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Washington Redskins to undergo thorough review of team's name

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The Washington Redskins announced Friday that the team will undergo a thorough review of the team's name.

"In light of recent events around our country and feedback from our community, the Washington Redskins are announcing the team will undergo a thorough review of the team's name," the team said in a statement. "This review formalizes the initial discussions the team has been having with the league in recent weeks."
Team owner Dan Snyder said in statement: "This process allows the team to take into account not only the proud tradition and history of the franchise but also input from our alumni, the organization, sponsors, the National Football League and the local community it is proud to represent on and off the field."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement the league is supportive of this step.
"In the last few weeks we have had ongoing discussions with Dan and we are supportive of this important step," Goodell said.
The announcement comes less than 24 hours after FedEx, the company with naming rights to the team's stadium, requested the Washington Redskins to change the team's name.
 

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Washington Red Shins




 

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I live in DC, people are going to be mad.

Kacho Kacho Thoughts?

Though i am from Buffalo so I am always a joke.
 

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As a Scandinavian I am very offended by Blackburn Vikings, this constant reminder that most people see us as nothing as brutish savages that raid Britains shores and pillage and plunder is vile, wrong and just an old stereotype that is perpetuated by racist clubs such as this.

We demand change now! ✊
 
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I suggest Washington Slave Owners, or maybe Washington Masters.

Though my favorite might be Washington Suicide by 2 bullet holes to the back of you head from Hillary Clintons.
 

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In the past the fans outnumbered the outrage mob that didn't even watch football. But things are different now the mob is more mainstream and people that didn't care or were even aware of the name being a problem are being activated.

This died down last time cause native Indians didn't actually have a problem with it. But that no longer matters to white liberals as they've co-opted these waves of forced compliance.
 

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Goddard's alternative etymology is that the term emerged from the speech of Native Americans themselves, and that the origin and use of the term in the late 18th and early 19th century was benign when it first appeared "it came in the most respectful context and at the highest level. ... These are white people and Indians talking together, with the white people trying to ingratiate themselves".[20] The word later underwent a process of pejoration, by which it gained a negative connotation.[21] Goddard suggests that "redskin" emerged from French translations of Native American speech in Illinois and Missouri territories in the 18th century. He cites as the earliest example a 1769 set of "talks", or letters, from chiefs of the Piankeshaw to an English officer at Fort de Chartres. One letter included "si quelques peaux Rouges", which was translated as "if any redskins", and the second included "tout les peaux rouges", which was translated as "all the redskins".[18]:4 However, in an interview Goddard admitted that it is impossible to verify whether the native words were accurately translated.[20]

The term appeared in an August 22, 1812, meeting between President James Madison and a delegation of chiefs from western tribes. There, the response of Osage chief "No Ears" (Osage: Tetobasi) to Madison's speech included the statement, "I know the manners of the whites and the red skins," while French Crow, principal chief of the Wahpekute band of Santee Sioux, was recorded as having said, "I am a red-skin, but what I say is the truth, and notwithstanding I came a long way I am content, but wish to return from here."[18]:14–15

The earliest known appearance of the term in print occurred in 1813, in an article in the Weekly Register quoting a letter dated August 27, 1813. It concerned an expedition during the War of 1812 led by General Benjamin Howard against Indians in the Illinois and Mississippi territories: "The expedition will be 40 days out, and there is no doubt but we shall have to contend with powerful hordes of red skins ..."[22]

However, while these usages may have been earlier, they may not have been disseminated widely. (For instance, while the 1812 meeting with President Madison was contemporaneously recorded, the records were not published until 2004. Goddard suggests that a key usage was in a 20 July 1815 speech by Meskwaki chief Black Thunder at the treaty council at Portage des Sioux, in which he is recorded as stating, "My Father – Restrain your feelings, and hear ca[l]mly what I shall say. I shall tell it to you plainly, I shall not speak with fear and trembling. I feel no fear. I have no cause to fear. I have never injured you, and innocence can feel no fear. I turn to all, red skins and white skins, and challenge an accusation against me." This speech was published widely, and Goddard speculates that it reached James Fenimore Cooper. In Cooper's novels The Pioneers (published in 1823) and The Last of the Mohicans (1826), both Native American and white characters use the term. These novels were widely distributed, and can be credited with bringing the term to "universal notice". The first time the term appears in Bartlett's "Dictionary of Americanisms" (in 1858), Goddard notes, the illustrative reference is to Last of the Mohicans.[18]:15–16

Johnathan Buffalo, historic preservation director of the Meskwaki, said that in the 1800s "redskins" was used by the tribe for self-identification. Similarly, they identified others as "whiteskins" or "blackskins".[23] Goddard's evidence for Native language usage includes a 1914 phonetic transcription of the Meskwaki language in which both eesaawinameshkaata 'one with brown skin' and meeshkwinameshkaata 'one with red skin' were used to refer to Indians, while waapeshkinameshkaanichini 'one with white skin, white person' was used to refer to Europeans.[24] However, the pre-contact Meskwaki use of "red" in identifying themselves did not refer to skin color, but to their origin stories as the "red-earth" people.


The word is only racist because wokesters decided that it was racist. Its like if you called a Mexican team the Mexican brownskins. Then all of a sudden every decided using the term brown was racist and white people 100 years ago used the term so clearly its a NAZI white supremacist term

Three predominantly Native American schools use the name for their athletic teams, two of which serve reservations: Red Mesa High School in Teec Nos Pos, Arizona where the student body is 99% Native American.[48] and Wellpinit High School, Wellpinit, Washington.[49] The principal of Red Mesa said in 2014 that use of the word outside American Indian communities should be avoided because it could perpetuate "the legacy of negativity that the term has created."[50] In 2014, Wellpinit High School, located on the Spokane Indian Reservation, voted to keep the Redskins name.[51] Native American writer and attorney Gyasi Ross compares Native American use of variations of the word "Redskin" with African-American use of variations of the word "Nigger". Use of these terms by some members of minority communities does not mean that these words may be used by outsiders. Ross also notes that while activism on the issue may be from a minority of Native Americans, this is due to most being concerned with more immediate issues, but also says "The presentation of the name 'Redskins' is problematic for many Native Americans because it identifies Natives in a way that the vast majority of Natives simply don't identity ourselves."

Even native schools use the term, but they try and play it off like the N word and say we can say it but whitey can't. Rules for thee but not for me.

Its a grift plain and simple. Its made up controversy to get attention.
 

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Didn't they trademark The Washington Warriors or something like that years ago? Probably as a backup whenever this was going to happen.
 

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The thing is it's probably not even mostly Native Americans that are offended by the name, if you've ever actually been around any a lot of them like the team and the Cleveland Indians and owns gear from those teams if they're sports fans.
 

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The thing is it's probably not even mostly Native Americans that are offended by the name, if you've ever actually been around any a lot of them like the team and the Cleveland Indians and owns gear from those teams if they're sports fans.

it’s not. The Washington post wasn’t satisfied with the first results from the earlier poll taken so they did another one. It ended up having even an higher percentage of NAs not being offended by the name which I’m sure pained them to release.

This topic was dead much like the statues and many other things but the liberals used some guys death as their way to get shit they wanted. They don’t even give a fuck about Floyd. They saw their opportunity to abuse a situation and went for it. It’s never going to stop now.
 

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To me they will always be the Washington Redskins.
If native Americans are mostly not bothered by it why should anyone else care.
 
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Starting to pull their merch, etc.


This is what kills me about the limp dick virtue signaling from corporations.

They are all for getting rid of (an admittedly offensive) team name and logo in order to escape the frothing mobs out looking for social justice....but are complete cool with their decades of child labor and sweatshops that have been used to make their products at a profit margin they deem worthy.

Fuck outta here Nike you scumbags.
 
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Indians do not fucking care about it.

It is always a bunch of millennial white liberals, a.k.a. society's cancer, who care about this kind of shit.

Indians are like "redskins, cool".

It's like Japanese people. I've seen white westerners offended by people wearing kimonos and Japanese people are like "whatever plebs, let them wear what they want".

The whole concept of cultural appropriation is FUCKING RETARDED and so are those who are on board with it.
 
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Indians do not fucking care about it.

It is always a bunch of millennial white liberals, a.k.a. society's cancer, who care about this kind of shit.

Indians are like "redskins, cool".

Depends on who you ask.


Either way it is a slur and there's no harm in changing the name.
 
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This is what kills me about the limp dick virtue signaling from corporations.

They are all for getting rid of (an admittedly offensive) team name and logo in order to escape the frothing mobs out looking for social justice....but are complete cool with their decades of child labor and sweatshops that have been used to make their products at a profit margin they deem worthy.

Fuck outta here Nike you scumbags.

it’s because people make noise about one and not the other. Few people really give a shit about Chinese sweat shops or labor camps.
 

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This is what kills me about the limp dick virtue signaling from corporations.

They are all for getting rid of (an admittedly offensive) team name and logo in order to escape the frothing mobs out looking for social justice....but are complete cool with their decades of child labor and sweatshops that have been used to make their products at a profit margin they deem worthy.

Fuck outta here Nike you scumbags.
the mob will come for them don’t worry
 

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2020 really is the year of disaster. I used to have a Minnesota Vikings cap while my brother rocked a Washington Redskins cap in the '90s when we were teenagers, Starter was the shit back then.
 
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What’s crazy is they just spent all that money protecting the redskin trademark all the way to the Supreme Court. Which is cool bc you now you can trademark any offensive or vulgar word