. I talked to a couple people that havent played in years and are now considering coming back because of all that is going on. Something along the lines of waiting like 20+ years for these events
SillyEskimo
Member
That's a given.
Also, did a little reading and it would appear that 500ish of the space Marine chapters, or roughly half, are either directly from Ultramarine gene stock or their Second Founding successors. It is considered the most stable gene stock by the Imperium.
So, our first risen Primarch will likely have immediate command of half the loyalist marine chapters.
I can see Roboute helping Cypher kill the Emperor so they can "rebirth" him
Cosmic Schwung
Member
He's only just been given a model and rules for use in 40k, he's isn't going to die.
StaffyManasse
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ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
A look at Magnus the Red.
so a guy on DakkaDakka, said he listened to a stream that had some mild spoilers about Rise of the Primarch
After the end of the first book when the imperium and Eldar, everyone heads back to Macragge for reasons. When they get there the find it under full blown assault by the black legion. Apparently the destruction of the pylons at Cabin has let chaos strike pretty much anywhere they like.
Some grey Knights tip up too, including the new guy.
Anyway the chaos invasion gets as far as the very chamber in which roboute is sleeping. He wakes up somehow, turns the tide on chaos and in no time at all wins the war for Macragge.
After this they need to go to Terra for reasons, but warp travel is a bit tricky. They end having to go through the maelstrom for reasons. They meet Cypher who says he will help them through the maelstrom if they take him to Terra.
there is apparently a lot of stuff about Roboute dealing with the changes to the imperium in his absence. Celestial freaks him out a bit because she reminds him of Dad. He apparently also knows Cawl from way back.
Some grey Knights tip up too, including the new guy.
Anyway the chaos invasion gets as far as the very chamber in which roboute is sleeping. He wakes up somehow, turns the tide on chaos and in no time at all wins the war for Macragge.
After this they need to go to Terra for reasons, but warp travel is a bit tricky. They end having to go through the maelstrom for reasons. They meet Cypher who says he will help them through the maelstrom if they take him to Terra.
there is apparently a lot of stuff about Roboute dealing with the changes to the imperium in his absence. Celestial freaks him out a bit because she reminds him of Dad. He apparently also knows Cawl from way back.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Cleaner version of that pic of 30K Magnus:
Cover art for upcoming Black Library Horus Heresy stuff!
Cover art for upcoming Black Library Horus Heresy stuff!
February 2017 novel:
March 2017 audio drama:
April 2017 anthology:
April 2017 novel:
May 2017 audio drama anthology:
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ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Fulgrim is kinda of an idiot if you really think about. But yeah, he is a tragic figure in the Horus Heresy.
He's a big proponent of "do as I say, not as I do". Though with psykers it's more about "you're gonna fuck this up if you're not careful - and you're not being careful so I'll ban you from the toys"
so me and my friend got in an argument
He thinks a Chaos Space Marine, currently, is on the level of a Primarch, because of the 10,000 years of experience gained while the loyalist Primarchs have been missing or in stasis
he claims that most CSM are probably even more experienced than Roboute, seeing as he has been out of commission for 9000 years
is he right, could a CSM match a primarch?
He thinks a Chaos Space Marine, currently, is on the level of a Primarch, because of the 10,000 years of experience gained while the loyalist Primarchs have been missing or in stasis
he claims that most CSM are probably even more experienced than Roboute, seeing as he has been out of commission for 9000 years
is he right, could a CSM match a primarch?
Dictator93
Member
Beyond the whole lame-ness of "power level" conversations in general, I really do not think a legionaire veteran of the long war stands up to a primarch with any real scrutiny. Reading the HH books puts that into perspective as even incredibly powerful warriors and xenos are put down by the primarchs before they even see the strike that hits them.
Fulgrim v. Avatar of Khaine.
Sanginius v. Blood Thirster
etc.
Also, one must not forget that having spent XXXX amount of years in the eye does not mean XXXX amount of years in realspace, nor taht such years mean accumulated practical experience. Similarly, not all legionaires of the traitor legions are from the heresy times: they have been recruiting, implanting geneseed, or taking stock from traitor CSM chapters as well. The Iron Warriors book puts that into perspective. Also, not all legionaires from that time have ascended to demon hood or have been granted gifts.